Are you buying the new 16" MBP?

[chucker23n1]

If they offer a 14-inch option that has an H-series CPU or at least 32 GB RAM, I might actually take a slightly smaller size this time.

Other than that, they need to fix the keyboard. Everything else is kind of secondary. I hope the Touch Bar gets haptics; I figure it'll become a lot more useful that way.

 

[howareyoukk]

Before the announcement of apple arcade, I read a rumour somewhere where it said apple was gonna release a 16 inch laptop for gamers and graphics designers. Now that arcade has been revealed and will be here fall this year, it does make sense that apple will release a 16 inch laptop this year in order to complement their gaming service, which was pointed out by the rumour . Everything fits nicely if you think about it this way.

 

[maflynn]

Will it have a T2?

I think apple will be using their Tx family of chips in all of their macs from now on. I foresee a time, that macOS will require the existence of that chip to boot up. We're not there yet but its my opinion that apple is moving in that direction.

As for the keyboard, it seems apple is sticking with the butterfly keyboard, though we may see a 4th generation that may be more reliable but who knows.

 

[Falhófnir]

It's always speculation until Apple announce it. I don't understand why it would be 16" if there is no redesign, is it just going to be a new machine to fix all the issues. These are questions i'm sure everyone have, time will tell what we will see but i would like to see a better keyboard at least.

Does it mean that they will also update the other Macbook's? what about new Air that has the same keyboard?

Of course it is, but I'm just saying we have a lot of conflicting information blurring the picture. It's not like the iPhone where by now we can reasonably say, yeah this is what we're getting in September as so many corroborating leaks have pointed to the same thing. If Apple were betting the farm on the gen 3 keyboard actually holding up long enough for them to squeak through to the 2020 redesign without doing anything, they might simply not have the time or resources to completely re-engineer the computer. I would like to think they know they have to do something and soonish, but with their combined engineering team that works on all hardware, likely tied up with their priority the iPhone, plus the new Mac Pro, do they have enough spare resources to do anything about it? And particularly if they have to tackle the other MacBook models in a reasonable timeframe as well.

 

[Salty Pirate]

Hell yes.

 

[xxray]

Nope, just got a really good deal on a 2018 15" MBP and I'm very happy.

 

[ascender]

If the lineup changes to a 14" and a 16" as has-been rumoured, just getting the larger one might not be a done deal, especially if the smaller one launches with a decent CPU and memory options.

 

[howareyoukk]

Nope, just got a really good deal on a 2018 15" MBP and I'm very happy.

Aren’t u the lucky 1

 

[leman]

If the lineup changes to a 14" and a 16" as has-been rumoured, just getting the larger one might not be a done deal, especially if the smaller one launches with a decent CPU and memory options.

If Apple reduces the bezels on the current models, they will get exactly 14" and 16" screens without changing the chassis dimensions. I seriously doubt that they will make the laptops physically bigger. It would be a very non-Apple thing to do.

 

[Falhófnir]

If Apple reduces the bezels on the current models, they will get exactly 14" and 16" screens without changing the chassis dimensions. I seriously doubt that they will make the laptops physically bigger. It would be a very non-Apple thing to do.

A lot of the competition on the windows side are now including dGPUs in their 13" class machines, so I guess it's really down to whether intel's new iGPUs actually perform in the real world as well as they say they will on paper, and/ or how long ARM chips (with proven ridiculously good iGPUs) take to roll out to the MBP lineup (could still be several years away if they start with the MacBook and MBA in 2020). If Apple are nervous over getting stuck with underperforming graphics, I could see them making a somewhat larger 14" Pro with dedicated graphics, and maybe keeping the nTB pro as the 13" MacBook Pro with integrated going forward.

 

[AnotherSoftwareEngineer]

Definitely intrigued, waiting to see specs and what the keyboard situation is.

T2 and TouchBar have been totally fine for me. And my 2018 keyboard has been fine too, but I'd be nervous about buying another keyboard lottery ticket.

 

[jerryk]

Fair point, a keyboard fix and thermals. Maybe a bezel reduction as well. But why change the screen size if they are not changing the design?

16" is noticeably bigger in usage, and is the new size category for the upper end of portable, yet powerful, top-end laptops. Above 16 inches you move to gaming/workstation dedicated laptop with more powerful GPUs, power supplies, cooling, etc. but with the weight and bulk that make them more "transportable" than "portable"
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I would also include repairability in the wishlist.

Most repairs in the current MacBook Pro require replacing half the laptop. After the AppleCare runs out (after the third year), the MacBook Pro is cost prohibitive to repair.

A larger screen is useless to me if I'm forced to spend large amounts of money for even the simplest repair after three years. When I purchase a computer, I want to keep it for at least six years.

I agree with your points, but I don't expect Apple to move away from the current design with large modules, soldered in memory and drives, and top case replacements for battery, keyboard repairs. The industry in general moving to more soldered in parts for reliability and standardization.

 

[Falhófnir]

16" is noticeably bigger in usage, and is the new size category for the upper end of portable, yet powerful, top-end laptops. Above 16 inches you move to gaming/workstation dedicated laptop with more powerful GPUs, power supplies, cooling, etc. but with the weight and bulk that make them more "transportable" than "portable"

17" machines seem to be having a bit of a renaissance now its possible to make them considerably smaller and lighter than it was before, in one of her videos Lisa Gade noted a lot of new 17" computers at CES this year competing around what was previously 15" territory. I think this is Apple largely following an overall trend to more screen without more size/ weight, which is good as they've been sorely lacking in larger options until now (no 17" model since 2011 and not even a consumer focused 15").

 

[patent10021]

No. 2019 will see a new 16" MBP that will have thinner bezels and more customizable options. You will see.

 

[MacNut]

No. 2019 will see a new 16" MBP that will have thinner bezels and more customizable options. You will see.

And it will probably fit in a manilla envelope, need to be kept in a freezer to stay cool and will be so light it will float on air.

 

[nStyle]

Not interested in current MBPs. I am not interested in any laptop on the market currently and I've had mine since 2013. I deal with the speed because I just can't stand the new MBPs. I want a 15" but I refuse to buy something I will never use and is just wasting space (the touch bar). Not holding my breath for the new one to ditch it but if it does, it will most likely be my next laptop.

I know this ain't changing either, but I also despise the size of the newer touchpads.

 

[booksbooks]

I have a good feeling about this next piece of hardware. I think it's going to be the MBP everyone has been waiting for with all the fixes. I don't think this is speculation since there are a couple of reliable sources. Not to mention, Apple has received so much sh_t regarding performance of late I think this will be a turning point. This 16" is going to happen. Same with new Mac Pros.

Not happening.

 

[ascender]

If Apple reduces the bezels on the current models, they will get exactly 14" and 16" screens without changing the chassis dimensions. I seriously doubt that they will make the laptops physically bigger. It would be a very non-Apple thing to do.

That's the working assumption, but I wonder if its as easy as that if they plan on putting FaceID in there?

 

[leman]

That's the working assumption, but I wonder if its as easy as that if they plan on putting FaceID in there?

For FaceID, they would have to make the camera module much thinner. Or they could do like other vendors do and integrate the camera into the laptop chassis (aka. nose hair cam). I hope they won't At any rate, I wouldn't hold my breath for FaceID on laptop any time soon.

 

[Fishrrman]

I'm amazed that people would commit themselves to buy something that doesn't exist yet (except in speculation) and of which we have no idea regarding the particulars.

Defines for all in this forum what a "fanbois" is...

 

[pshufd]

I'm amazed that people would commit themselves to buy something that doesn't exist yet (except in speculation) and of which we have no idea regarding the particulars.

Defines for all in this forum what a "fanbois" is...

It's speculative. I would say yes but I'd want to wait six months to see how the reliability is first. I'm pondering a new iMac but it just came out and I'd like to see what, if any, problems people find with it. It's a lot easier just buying another 2015 MacBook Pro because I know the reliability of that model. And it's also a lot cheaper. As far as performance goes, I just use two of them and split the tasks.

 

[jetjaguar]

If I can hold out that long. Need a computer bad.

 

[ascender]

For FaceID, they would have to make the camera module much thinner. Or they could do like other vendors do and integrate the camera into the laptop chassis (aka. nose hair cam). I hope they won't At any rate, I wouldn't hold my breath for FaceID on laptop any time soon.

If Apple don’t put faceid in to a redesigned MBP then that’s all the proof you need that the Mac is going to remain a second class citizen to the iPad for the foreseeable future.

 

[leman]

If Apple don’t put faceid in to a redesigned MBP then that’s all the proof you need that the Mac is going to remain a second class citizen to the iPad for the foreseeable future.

That is a really strange conclusion. Would you prefer them to increase the display thickness to that of an iPad then?

 

[_Kiki_]

16" is noticeably bigger in usage, and is the new size category for the upper end of portable, yet powerful, top-end laptops. Above 16 inches you move to gaming/workstation dedicated laptop with more powerful GPUs, power supplies, cooling, etc. but with the weight and bulk that make them more "transportable" than "portable"
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I agree with your points, but I don't expect Apple to move away from the current design with large modules, soldered in memory and drives, and top case replacements for battery, keyboard repairs. The industry in general moving to more soldered in parts for reliability and standardization.

yes, Apple can solder also the case and remove all screws, will be easier, if something happened during warranty they need replace whole unit, they can save a lot of money on service