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It seems like a lot of people on here are saying that 1GB is all we "needed" right now. Like Apple made this executive decision with end-user experience strictly under consideration when it was more likely financial in nature. Is the iPhone 6 and 6+ usable? Of course. Is it the best phone out there in our opinions? Of course, that's why we bought one. Even the best things out there have flaws, however.

I don't think someone here, the choice given, would vote for 1 Gb.

That's quite different from saying that the iPhone 6+ with 1 Gb is good only for sms and phone call like someone is absurdly writing.
 
i get this ram crunch while playing music, i randomly get this disturbing lag for a millisecond crack/pop sound while loading websites on safari..:mad:
also happens randomly when opening apps when the music is playing.
 
I have my brothers old i5 side by side next to me , it is far from impossible to "tell" i could tell immediately how much faster the 5s compared to the 5 when switching applications alone, the 6 is even faster in that regard

And if your 6 Plus is reloading constantly and cant even hold 2 apps open with Safari up like you claim, then clearly there is something wrong with your device as im able to have a few tabs and apps open without any reload

Speed is relative to multi tasking, and the 6 blows away the 5, with going back to apps that are "frozen" seconds faster then th 5 can, with also holding about same amount of apps open aswell

Your 6 Plus performing worse then the 5 and having unresponsive screen issues = defective device on your end as my 6 Plus does not exude any of that behavior

Im very technoligically inclined and can tell when there is frame drop, etc, bottleneck somewhere, etc, and my 6 Plus runs great

Again, I'm not talking about speed. Merely app and browser tab reloading. I said two browser tabs and one app, in my case Ebay & Amazon. For an hour or so I would switch between the Amazon app and the two browser tabs. All three would reload upon arriving back. Then I swapped between the Ebay app and the two browser tabs, again all three reloaded each time. When having a search keyed into Amazon/Ebay and having it reload each time, that's extremely frustrating. We can argue that having a browser tab reload is small fish in comparison.

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I don't think someone here, the choice given, would vote for 1 Gb.

That's quite different from saying that the iPhone 6+ with 1 Gb is good only for sms and phone call like someone is absurdly writing.

I was of course exaggerating my point, but a 5.5" 'phablet' which is less capable a web browsing device than a two year old 4" iPhone 5 is pretty disastrous. I'm amazed that so few 6+ owners notice these issues and I can only assume that they save heavy browsing and research for their laptops. Failing to expose limitations in your own usage pattern does not mean that the limitations don't exist. My sole beef here is that the 6+ reloads apps and browser tabs MUCH more readily than the iPhone 5. Surely nobody can defend that??
 
There is nothing to defend when someone else doesn't experience what you are experiencing. I just tried browser, eBay and Amazon apps. No issues what so ever between them. You see it as defending, I'm just not experiencing the issues you keep on repeating at all.
 
I claim it, and I use my 6+ for more than just SMS and calls. God, get over yourself, man.

My 6+ performs great, but just because yours doesn't isn't a reason to try and belittle those of use with a perfectly functioning device by saying we don't use it enough, so we can't make claims about its functionality.

All I'm saying is that the 1GB of RAM is obviously fine for your own usage pattern and yet you say that I'm talking BS because it isn't fine for my usage pattern. How can you say that? Do you honestly think that someone would come on here and 'whine' about a problem that isn't occurring? How come a 32bit 4" iPhone 5 gets the same amount of RAM as a 64bit iPhone 6 equipped with a 5.5" high resolution screen with scaling requirements? Can you honestly not see how the latter would need more RAM? I see the results because I have come from an iPhone 5 to a 6+. I'm speaking from lengthy hands on experience with the very devices I speak of. To claim that I'm being a drama queen, talking BS, or have a defective device (lol) because I run into problems caused solely by a lack of hardware provision on Apple's part is ridiculous.

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There is nothing to defend when someone else doesn't experience what you are experiencing. I just tried browser, eBay and Amazon apps. No issues what so ever between them. You see it as defending, I'm just not experiencing the issues you keep on repeating at all.

You opened up a search in the Ebay app, and had two browser tabs open? You spent a good five mins in each and then swapped around? No reloading whatsoever?
Apple must have given me 500Mb of RAM by mistake then...
 
Yes I was searching in both eBay and Amazon apps. And made certain I had heavy page loads up as well in Safari. But I wasn't honest as I also had mail open with 9 IMAP accounts configured and tapatalk. As I said no issue.

And to be honest compared to my daily usage that is actually light use. Normally I would also have Microsoft office open, my accounts website to create my invoices. And normally I have piwik running for live stats and do a bit of quizup in between amongst many other things.

As I develop for these and other devices I'm not one to manage the memory myself as the OS is quite capable of it.

Look it is very simple, I and I am convinced others as well, fully believe what you are experiencing. Where I do not agree is that it is worse than the iPhone 5S or any other predecessor for that fact, nor that it is rubbish and unusable or whatever words were used to describe it.

Either there is some serious communication issue regarding what it is you mean, or I would suggest there is either an issue with your phone or perhaps network connection.
 
I have to agree with sunking101, this happens to me fairly often.
Just like now, i was now on safari browsing on tumblr looking at pictures, when trying to switch to tabs it immeditialy reloaded all the pages.
I have 5 tabs open 3 of them are tumblr, and the other one is macforum and telegraaf, they all reloaded and i could start over again..

Meanwhile listening to music and surfing on safari i get this (randomly) pop/crack sound for a millisecond when loading webpages or opening apps.
This is my second Iphone 6 and the first had the same issue at the moment i don't want to play a exchange game for now which could lead me into a more unusable phone.
And two of my friends had the same issue, but they never listen to music so they could never know of.

I had a hard time trying to pinning this issue down by reset as new, updating and trying it all over again.
But nonetheless i'm still unsure if this is a software of a hardware defect.
This never happenend on my Iphone 5 and 5+..
I'm not sure how the people are using their phones, but me as a high consumer i do a lot of things on my phone.
And i really do have a keen eyes when something is not working out how it should be.
 
Aha dan moet je wel even een andere krant lezen :p

Geenstijl.:p

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I have to agree with sunking101, this happens to me fairly often.
Just like now, i was now on safari browsing on tumblr looking at pictures, when trying to switch to tabs it immeditialy reloaded all the pages.
I have 5 tabs open 3 of them are tumblr, and the other one is macforum and telegraaf, they all reloaded and i could start over again..

Meanwhile listening to music and surfing on safari i get this (randomly) pop/crack sound for a millisecond when loading webpages or opening apps.
This is my second Iphone 6 and the first had the same issue at the moment i don't want to play a exchange game for now which could lead me into a more unusable phone.
And two of my friends had the same issue, but they never listen to music so they could never know of.

I had a hard time trying to pinning this issue down by reset as new, updating and trying it all over again.
But nonetheless i'm still unsure if this is a software of a hardware defect.
This never happenend on my Iphone 5 and 5+..
I'm not sure how the people are using their phones, but me as a high consumer i do a lot of things on my phone.
And i really do have a keen eyes when something is not working out how it should be.


Came back and turned my device on and openend safari and it reloaded all my tabs..:mad::D Oh maii.
 
i get this ram crunch while playing music, i randomly get this disturbing lag for a millisecond crack/pop sound while loading websites on safari..:mad:
also happens randomly when opening apps when the music is playing.

this happens on my ipad air 8.1.2 too

usually playing lullaby music for my trying to get to sleep baby while browsing the web
 
this happens on my ipad air 8.1.2 too

usually playing lullaby music for my trying to get to sleep baby while browsing the web


Correct, when you are loading webpages or opening apps you can notice the crack/pop sound especially more while playing the lullaby music or quiet songs.
Yeah, this is quite annoying since it will interrupt your song for a millisecond so you will not have a good music experience..
 
Is that with songs streaming from iTunes Match or already downloaded?

I'm honest and can't say I browse and listen to music on my phone often. However I do listen to music and run Waze or Apple Maps a lot and don't get it during that.
 
Is that with songs streaming from iTunes Match or already downloaded?

I'm honest and can't say I browse and listen to music on my phone often. However I do listen to music and run Waze or Apple Maps a lot and don't get it during that.

The song are already downloaded and are located in my stock music app.
Aslong if i'm on safari loading tabs or openening apps it happens randomly, it seems the phone has issue's while loading?

I don't have it on waze/tomtom or google maps either.:)
 
The song are already downloaded and are located in my stock music app.
Aslong if i'm on safari loading tabs or openening apps it happens randomly, it seems the phone has issue's while loading?

I don't have it on waze/tomtom or google maps either.:)

This was happening to me real occasionally while driving and listening to an audiobook with google maps running. iPhone 6+ here
 
This was happening to me real occasionally while driving and listening to an audiobook with google maps running. iPhone 6+ here

Yeah same issue.
Aslong as the phone is trying to load, since you have the google maps + audiobook running in the background.
I only use google maps to schedule a route fast, i use TomTom to navigate. But then i have no music on.
But it's the same issue like when i'm on safari loading websites with the music playing.
I do not get it when i leave the phone alone with the music on. How odd.. ;\
 
Yeah same issue.
Aslong as the phone is trying to load, since you have the google maps + audiobook running in the background.
I only use google maps to schedule a route fast, i use TomTom to navigate. But then i have no music on.
But it's the same issue like when i'm on safari loading websites with the music playing.
I do not get it when i leave the phone alone with the music on. How odd.. ;\

I'm totally sure that if this is truly a bug that Apple will fix it eventually, but my concern is for the future of the device, especially with those prior "split screen" 2app multitasking rumors and the usefulness it may have on the larger 6+ screen. I can't upgrade every year, most people can't, so when iOS 9 comes out with the 6S+ with 2GB ram and Apple makes that required to split screen , imma be angry. lol Apple's goal shouldn't be to get you to rush you to upgrade every year and spend thousands because your contract won't allow for a subsidized upgrade, it should be to get you to stick with Apple when you upgrade every 2 years because that is what the vast majority of Americans do.
 
This is sad. I was using Mercury browser, went to take pictures of my Christmas tree and then went back and all my tabs got purged.

JUST FROM USING THE CAMERA

"Hurr 1gb of ram is enough"

Yeah if you don't ******* use your phone.
 
Thats totally wrong, the 6 and 6 plus are so far ahead of the 4S in performance and modern day support and architecture, the 6 plus and 6 will never essentially slow down like the 4S does now, long long gone are the days of old slow cortex A9 cores , we literally have laptop like cores in our device now

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I don't know whats more funny the fact you said "the 6 and 6+ will never essentially slow down" or when you put words in my mouth talking about slow downs in the first place. I said tab and app reloading which is ALREADY showing vast improvements with more RAM in the Air 2. Nevermind the future, RAM's effects (or lack thereof) are already here and very much evident.

But speaking of performance as far as speed goes you say "we literally have laptop like cores", you are living in your own world if you think the processing power of the iPhone 6 and 6+ will be everlasting. I'd place a large bet that the iPhone 6's performance will be heavily degraded by iOS 11 and 12 just like every single iOS device thats ever came before it. Actually just like ANY computer system that receives updates to its OS be it OS X, Windows, Android, etc etc.
 
I have to agree with sunking101, this happens to me fairly often.
Just like now, i was now on safari browsing on tumblr looking at pictures, when trying to switch to tabs it immeditialy reloaded all the pages.
I have 5 tabs open 3 of them are tumblr, and the other one is macforum and telegraaf, they all reloaded and i could start over again..

Meanwhile listening to music and surfing on safari i get this (randomly) pop/crack sound for a millisecond when loading webpages or opening apps.
This is my second Iphone 6 and the first had the same issue at the moment i don't want to play a exchange game for now which could lead me into a more unusable phone.
And two of my friends had the same issue, but they never listen to music so they could never know of.

I had a hard time trying to pinning this issue down by reset as new, updating and trying it all over again.
But nonetheless i'm still unsure if this is a software of a hardware defect.
This never happenend on my Iphone 5 and 5+..
I'm not sure how the people are using their phones, but me as a high consumer i do a lot of things on my phone.
And i really do have a keen eyes when something is not working out how it should be.

5 tabs opened, three of them full of high resolution pictures.... Speaking about wrong expectations :rolleyes:
 
I have to agree with sunking101, this happens to me fairly often.
Just like now, i was now on safari browsing on tumblr looking at pictures, when trying to switch to tabs it immeditialy reloaded all the pages.
I have 5 tabs open 3 of them are tumblr, and the other one is macforum and telegraaf, they all reloaded and i could start over again..

Meanwhile listening to music and surfing on safari i get this (randomly) pop/crack sound for a millisecond when loading webpages or opening apps.
This is my second Iphone 6 and the first had the same issue at the moment i don't want to play a exchange game for now which could lead me into a more unusable phone.
And two of my friends had the same issue, but they never listen to music so they could never know of.

I had a hard time trying to pinning this issue down by reset as new, updating and trying it all over again.
But nonetheless i'm still unsure if this is a software of a hardware defect.
This never happenend on my Iphone 5 and 5+..
I'm not sure how the people are using their phones, but me as a high consumer i do a lot of things on my phone.
And i really do have a keen eyes when something is not working out how it should be.
I have a similar usage pattern to you and Sunking and have also had problems with my 128Gb 6 Plus and sometimes on my iPad Mini. It was annoying trying to research potential Christmas gifts. I also had both devices not register screen touches. I never had this problem before on IPad mini. I guess there was a problem with one of the iOS updates? I'm a complete ignoramus when it comes to technology so there's no way for me to troubleshoot this on my own. My husband would have to do it, but when I try to show him what's going on, of course the phone and IPad work fine. Always. Technology hates me.

I have it a lot on the IPhone 6Plus, the screen freezing or not registering my touches that is, or lagging before it recognizes a touch. I did uninstall the FaceBook app from both devices since that was extremely buggy and was draining the battery on both devices. I have more freezes and crashes on the iPhone 6Plus than on the mini. It's all not a constant horrible thing, mind you. It just happens often enough that I notice and wonder what happened to Apple quality, since things used to be buttery smooth (ack, hate that term) a year or so ago. Though yeah, Safari tabs reloading always was a pain.

I can't tell you if the 6plus works better or worse than my old 5s because the 5s was too small for me to use as anything other than a text device, iPod and phone, camera and alarm clock. I rarely did more than that on it. For what I used it for, it worked well.

I'm afraid that's all I can contribute to the discussion--the fact that I'm having some problems. I have no explanation and I probably am not even using the correct terminology, though I did read this thread very carefully and am trying to make an effort.
 
I was of course exaggerating my point, but a 5.5" 'phablet' which is less capable a web browsing device than a two year old 4" iPhone 5 is pretty disastrous. I'm amazed that so few 6+ owners notice these issues and I can only assume that they save heavy browsing and research for their laptops. Failing to expose limitations in your own usage pattern does not mean that the limitations don't exist. My sole beef here is that the 6+ reloads apps and browser tabs MUCH more readily than the iPhone 5. Surely nobody can defend that??

You're not alone, I also find my new 6 plus reloads apps and pages MUCH more than my 5 did. I got it replaced once, but no difference. I can only assume that the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 didn't use as much RAM as the 6 Plus with iOS 8. Maybe it's something else about the way iOS 8 works rather than RAM, but the end result is that my 6 Plus is inferior to my two year old 5 in terms of useability. Other than the screen size and battery life, it feels like a downgrade.
 
I must admit I see a lot of "lag" - not so smooth animations on my 6+. I previously had an 5s and everything was smooth.
I also see a lot of UI bug which I had on iOS 8.0 and 8.1 on 5s, however 99% of them were resolved in 8.1.1 update. On 6+ I see them again (status bar overlaying, video zooms weirdly when changing rotation and so on). But lag bothers me a lot more.
I didn't do any restore since it was brand new when I got it.
 
You're not alone, I also find my new 6 plus reloads apps and pages MUCH more than my 5 did. I got it replaced once, but no difference. I can only assume that the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 didn't use as much RAM as the 6 Plus with iOS 8. Maybe it's something else about the way iOS 8 works rather than RAM, but the end result is that my 6 Plus is inferior to my two year old 5 in terms of useability. Other than the screen size and battery life, it feels like a downgrade.

Totally agree. The bigger screen and better battery life don't compensate for greatly reduced core functionality, not for me anyway. It feels like I bought a pauper version and that I skimped out on RAM. I guess Apple just didn't test this device, in much the same way that they evidently don't test new versions of iOS. It's the consumer who misses out though, Apple still get their money but some of us notice the fact we've been sold inferior devices. This isn't about Android v iOS, or Samsung v Apple, it's about the iPhone 5 v the iPhone 6+. We get a bigger screen, bigger battery, and what feels like 250-500Mb of RAM compared to the 1GB in the iPhone 5.
 
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In terms of bugs/ stutters/app crashes my 6 plus is more stable than my 5S was. On the 5S I had a lot of springboard reboots and app crashes.
 
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