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Why charge for the first 200 txt?

I understand the need to increase data plan cost for the 3G upgrade, however, I am not happy with the extra charge for 200 txt. This was included in the last data plan and should remain so. They charge for txt because of heavy txt users, not for people like me that send a convenient 20-30 txts a month. Now I will have to pay $5 for those same txt. Rip-off!! If txt is taking up a lot of data throughput, then use a threshold number to charge heavy users for the cost of txt. The truth is each txt probably cost AT&T .01 cents or less. Rip-off!!!
 
This has nothing to do with the thread and I am sure no one knows what you are talking about. :confused:

Sorry :(, Nehalem is the new intel processor that isnt even out yet lol.
He probably means penryn.

Anyways (cough)...I mean who cares , all you guys are doing is complaining anyways lol. Look if you can afford it, get it. If you can't, move on. This phone/plan obviously isn't for the 16 year old in high school with the 8 dollar/hr job :)

My 2 cents.:cool:
 
Ok, so I am still kind of confused at this point :confused:. I'm on the FamilyTalk Nation 550 Rollover & Unlimited Night/Weekend, & Unlimited M2M + Unlimited Txt. I have two questions:

1. There are 3 lines on the plan. Am I able to take advantage of another line's upgrade eligibility, if I am not eligible?

2. So how much would be added to the existing plan if I add one iPhone 3G to the plan?
 
This smells like the downfall of the iPhone.

I am happy paying T-Mobile $109.99 for MyFaves Family 800 min plan. With Unlimited texts for family, and one unlimited data plan, two iPhones, two happy people, I made the right choice keeping my G1 iPhone and sticking with T-Mobile
:):)
 
It doesn't change the fact that they are the cheapest and offer better service in some areas and have had their 3G networks rolled out long before AT&T, and offer phone insurance while AT&T just tells you to f*** off.
With all of that going for them, I wonder why it is that Sprint is the only major cell phone company to keep LOSING more customers than it gains?! :eek:
 
Sorry :(, Nehalem is the new intel processor that isnt even out yet lol.
He probably means penryn.

Anyways (cough)...I mean who cares , all you guys are doing is complaining anyways lol. Look if you can afford it, get it. If you can't, move on. This phone/plan obviously isn't for the 16 year old in high school with the 8 dollar/hr job :)

My 2 cents.:cool:

That is what I am hoping for in my next MBP (specifically when "N" does come) note the SOON at the end.

I agree about the price thing. Same goes for most Apple products, if you want it pay for it, but it still feels good to rant and moan about the rip-offs.
 
Wow, paying $20 a month for unlimited texts!? Are you kidding me?

$10 more a month for 3G service I don't have in my area?

That's some BS. I was totally going to buy an iPhone before this, but not anymore. I don't care how awesome the iPhone is, screw that.
 
The chart confuses me. I currently have the 1400 family plan (1 iPhone + non-Phone) and it comes to $125 per month after taxes.

I plan on buying the iPhone 3G and giving my iPhone to my wife. If I want the same plan, how much am I look it?

About $140 per month if you keep the 200 SMS.
 
With all of that going for them, I wonder why it is that Sprint is the only major cell phone company to keep LOSING more customers than it gains?! :eek:

Your point? Besides that Sprint isn't doing that well as a cell company though it's still 3rd, in front of T-Mobile Virgin Mobile All-Tel, Cricket and probably some that I have missed.

Not debating whether or not Sprint is doing that well business wise, just whether or not there are much better options out there, and whether or not those that don't have AT&T service should switch.

For those that have Sprint, they would be loosing a lot more money switching especially if they are paying for the ETF.
 
That is what I am hoping for in my next MBP (specifically when "N" does come) note the SOON at the end.

I agree about the price thing. Same goes for most Apple products, if you want it pay for it, but it still feels good to rant and moan about the rip-offs.

:(, thanks for clearing that up. I need to learn how to read. But seriously, I agree with you but ranting and moaning does nothing in the overall picture except discourage people that are on the fence. If [you] don't have the money...move on (or go make more?:p). As people said in this thread, the phone is no more expensive than the other smart phones that are out....

Put it this way, I'm glad people are reacting this way, so I can wake up at 8:00am ...stroll over to the store and buy one :).
 
Apple Stores...

So everything i've seen is saying the ATT stores open at 8, what about the Apple Stores?

Last year, when the 1g launched, ATT stores sold out in about 20 minutes, while Apple Stores had mostly unlimited supplies.
 
This smells like the downfall of the iPhone.

I am happy paying T-Mobile $109.99 for MyFaves Family 800 min plan. With Unlimited texts for family, and one unlimited data plan, two iPhones, two happy people, I made the right choice keeping my G1 iPhone and sticking with T-Mobile
:):)

Here, here...

$64.99 for 1000 minutes, free nights/weekends, 400 texts, and unlimited data (with Hotspot access).

Which is why the iPhone is EXCLUSIVE to AT&T - they can start charging whatever they want.

Voice AND Data required (other PDA's they allow data only).

AT&T customers are chumped...
 
I haven't been able to find the answer to this question:confused: :

When my contract is up, can I just drop the data plan and have voice only?
 
:(, thanks for clearing that up. I need to learn how to read. But seriously, I agree with you but ranting and moaning does nothing in the overall picture except discourage people that are on the fence. If [you] don't have the money...move on (or go make more?:p). As people said in this thread, the phone is no more expensive than the other smart phones that are out....

Put it this way, I'm glad people are reacting this way, so I can wake up at 8:00am ...stroll over to the store and buy one :).

Which is true, but I have to step in when people are pulling us fence sitters to the iPhone side with little facts and more opinions. There is a thread where another Sprint user was trying to make the decision to go AT&T and iPhone, and many of the posts simply tell him to do so since the iPhone is, "The bestest best phone in the hole wyde wurld!!!!1!!!"

Then it's time to debate, and bring facts and see. If the OP wants to move to AT&T then so be it, but don't let him do that because he thinks the phone is the end all be all in the cell industry.

For me, it's price. Not that I can't afford it, but I don't want to pay more that $50 extra for the only features that tickle my fancy: Mobile Me and iTunes syncing.

I do know that my mother and fiancee (Sprint fangirl for a decade) wouldn't mind moving over to the iPhone, but not necessarily AT&T, (been there done that :mad: ) but maybe a Family Plan under AT&T that I pay for myself will help offset the higher service plans.
 
Wow, paying $20 a month for unlimited texts!? Are you kidding me?

$10 more a month for 3G service I don't have in my area?

That's some BS. I was totally going to buy an iPhone before this, but not anymore. I don't care how awesome the iPhone is, screw that.

All phones charge $20 for unlimited texts (at least on AT&T's network). I've been paying $20 for unlimited texts since I had I had a Z525a (actually a pretty decent phone considering it was *just* a phone). Last month I had over 1500 text messages and it wouldn't have taken many to make that 1500 plan not be worth it anymore...
 
Loss leaders

Haven't you ever been into a grocery store? They are called loss-leaders. You come in for the sale items and they get you everywhere else. What did people think that a $199/$299 iPhone was going to come out of Apple's/ATT's pockets? Steve was just another sales guy at WWDC. "For the low, low price of...you get our amazing new..."

Yeah, that's exactly what's going on, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

I once went into a gas station with an excellent deal: a free bag of chips with a large soda. I was addicted to soda at the time, so to me it was just a free bag of chips. So I got that bag of chips, a big soda, a little package of Chex mix, and a candy bar (I know, not the best diet). Anyway, the guy's register rang the whole thing up for 29 cents. The actual cost (leaving out tax) was $1.09 (soda) + .99 (chips) + .49 (Chex mix) + .49 (candy) = $3.06 - .99 (chips) = $2.07. Well, the cashier actually got angry at me for suggesting that the price was higher. Normally I'm pretty honest, but the guy was getting worked up, so I just paid the 29 cents and left. The whole transaction was a travesty.

My point is that people are not able to make rationale economic decisions when they are not paying for the costs. Everyone gets confused, which means that cannot make good decisions. This in turn causes business not to optimize and compete, which eventually costs everyone extra money.
 
:rolleyes:
Just because the average person is an idiot doesn't change the fact that you're wrong and it is definitely not the same thing.

You guys are beating up on teh don ditty too much, but .20¢ is not even reasonably common usage. In fact, xx¢ is about out of the common usage, $.20, or $0.20 for immediate clarity, having pushed out ¢, ¢ being people when ¢ would actually buy a lot of staple items. But you can't put the a decimal point in front of a two-digit number and trail it with the cents symbol; that's a fraction of cent, as mentioned, and if the value you want is really 20 cents, it's just flat wrong, not common usage.
 
600 bucks???

cant i just buy an iphone at a subsidized rate and then pay 175 bucks early termination fee after one month? I mean thats cheaper..
 
For me, the ideal situation would be to use the iPhone under normal use cases, paying for data a la carte (ouch, they really nickel and dime you to death) to see what my average data usage is per month and evaluate whether their MEdia Net Unlimited for $15 would be more beneficial to me.

It's not worth it. My unlocked iPhone used up $$$$ worth of data charges on AT&T two weeks ago. As far as I know it was only checking mail or something, I wasn't even using it for browsing.
 
The existing 59.99 plan is no longer eligible for the iphone. If you have a existing 59.99 plan you will be forced into the new 69.99 plan.

Really? I thought wireless providers in general let you carry through your old pricing plan. Case in point, I am on a 49.99 plan with ATT for 600 anytime, unlimited night/weekends.

They didn't force me to switch to a new plan when i got the iPhone, clearly.
 
So with the 8 a.m. opening time mentioned for the At&t stores, it really makes me wonder what time the Apple stores will be opening. Because it seems more likely the Apple store will have more of a stock.

As of yesterday, the Apple store in NYC at 5th Ave was still telling me they did NOT know when they were opening...
 
It's not worth it. My unlocked iPhone used up $$$$ worth of data charges on AT&T two weeks ago. As far as I know it was only checking mail or something, I wasn't even using it for browsing.

If you didnt have the data on the old iPhone and was using it just for voice and the WiFi you can add the WIX BLOCK, which blocks all pay-per-use data. I did this with my unlocked BB 8320 on At&t.
 
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