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Looks like the scalpers aren't getting their high profit dreams either. The phones aren't selling for much more than retail price on eBay. Given the fees and PayPal fees, I doubt they'll make a dime.
 
Can you use the phone without Face ID? I have absolutely no desire to use Face ID, and it is probably the main thing keeping me in my iPhone 6 at the moment.
Sure you have a couple choices. One use passcode only. That is the most secure of all. Or remove passcode and use phone without any security.

These choices have been available on all iPhones since passcode was first used and you have these choices on the iPhone X.
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Looks like the scalpers aren't getting their high profit dreams either. The phones aren't selling for much more than retail price on eBay. Given the fees and PayPal fees, I doubt they'll make a dime.
Good, maybe start putting an end to this scalping.
 
A lot of the sales are going to scalpers. For everyone else, it's too soon to tell if they're going to return or keep since they're still in evaluation phase. So far, it seems like after the initial hype and curiosity, people tend return it due to the awkward UI gestures without the familiar home button and missing chunk of top screen that don't justify the sticker shock.
Nope not this year. The line waiters killed the scalpers especially after everyone realized there was just enough supply to keep people happy.
 
That’s my point exactly. I won’t spend money on new technology that’s slower than something that’s already out. Everyone is getting so defensive and triggered here, it’s ridiculous!

Go you. Millions have shown they're totally cool with the new tech. As most have said, it works so seamlessly, they forget it's even there. Have fun pressing your button.
 
Anyone heard of ATT buy iPhone X get iPhone 8 free deal? starting from November 2nd, no requirement for Direct TV subscribers ? I am tempted to do that, but don't know what will be the catch.
 
Which phone are you comparing it to? I have the 8Plus and my gf has the X. FaceID isn’t slow but it’s just not as fast as TouchID. Especially when pulling them out of my pocket. TouchID can be unlocked before FaceID even has a chance.

Who cares? Lol it’s still fast. It’s what? A second or 2 difference? Are you just trying to justify and nitpick why people shouldn’t be buying a thousand dollar phone?
 



AT&T chief John Donovan has confirmed that demand for the iPhone X has been "strong" following the device's "highly-anticipated" launch in the United States and over 50 other countries just four days ago.

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"All the signs are that customers love it. It's probably the most highly-anticipated version... and demand has been strong. So we're pleased," Donovan said at the Web Summit conference in Lisbon, Portugal, per CNBC.

Apple no longer provides first weekend sales numbers for iPhone launches, and it doesn't reveal iPhone sales on a model-by-model basis in its quarterly earnings results, but it did say pre-order demand was "off the charts."Apple's guidance for the current quarter is between $84 billion and $87 billion, which would easily be an all-time record even at the lower end of that range, suggesting that iPhone X sales are and will remain very strong.

Localytics, a mobile engagement platform used by more than 37,000 apps, said iPhone X adoption outpaced iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus adoption over the first three days of availability following each device's respective launches.

iPhone X online orders placed today are estimated to ship in 3-4 weeks around the world. The device is also available to purchase in stores, but inventory is extremely limited right now, especially outside of the United States.

Article Link: AT&T Confirms iPhone X Demand 'Has Been Strong' Following 'Highly-Anticipated' Launch
I hear one 8 iphone was sold to someone. The X has eclipsed the 8 7 6 world.
 
Except that FaceID is slower than TouchID.
As an absolute value, yes, it can be slower. As a practical value, it's immaterial. I may be unimaginative so forgive me, but there's no practical or appreciable value in Touch ID being fractions of a second faster than Face ID. Touch ID's speed vs Face ID's speed is a virtual tech paper tiger. Besides it literally doesn't matter unless you're running around drag racing people on biometric id speeds. If you are doing that, you gonna have to let me get in on some of that action. I will add speed holes and a turbo charger to my fp scanner.:D
 
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Analysts are predicting 80-82 million units sold this quarter. This compares to 74.5, 74.8, and 78.3 million sold Q1 for the past three years which is roughly a 3% annual growth rate in sales. It will be a record breaking quarter but almost all the additional revenue is coming from the higher price of the iPhone X and the higher price and higher adoption rate of Apple Care.

Given the predictions of a supercycle this year as people waited to purchase a new phone until the X was released, I'm surprised shipping dates are still hovering around December 1 with sales up less than 5% from last year. Expectations were sales would be strong for six months or more as massive pent-up demand for the redesigned device severely outstripped supply. Now it looks like the initial demand will be satisfied this quarter.

A. Apple increased the price by 54% ($350).
B. The YouTube reviews have been lukewarm.
 
"demand has been strong"

Amazing what that can mean to different people. The only thing it does not say is that demand was weak.

Other words, and what do they really mean? Hint: Almost nothing. Just a safe response from a Sr Exec.


Strong
Great
Very strong
Amazing
above expectations
crazy
wonderful
intense

The response is meaningless.
Is $87B in revenue guidance for Q1 "strong" enough for you?
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A. Apple increased the price by 54% ($350).
B. The YouTube reviews have been lukewarm.
You really think the majority of the population makes buying decisions based on YouTube reviews, which by the way, have actually been more positive than lukewarm? Almost 0 of any meaningful channels have been negative.

Apple guided for $87B which means they:

A. Expect huge demand for iPhone X
B. Expect to be able to ship those orders
C. Put to rest any supply concerns
 
You can effectively change it yourself right now. Don’t look wait and swipe up. Just swipe up, Face ID takes off by itself. I just swipe up now and it unlocks. No need to wait for lock image to cycle.

Am now frustrated with my iPad Air 2, having to hit home button. I rather prefer the up swipe gesture now after using its couple days.
You can get to the "Accessibility" menu and turn off having to press on the home button for the touchid. I can just place my finger on the Touch ID sensor and the phone unlocks already. Way faster than touchid on the X. Plus I can feel for the button also while 8+ is in my pocket so phone is unlocked and ready to go every time I take out of my pocket. With faceid, if I'm wearing my Maui Jims in bright sunlight, I have to either move my sunglasses out of the way or change how I'm standing so the sunlight isn't hitting the X at a certain angle. It's just a PITA...

The narrower screen size is another annoyance. Feels like a repeat of going from 4s to the 5 where majority of my apps are unoptimized and the screen feels as small as the non-plus models...
If anyone remembers, some apps took until the 5s before they were finally optimized for the larger screen...
 
You’re paying 350 USD to remove the bezels and replace Touch ID with Face ID, and increasing your insurance/repair costs. If that’s what you want then more power to you.
OLED. Much higher resolution screen. New design. Dual image stabilization. Better cameras. The front camera module does and will do more than FaceID.

But let's keep saying it's just FaceID, no bezels, and more money.
 
You really think the majority of the population makes buying decisions based on YouTube reviews, which by the way, have actually been more positive than lukewarm? Almost 0 of any meaningful channels have been negative.

No, because they are an indicator of feedback from the innovators / early adopters, not the majority. There views will be mainstream in the future.
 
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Were you doing it in store? If so, you were more than likely on Apple Store WiFi which was saturated to the brim with folks not only activating their new X, but also every other iPhone model sold (and iPad/Mac). Everyone was having trouble.

Akin to being at an event with thousands of people and not being able to make a phone call due to line/data saturation. WiFi can only support so many connections at a time before a “turn based” system goes into play which, unfortunately, might be longer than cellphone activation timeouts.
Nope. It was a well known widespread issue with AT&T. I was at home.
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That is a carrier issue, NOT Apple.

Lol, partly, but regardless, my reply was towards AT&T.
 
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Demand does not equal revenue. A lot of demand is plus folks thinking the X will meet their needs. I suspect return rates are also strong.
LOL. Source?

Demand does equal revenue for Apple. People demand it, Apple produces like no other, and people buy it. Apple has historically reported very LOW return numbers. Someone can check me on it, but I believe Cook has said it's well under 0.5% and satisfaction is consistently well over 92-94%.

Seriously, ALL of you acting like this X has been anything short of a ROUSING success are just haters, short, or both.

Did you just see the quarter Apple put up WITHOUT the X and just 2 weeks of the iPhone 8 and Watch 3? They were selling old everything and just beat profit by nearly a billion dollars.

I am predicting Apple gets close to $100B in sales this quarter. People have already forgotten Homepod will be in the mix as well as The 8, X, and Watch 3. They did almost $80B last Q1 and people expected doom because of "weak" iPhone 7 demand.
 
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One day, yes. For now FaceID is a lesser alternative, as it's considerably slower and is not completely reliable yet.
Considerable being the operative word here, just like the description 'has been strong' in the title is meaningless. Your description is qualitative or subjective, can you quantify the slowness, and how it hinders the user experience?
 
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Nope. It was a well known widespread issue with AT&T. I was at home.
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Lol, partly, but regardless, my reply was towards AT&T.

Some additional insight from a former insider that you might find interesting: After the debacle of the iPhone 3G launch on carrier activation systems, Apple started letting select members of each major carrier stress test the activation system at least 30 days in advance of a launch. Lots of NDA's are signed etc, and these people are told in advance of an iPhone launch in order to prep the systems. It is a coordinated test between Apple and the carriers, so it's not ENTIRELY on the carrier.

Want to guess how much extra activation traffic AT&T gets on iPhone launch day? 82 Times normal levels.

I think AT&T has done pretty well with this stress testing the past few years, but they obviously failed with the iPhone X. Perhaps they didn't think it would be more than iPhone 8 levels and they set capacity for lower levels. That would be my best guess. They messed up. As huge as AT&T is with hundreds of thousands of employees, the actual number who work in Mobility HQ is quite small. Small teams like Apple.
 
Yup, except for the FaceID not working as smoothly as I had hoped, its been a fantastic phone. I have no regrets, and I fully expect apple to improve FaceID.

I also turned off attention awareness and Require Attention for FaceID. I'll see if that improves the performance.

Ya Keeping your X?
 
You can get to the "Accessibility" menu and turn off having to press on the home button for the touchid. I can just place my finger on the Touch ID sensor and the phone unlocks already. Way faster than touchid on the X. Plus I can feel for the button also while 8+ is in my pocket so phone is unlocked and ready to go every time I take out of my pocket. With faceid, if I'm wearing my Maui Jims in bright sunlight, I have to either move my sunglasses out of the way or change how I'm standing so the sunlight isn't hitting the X at a certain angle. It's just a PITA...

The narrower screen size is another annoyance. Feels like a repeat of going from 4s to the 5 where majority of my apps are unoptimized and the screen feels as small as the non-plus models...
If anyone remembers, some apps took until the 5s before they were finally optimized for the larger screen...
Looks like X isn’t for you then. That’s OK. You have choices.
 
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