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Agreed, it's also basically useless when iPhone is mounted on car dash in holder whilst my 8+ unlocks all day long with my fingers. With the X, forced to punch in passcode or take iPhone out of holder and then shove next to face. Also sunlight interferes with success rate. Of course it's also no good in boardroom meetings as I have to pick up the phone in order to lock it. Unlike others, I don't try to use my iPhone when I'm wet or covered in dirt/mud so touchid can fail lol. I "rented" one from Apple over the weekend just to see what the hubbub was about, but I'm glad that Apple at least released the 8+. The Telephoto camera is much better on the X though. The OIS actually makes it usable.
Very interesting points. Thanks for sharing! I never thought about using it while driving in a dash mount. Real world test make all the difference.
 
The guidance of $84-$87B for this quarter shows Apple's confidence. There is no doubt the iPhone X is selling well.
 
I got an 8Plus and an X. Although the X isn’t slow, it’s not as fast as the 8Plus. I can unlock with TouchID before pulling the phone out of my pocket. You’re right though, swiping up after unlocking with FaceID is an extra step that I hope they change.

Try the other way round - swipe up without waiting for anything (the equivalent of pressing TouchID) - Face ID will then authenticate you. Doing it that way round makes for a seamless process unlike 'wait for unlock, then swipe'

That’s not my experience. I pick up phone swipe up and boom it’s open. Don’t wait for the lock to unlock. Just look at phone as you swipe up. Feels like all one function now.

^He gets it
 
What? Are you implying everyone is buying one and returning them right away and word just hasn't gotten out yet?
Huh? What are you talking about? I’m merely asking other factors and not just preorders.
 
Demand does not equal revenue. A lot of demand is plus folks thinking the X will meet their needs. I suspect return rates are also strong.
 
The guidance of $84-$87B for this quarter shows Apple's confidence. There is no doubt the iPhone X is selling well.

The more I think about Apple's forward guidance, the more I think they will blow this out of the water and go into the low 90s.

Last year in the same quarter Apple did 78B. Since then, service revenue has grown exponentially, and mac/iPad sales are also slightly higher. That alone would probably put Apple within that guidance range of 84-87B. Now if they can sell MORE iPhones than last year AND a higher mix of iPhone X....Watch out wall street. If they were able to ramp up production more quickly than usual, and if this year had the same number of weeks in the fiscal quarter, they probably would hit $100B easily.
 
Sounds lukewarm in tone.
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Not really. You can swipe up the second the phone lights up and be in. No need to pause.

It will still be slow overall because of how people got used to Touch ID. My phone is unlocked as it’s coming out of my pocket. Face ID will take another generation to be faster but still won’t beat the convenience of Touch ID.
 
I got an 8Plus and an X. Although the X isn’t slow, it’s not as fast as the 8Plus. I can unlock with TouchID before pulling the phone out of my pocket. You’re right though, swiping up after unlocking with FaceID is an extra step that I hope they change.
You can effectively change it yourself right now. Don’t look wait and swipe up. Just swipe up, Face ID takes off by itself. I just swipe up now and it unlocks. No need to wait for lock image to cycle.

Am now frustrated with my iPad Air 2, having to hit home button. I rather prefer the up swipe gesture now after using its couple days.
 
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I went into the O2 shop today and saw the X in person. As it were. Nobody looking at it. Or in any other phone shops to be honest. Probably because (shock horror) it really doesn't stand out against its peers.

For that reason I can't see it converting Android users because the Samsung 8/Note series give more in features and looks - and for a lot less - than the X. Why would they change?. Pay more for less? But. I can see existing iPhone users buying it because their main draw isn't so much the X itself but the fact it runs iOS and that it's new and looks a lot nicer than the existing line up.

In regards to the exhorbitant price being a drawback - for many this will be batted away with the knowledge that an extra £250 can be absorbed into a 30 month (yes that's two and a half years) instead of the usual 24 month contract.

Bizarre logic perhaps. But if you are determined to overlook that fact as well as ignoring that in a year your £1500 phone will be worth half that - then just having the latest model surpasses the importance of value for money. And it's no good berating people for that. Such ignorance is blissful and often it is a folly to be wise. Like now for example.

For most of us who have bigger life priorities than having a launch day product - whatever the consequences - comparing such behaviour against our own is a futile exercise. All sides are correct in their own way. The obsessive early adopters. The cautious objective types those that can stand back and say "Hang on. £1500 for a ... phone? I'd be better off putting that cash in my wallet and impress my friends by holding up a photograph of a X and pronounce "Hey. Look what I nearly bought!"

So. What was the question again? It's been so long since the start of this waffle ("Tell me about it!"- MacRumors Ed) I've forgotten what the question was.

Ah yes. Massive iPhone X demand since launch".

The answer to that being "Its Apple. It's a new phone. It always has a massive demand. It's not a story".

Er. That's it.

Cheers!

("Gerroff! Again!" - MacRumors Ed)
 
"off the charts"
Hmmm... which chart:

Sales Chart:
X
X
10 X
8 X
6 X
4 X
2 X
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Nov1 Nov31

This chart only goes to 10 sales, and a sale of 14 devices is off the chart.
Apple, could you be more specific instead of Jedi mind tricks?
 
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Except that FaceID is slower than TouchID.
It's not much slower. After using my X for a few days, Face ID has met my expectations. So if it's more secure and allows for a bigger screen without enlarging the device (the Plus models are way too big for my liking), I'll take it.
 
I have the 8Plus and my gf has the X. FaceID isn’t slow but it’s just not as fast as TouchID. Especially when pulling them out of my pocket. TouchID can be unlocked before FaceID even has a chance.
Though TouchID is slower if you're trying to act on a notification, or in instances where apps want to use Biometrics to authenticate. They both have their advantages.
 
Agreed, it's also basically useless when iPhone is mounted on car dash in holder whilst my 8+ unlocks all day long with my fingers. With the X, forced to punch in passcode or take iPhone out of holder and then shove next to face.

Not sure where you have your phone mounted or what type of vehicle you have, but Face ID works just fine while it’s mounted and I’m driving in my vehicle. Sees my face just fine even on a slight angle.

Tip: I have mine attached to the closest vent to my steering wheel.
 
Do you own an iPhone X? FaceID is incredibly fast for me, and works in situations where TouchID didn't.
It's going to come in handy for those of us in the northeast pretty soon when we're wearing gloves, since even gloves that can be used with the display obviously couldn't activate Touch ID.
 
You planning to keep x?
Yup, except for the FaceID not working as smoothly as I had hoped, its been a fantastic phone. I have no regrets, and I fully expect apple to improve FaceID.

I also turned off attention awareness and Require Attention for FaceID. I'll see if that improves the performance.
 
Analysts are predicting 80-82 million units sold this quarter. This compares to 74.5, 74.8, and 78.3 million sold Q1 for the past three years which is roughly a 3% annual growth rate in sales. It will be a record breaking quarter but almost all the additional revenue is coming from the higher price of the iPhone X and the higher price and higher adoption rate of Apple Care.

Given the predictions of a supercycle this year as people waited to purchase a new phone until the X was released, I'm surprised shipping dates are still hovering around December 1 with sales up less than 5% from last year. Expectations were sales would be strong for six months or more as massive pent-up demand for the redesigned device severely outstripped supply. Now it looks like the initial demand will be satisfied this quarter.
 
For that reason I can't see it converting Android users because the Samsung 8/Note series give more in features and looks and for a lot less than the X. Why would they change?. Pay more for less? But. I can see existing iPhone users buying it because their main draw isn't so much the X itself but the fact it runs iOS and that it's new and looks a lot nicer than the existing line up.

If I were an Android user, I'd probably switch after finding out you don't get updates when security holes are discovered. With iOS, almost all phone are updated within a reasonable amount of time.
 
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