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You're saying you have a 40GB limit using hotspot in the US? 😂 LMAO!
Here in Italy you can get a 100GB sim prepaid plan for ~ $ 12 a month, and you're free to use the data as you like. Oh, and it includes unlimited free phone calls and sms 😉
 
The bigger story is that their international plan is now capped at $100 a month for unlimited use. Before it was $10 a day no matter what. Now a full month abroad is $100 which isn’t bad at all. Huge news.
 
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This is their way of competing with T-Mobile. Magenta Max has already had this for a few months. And T-Mobile’s the only carrier with taxes and fees included in their pricing.
Spectrum Mobile is $45 per month with all taxes and fees included. And it's no contract.
 
Wow, removing limits on their "Unlimited" plans. What a genius idea.

here in Germany every plan is promoted as „unlimited“ but depending on your plan(anything from 500 mb to X GB), it gets throttled to either 64kbps or 32 kbps! but „technically“ still unlimited, since they don’t cut your connection
 
I'll bite!

Unlimited should mean "no limits"

And yet... throttling is a speed limit... which is... by its name... a LIMIT

That's why people are annoyed by that word.

What these companies are really saying is: "It's unlimited... but actually there are some limits..."

But good on AT&T for creating an "Elite" Unlimited plan that isn't throttled. High five. ✋

I'm worried about the future though. Once AT&T finally gives people unlimited amounts of data at unlimited speeds... where can they go from there? There are no more upgrades to sell people.

Well I guess they could just raise the price...

(and yes... I know "Unlimited" in this context has always meant the amount of data... I'm just fooling around...)

:p
Well the whole plan before I left as a tech was to use the cell phone infrastructure to start selling customers Broadband internet through small boxes that could be placed anywhere in the house without piggybacking any city utility whatsoever.
 
I'll bite!

Unlimited should mean "no limits"

And yet... throttling is a speed limit... which is... by its name... a LIMIT

That's why people are annoyed by that word.

What these companies are really saying is: "It's unlimited... but actually there are some limits..."

But good on AT&T for creating an "Elite" Unlimited plan that isn't throttled. High five. ✋

I'm worried about the future though. Once AT&T finally gives people unlimited amounts of data at unlimited speeds... where can they go from there? There are no more upgrades to sell people.

Well I guess they could just raise the price...

(and yes... I know "Unlimited" in this context has always meant the amount of data... I'm just fooling around...)

:p
Well I'm shure the fine print says unlimited data, not unlimeted speed for unlimited data, somwgere else they would be sued every day. Unfotrunatly the poring an long winded fine print needs to be read utherwise the thinly vailed ad, ehm I mean the plan name will fool anyone
 
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Plus you pay taxes and fees, which can push it over $100 depending on where you live. This is a major reason why I stick with prepaid.
Ouch an I thought Norway was expensive here ve get Unlimited date (whether on hotspot or on the device) (limited to 3Mbps after money data usage passes 100GB) únlimited minute/sms/mms for ~$65/month all applicable fees and taxes included. The 5G rollout will not be completed untill next year tho. and ofc we have rome like home when we are in the entire EU+Switzerland (limitid to 40GB/month) not a bad deal right?

Edit (~5h later): ok this wasn't even the cheapest I found on for only ~$46month the only difference is that the EU roming limit is 27GB/month instead of 40. The VMNO that has this uses the same MNO as the exaple apove so same coverage. The slightly ironical thinh here is the the Norwegian elecoms regulator says that mobile data is to expensive in Norway and is investigating possible remedies. Stick this in your pipe an smoke it FCC you have been sleaping at the wheel agaim. And Yea I know the US is rather larger than Norway but you allso have 330M people insted of 5.3M , Norway allso as a lot more mountains an valleys which necessitates a lot of base stations to cover relatively few people (and with 5G they need to run fiber to each to get the bnbandwith needed) so all in all cost/customer might be the same, tho I imagine keeping staff in Norway might be a bit more expensive than the US.
 
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You're saying you have a 40GB limit using hotspot in the US? 😂 LMAO!
Here in Italy you can get a 100GB sim prepaid plan for ~ $ 12 a month, and you're free to use the data as you like. Oh, and it includes unlimited free phone calls and sms 😉
Always amusing when relatively tiny countries brag about cell rates, but never fuel prices as an example. Italy the size of Arizona England the size of Alabama, have quite different simple infrastructure compared to US. Europe has plenty to brag about, silly comparisons like this not so much.
 
Definitely not a monopoly.

You know what Verizon can't do? Offer HBO Max to its customers for free.
You might want to look up what a monopoly is. Verizon used to bundle their Go90 service with their plans (before they shuttered the service). If verizon owned a legit streaming service, you can bet they would include it in their plans.
 
Another reason why I stick with prepaid is because most postpaid plans bundle in services I don't want -- and don't want to pay for. (After all, they're not free. They're just rolled into the price.) For example, I have no interest in Disney+. I already have HBO Max for $5/month as part of my grandfathered-in AT&T TV Now (formerly DirecTV Now) subscription.

The basics -- voice, text, data and hotspot -- are more important to me.
 
I've been with AT&T since they were AT&T Wireless before Cingular, then back to AT&T! I think this is the first time ever they have upgraded a plan instead of creating a new plan with more perks and thus, charging more.
You go a little farther back with them than I do -- I was a Cingular customer in the late 90s that got pulled into AT&T Wireless when Cingular was acquired (if my memory is serving me).

And yes -- this is definitely the first time I can remember them doing something like this! I guess with 3 major players in the market now (something I was fine with -- I thought having three big guys was better than two big guys and two small guys), maybe there actually IS increased competition?! :)

As an Unlimited Elite customer, I am definitely happy about this move! I wouldn't say it makes me "like" AT&T, but maybe this undoes a little bit of angst that's built up over the years. (Actually in general, AT&T has been OK -- I mean, it's not like they're COMCAST or anything, LOL!)
 
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T-Mobile is the 5G King right now. AT&T and Verizon are going to have to heat things up in other offerings or they will bleed customers to T-Mobile.
T-Mobile still lacks reliable coverage, at least in MN. I'm using the free "test drive" feature to compare to Verizon and, yes, when you CAN get 5G, it cannot be beat currently. That said, there are far too many times where I drop down to EDGE or even "no service" and when you get to 1-2 bars (which happens quite often) the service might as well be non-existent because ping is so high and data is below 1mbps.

I'd much rather take 40mbps basically EVERYWHERE than get pockets of 300mbps. 40mbps is still plenty fast to do most things I do with my phone, and when I am out driving, that's what I want.
 
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I've been around since before AT&T got split into Baby Bells during anti-trust proceedings in the 1970s. They were screwing customers then. When they split them into Baby Bells, then we had multiple telecom companies screwing customers, and AT&T grew even more wealthy. There is a proud tradition at ol' Ma Bell of screwing customers right and left! That is NEVER going to change. I'll go back to using two empty soup cans with a string attached between them to communicate before I ever go back to those blood sucking leeches!
 
Dont know what you guys are complaining about....ive been with AT&T(Cingular) since the first iPhone...their grandfathered original unlimited plan plus the Apple FAN discount I have was the best deal around for over a decade (50 bucks a month).

They finally got me to switch to their new unlimited plan, and even though its 20 bucks more it more than covers itself (15 bucks HBO max that I was paying before anyway, and the hotspot plus better unlimited features more than covers the extra 5 bucks).

Only thing I can complain about is coverage, but that goes with every carrier. Instead of focusing on coverage they build out these gimmick mmwave **** networks that you encounter once a year (I live in NYC and think have seen it once or twice on my phone).
 
I was thinking of switching to give them a try. I've been with AT&T since before the Sabertooth Tiger died out. Things at AT&T are changing, and I'm not impressed.
T-Mobile is offering a free 30 day test drive for those who have an esim in their iPhone.
I found the coverage less than my sprint sadly.
 
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If you have the money to pay off the phone, put it into an interest bearing account and set it to auto pay. No cost to do that and you have access to the cash balance in case of an emergency.

Right, at a whopping 0.05% APR I'll be rolling in it. lol.
 
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