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iPhone 12 Are you experiencing an abnormal drop in battery health on your iPhone 12/iPhone 12 pro/ iPhone 12 mini/ iPhone 12 Max?
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For me, the 3hrs is round trip, including travel time and the 1-2hrs for the appt/swap (per Apple store employee).
I’m not arguing with the specifics. My point is if you think it’s a better deal to maximize the longevity of the battery instead of just charging it as needed and replacing it later then you’re not the audience my argument is aimed at.
I’m merely saying that if your circumstances allow you to replace it without too much of a hassle it’s worth not fussing over it for months if not years. I used to constantly obsess over the battery health until I got my 11 Pro. Now I just charge it with the 18W charger and I’m finally at peace.
Sure, of course I get it… and I do understand that the few extra seconds per day to manually managing a better charge optimization is just not worth the hassle or worry for most folks. My point is that there is no longer any need for the manual hassle, fuss, or worry if the process is automated with a shortcut automation plus $10 smart plug… except of course for the one-time initial set-up.
Does flicking Apple’s ‘battery optimization’ on/off somehow cause folks additional hassle/fuss? This basically amounts to the same thing, albeit much more effective for those that don’t require a full 100% charge to get them through the day. Sure seems like a lot of folks are fussing over their degraded 12-series batts…. well, except for the few folks that posted above and are charging <100%.
I couldn’t agree more. And to be honest, not sure running it up to 100% is needed anyway unless you’re maybe on vacation or something. I don’t find it surprising at all that more people are complaining from bad battery health with the increase of fast charging, wireless charging, and especially MagSafe. I can’t thank you enough for sharing your shortcut, the “wait” is a stroke of genius. I took @edhchoe lead and even added another set of wait/execute as a layer of redundancy.
I’m saying the difference in capacity you’d be retaining with and without special care is quite small as long as you can avoid the heat. All the effort regardless of how small it is wouldn’t make it much better. It’s the heat that damages the battery not your charging habits.
All the battery safeguards are built into your iPhone. As long as you’re using a genuine quality charger you’re not doing any damage to your battery. Your iPhone is more than capable of managing the current and voltage based on temperature and other factors by itself.
I don’t think I can make it clearer than this and if flicking a switch is easier for you than you’re free to go with it. My advice is for people like me who are having a tough time flicking that switch.
Yeah, I sort of look at 100% like redline on a car. Sure it’s good to have when you need it, and the car is certainly designed for it…. but, if more often then not, you need to use it to get anywhere…. Perhaps you bought the wrong car?
Happy to hear the shortcut worked for you - my pleasure.
To start with my 12 Pro Max felt like it had stellar battery life, but over the past couple of months it’s struggled. I’d say I’m a heavy user, often playing games on it for hours and with background location features working the battery. I have it on my dash as my sat nav so probably sees some heat from the sun that way. Also it’s only in the last few months that I’ve been using MagSafe chargers as my main charging method (bedside table one all night and desk on and off during the day) I wonder if that might have an affect too? Down to 87% health now, owned since launch day. I wonder if it’ll hit 80% before I get a 13?
Heat is only one of the big wear factors there are many others discussed HERE. But your statement in bold explains our polar opposite view points.
Guess I just believe in science, it sure works for me running 3 previous iOS devices 5-7yrs on original batts.
https://batteryuniversity.com/img/content/DST-cycles-web2.jpg
Good for you science-believer.👏🏻
Unfortunately you’re not so much of a reader as you are a believer.
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Damn, and I thought 88% on my max was bad… Are you noticing a drop in your screen on time?
It’s all in how you take care of them. I got my 7+ 2.5 years ago and it’s at 88%. It was in the mid 90’s and I let my step daughter have it for a month or two and she knocked it down to 88% in that short time. I’ve had it back for probably 9-10 months and it’s still at 88%. The difference between us? I keep it charged. It rarely drops below the 60-70% range. She never charges her phones they are always practically dead. This practice kills a battery.
I had a 7+ too, which my mother is using currently. She does not care how much the phone drain or dies. She charges it from under 20-100% regularly. When I gave her the phone, the battery health was at around 93%. Now it’s at 89%. The phone had its battery replaced quite a while back (it’s a December 2016 phone).
In the meantime, my 12 Pro Max from December 2nd of last year is at 88% health. The phone rarely falls below 20% and has optimized battery charging on, which works overnight when I sleep. My usage habits have remained the same.
The quality of the battery isn’t up to the mark.
It's so frustrating that every time I've reached out to Support, they always have an "oh well, suck it up" tone. As a heavy user on my iPhone Xs, its battery health was still at 93% max capacity when I traded it in for my 12 earlier this year. This 12 I have? Already down to 89% after 7 months and my usage has been a LOT lighter than when I had my Xs since I'm on my Mac and iPad more heavily these days.
Although I find it extremely unfortunate and sad that so many of us are experiencing this issue, it brings me a tad bit of relief that I'm not the only one.
Although I find it extremely unfortunate and sad that so many of us are experiencing this issue, it brings me a tad bit of relief that I'm not the only one.
Apple isn't willing to replace the battery even if I pay for it, which kinda sucks. Their customer service quality has sure gone downhill from before.
On the bright side, it's looking to be a big enough issue to become one of those 'affecting a small percent of users' programs. I sure do hope there's one soon. There seems to be a big discrepancy with the batteries. Some people are reporting they're still at 100% after trashing the phone and then there's us. It might be a case of a bad batch or something, at least I hope so..
I think they get it replaced for free for 2 years if it drops below 80%, so even if it drops after the first year it's still free until the end of second year.
Mine finally dropped to 99% after 7 months. I guess it’s all downhill from here.
Launch iPhone 12 Pro. Charged mostly with 5w USB-A and kept almost exclusively between 40-80% with the aid of Juice Watch app.
Battery health still showing as 100%
Battery health still showing as 100%
I think free replacement is only for the limited warranty or 2 years if you have Apple care+
Ah I think the limited warranty is different in each country. Here it's 2 years.
I accidentally left mine off the charger overnight. In the past, when the battery was ok or even down to 98, 97% I was doing this to try and help the "health". - only losing 1-2% in the past...some nights 10-15% for whatever mind boggling reason.
But this point with 83% health I just don't care I have to keep it charged.
Woke up and it drained 30% just sitting here from 12:15 to 8:20.
Yeah Apple...this is "normal" 😒
This "Find My..." app just constantly runs non-stop, even before getting an Air Tag.
I took some photos, video yesterday briefly for 20-30 min (that other dramatic dip in life mid day Sat.), the drain on the battery in that short period of time is utterly sad.
But this point with 83% health I just don't care I have to keep it charged.
Woke up and it drained 30% just sitting here from 12:15 to 8:20.
Yeah Apple...this is "normal" 😒
This "Find My..." app just constantly runs non-stop, even before getting an Air Tag.
I took some photos, video yesterday briefly for 20-30 min (that other dramatic dip in life mid day Sat.), the drain on the battery in that short period of time is utterly sad.
I was having similar bugs and pretty terrible battery life as well. What I did is turn off find my network under find my iPhone settings, and sure enough, my battery life has increased by 1.5-2 hours.