Are they any Radeon Pro 460 benchmarks out yet?

[viljamip]

@fs454: Would be cool if you could do a quick Cinebench R15 GPU. Thanks!

Just got 85.44fps in Cinebench R15 OpenGL. So performance sits below the 965m?

He did.

 

[koyoot]

would love to hear / see fps in overwatch!

Desktop RX 460 in 1080p Ultra preset averages 70 FPS with 60 FPS minimum. Radeon Pro 460 may have up to 10% lower scores.

 

[Wildkraut]

He did.

Ohhh sorry I overseen it! Thx...

 

[fs454]

Desktop RX 460 in 1080p Ultra preset averages 70 FPS with 60 FPS minimum. Radeon Pro 460 may have up to 10% lower scores.

That's actually pretty awesome. Feasibly could run it at a resolution closer to native and drop a few settings, huh? I'm going to try Battlefield 1 as soon as I have W10 installed. Overwatch I don't have yet but am waiting on the moment to buy it.

 

[godboy]

That's actually pretty awesome. Feasibly could run it at a resolution closer to native and drop a few settings, huh? I'm going to try Battlefield 1 as soon as I have W10 installed. Overwatch I don't have yet but am waiting on the moment to buy it.

This is a great moment

If anything Battlefield 1 is probably more demanding, standing by to hear results!

 

[makingmusic]

Geekbench CPU:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/1043648

Geekbench Compute OpenCL:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/228001
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Anytime! I know the 460 for me was the last bastion of mystery with this release and real-world video editing performance on this thing is going to determine whether I keep it or it goes back. I'm coming from a Late 2013 2.3ghz/16GB/750M 2GB MBP that I use heavily - my only issue right now is I can't plug a single one of the hundreds of drives here at the office in to test Premiere and FCPX. Gotta hit the Apple Store for some dongles, I guess.


Additionally, love the keyboard - generally dislike the trackpad. I guess I'm late to the game but I think the traditional click on the Late 2013 is so much faster and more tactile than the Force Touch versions that feel like they can't keep up. Do appreciate the size though. The new "Default for Display" is "looks like 1680x1050" on the 15 incher, now, too.
[doublepost=1479146713][/doublepost]Anything else? I'm off to the Apple Store to grab some dongles, but I'll be back and willing to run more tests. What are we thinking here, better or worse than expected for the 460?

My older rMBP is coming out 3834/14321 - what am I missing?

 

[jackoatmon]

I've never actually used it since 10.0.0 and my whole production house is on Premiere - but I'm fascinated by a lot of the research I've been doing and experience I've been seeing people have with it -- and how optimized it all seems to be is making me want to switch and get the rest of our guys to as well. We're all open to it, but used to the premiere workflow - especially with having to send things out for color and sound work all the time.

Just one lowly opinion, but FCPX is incredible. The GPU-offloading was what drew me in originally, and the continual improvements Apple has made to the UI has kept me there. It just makes better use of your resources. You can spend thousands getting a faster machine, or just switch to a program that knows how your GPU works.

 

[Outrigger]

Attached.
[doublepost=1479150945][/doublepost]Also, can confirm that the TB3 to TB2 adapter does NOT drive DisplayPort at all. Display is not recognized. Expected, but wanted to confirm.

by that theory, going from laptop to a thunderbolt drive via TB3 to TB2 adatper and going from the drive to a display via a displayport will not drive a monitor sitting at the end of the chain correct?

 

[koyoot]

That's actually pretty awesome. Feasibly could run it at a resolution closer to native and drop a few settings, huh? I'm going to try Battlefield 1 as soon as I have W10 installed. Overwatch I don't have yet but am waiting on the moment to buy it.

Here is RX 460 score for comparison.

And Overwatch scores:

Unfortunately it is very Nvidia optimized title.

 

[fs454]

Just one lowly opinion, but FCPX is incredible. The GPU-offloading was what drew me in originally, and the continual improvements Apple has made to the UI has kept me there. It just makes better use of your resources. You can spend thousands getting a faster machine, or just switch to a program that knows how your GPU works.

Yeah, I'm very down for it so I just need to see how I can adapt to it and continue to be compatible with existing workflows. I've got a smaller music video that I'm planning on test driving FCPX with this week.
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by that theory, going from laptop to a thunderbolt drive via TB3 to TB2 adatper and going from the drive to a display via a displayport will not drive a monitor sitting at the end of the chain correct?

Correct - there's no DisplayPort functionality at all coming out of the Thunderbolt 3 side of things as far as I can see. The monitor (P2715Q) doesn't detect a signal. The DP functionality is in the USB-C side.

DisplayPort is supported natively using a DisplayPort to USB-C cable, which I don't have on hand yet. Hoping I'll get the same 4K@60Hz as I do on my Late 2013 via that cable.

 

[jackoatmon]

Yeah, I'm very down for it so I just need to see how I can adapt to it and continue to be compatible with existing workflows. I've got a smaller music video that I'm planning on test driving FCPX with this week.

That's how I did it. I just picked one project that had a looser deadline on it, and forced myself through on FCPX. By then end I was like, **** it, I'm uninstalling Premiere and Avid (figuratively of course – Premiere lasted on my machine for another year as a failsafe, but I never opened it!).
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Also, can confirm that the TB3 to TB2 adapter does NOT drive DisplayPort at all. Display is not recognized. Expected, but wanted to confirm.

By any off chance are you in a position to try Target Display to a Thunderbolt non-retina iMac or such?

I'm deeply curious as to whether I can use my trusty 2011 27" as a secondary display over TB3->TB adapter.

 

[fs454]

That's how I did it. I just picked one project that had a looser deadline on it, and forced myself through on FCPX. By then end I was like, **** it, I'm uninstalling Premiere and Avid (figuratively of course – Premiere lasted on my machine for another year as a failsafe, but I never opened it!).

That's how I did it. I just picked one project that had a looser deadline on it, and forced myself through on FCPX. By then end I was like, **** it, I'm uninstalling Premiere and Avid (figuratively of course – Premiere lasted on my machine for another year as a failsafe, but I never opened it!).
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By any off chance are you in a position to try Target Display to a Thunderbolt non-retina iMac or such?

I'm deeply curious as to whether I can use my trusty 2011 27" as a secondary display over TB3->TB adapter.

Think so, we have a Late 2013 iMac 27" here - give me a beat.

 

[modalsaliency]

If anyone could run a quick FPS test in GuildWars2 (the Windows client), I'd be grateful.

 

[motime]

LOL the nvidia cards really smash these AMD cards when it comes to gaming. Wow I didn't think it would be that big of a difference.

 

[Yoshimura]

Geekbench Compute OpenCL:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/228001

This is for the 530. Please run it for the Pro 460.

 

[koyoot]

LOL the nvidia cards really smash these AMD cards when it comes to gaming. Wow I didn't think it would be that big of a difference.

In games that are optimized for Nvidia hardware - yes, they are outperforming AMD GPUs...

In games where you have only horsepower whats matters - its a tie, like in Vulkan and DX12 titles.

 

[Xombie11]

Also, can confirm that the TB3 to TB2 adapter does NOT drive DisplayPort at all. Display is not recognized. Expected, but wanted to confirm.

Wait -- what does this mean? I have a 34" widescreen display (3440 x 1440) with a DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort cable that I plug into my 2014 Macbook Air's thunderbolt (2?) port. I was planning to buy a TB3 to TB2 adapter so I can plug this Mini Display port cable into my new MBP's USBC/TB3 port. Will this not work like I'm expecting? Do I need to use HDMI instead? Does HDMI even support that resolution?

 

[fs454]

That's how I did it. I just picked one project that had a looser deadline on it, and forced myself through on FCPX. By then end I was like, **** it, I'm uninstalling Premiere and Avid (figuratively of course – Premiere lasted on my machine for another year as a failsafe, but I never opened it!).
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By any off chance are you in a position to try Target Display to a Thunderbolt non-retina iMac or such?

I'm deeply curious as to whether I can use my trusty 2011 27" as a secondary display over TB3->TB adapter.

Target Display mode works through the TB3-TB2 adapter to a 27" iMac, no issues!
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Wait -- what does this mean? I have a 34" widescreen display (3440 x 1440) with a DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort cable that I plug into my 2014 Macbook Air's thunderbolt (2?) port. I was planning to buy a TB3 to TB2 adapter so I can plug this Mini Display port cable into my new MBP's USBC/TB3 port. Will this not work like I'm expecting? Do I need to use HDMI instead? Does HDMI even support that resolution?

TB3-TB2 adapter only works for Thunderbolt displays, not Mini DisplayPort. So Apple's TB display or as I've tested a few minutes ago, Target Display mode on Thunderbolt-equipped non-retina iMacs. TB3 to TB2 adapter with a Mini DisplayPort monitor plugged in unfortunately does nothing. They should be more clear with this as it's a pretty annoying caveat that breaks the chain of functionality that everyone's been used to with Thunderbolt for years.

What you'll need is this, a native USB-C to DisplayPort cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12908

Should work natively with that cable. HDMI only supports 3840x2160@30hz, I'm not sure what specific HDMI refresh rates are supported at the ultra wide 34" res, but I'm pretty sure the USB-C to DP will do the trick.
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This is for the 530. Please run it for the Pro 460.

Lol, my bad:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/228591

 

[Xombie11]

TB3-TB2 adapter only works for Thunderbolt displays, not Mini DisplayPort. So Apple's TB display or as I've tested a few minutes ago, Target Display mode on Thunderbolt-equipped non-retina iMacs. TB3 to TB2 adapter with a Mini DisplayPort monitor plugged in unfortunately does nothing. They should be more clear with this as it's a pretty annoying caveat that breaks the chain of functionality that everyone's been used to with Thunderbolt for years.

What you'll need is this, a native USB-C to DisplayPort cable:
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12908

Should work natively with that cable. HDMI only supports 3840x2160@30hz, I'm not sure what specific HDMI refresh rates are supported at the ultra wide 34" res, but I'm pretty sure the USB-C to DP will do the trick.

Very helpful, thank you!

 

[jackoatmon]

I think we can all agree that @fs454 is the man/woman and has won the internet for today.

 

[Davinci4]

i'm really wondering which mac computer is should get.. i'm a avid editor and davinci resolve color grader that works with 4k workflows and i like to know if the new macbook pro is really that much better than the 2015 (maxed out) and if it's even better than the 27 inch imac.

 

[jjjoseph]

i'm really wondering which mac computer is should get.. i'm a avid editor and davinci resolve color grader that works with 4k workflows and i like to know if the new macbook pro is really that much better than the 2015 (maxed out) and if it's even better than the 27 inch imac.

Your a 4k Color Grader and want to work on a MacBook Pro? I have a Resolve Full Panel, Cubix with 3 GTX 980 ti, and I crash on 4k all the time.. the 460 is slower than an Mobile GTX 750?
Not sure where you are getting the idea you can grade 4k.

 

[viljamip]

i'm really wondering which mac computer is should get.. i'm a avid editor and davinci resolve color grader that works with 4k workflows and i like to know if the new macbook pro is really that much better than the 2015 (maxed out) and if it's even better than the 27 inch imac.

It is significantly slower than a similarly priced maxed out iMac.

 

[Davinci4]

Your a 4k Color Grader and want to work on a MacBook Pro? I have a Resolve Full Panel, Cubix with 3 GTX 980 ti, and I crash on 4k all the time.. the 460 is slower than an Mobile GTX 750?
Not sure where you are getting the idea you can grade 4k.

haha sorry you're right but i didn't meant colorgrading 4k just the editing in 4k. normally i work on a imac at work but i want to work from home as well so thats why i'm looking for a macbook pro or just buy an imac since the price difference is not that much..
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It is significantly slower than a similarly priced maxed out iMac.

thanks!

 

[Yoshimura]

Lol, my bad:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/228591

Thanks!

So 19,000 for iGPU vs 58,500 for the Pro 460!

Can't wait to see the Pro 450 Benchmark...