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It does, but it's not correct. I've already switched to the plan, and have looked up the information on my account and the ATT app. It's a shared pool.
That being specifically in relation to this new unlimited pre-paid plan with multiple lines?
 
Because some of us are cord-cutters. Not only cord-cutters, but also choose to not have a TV, and watch some things on our mobile devices.

First, cord-cutters don't all watch TV/movies away from home or work WiFi by definition. On a per-bit level, home broadband is something like 50x cheaper than LTE, so there really is a lot of incentive to download/watch everything you want while on WiFi.

Second, even if you do want to watch everything while out and about on LTE, then just get a plan with a larger data cap. I've seen the usage studies on this, the amount of folks that use more than 10gb per month is very small, less than half a percent of lines. They're a super niche group. If their usage is so high, they should pay for more expensive plans. Unlimited plans essentially have low-usage folks subsidize the cost of cellular for high-usage folks, and that's not fair.
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I agree. I am at 56 gigs about halfway through my month and no slow down. They do not throttle you. They may, or may no, slow you down if the tower is crowded.
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Ok. I've used 56 gigs about halfway through my month. Which capped plan do you suggest? I have 3 lines for 100.00 unlimited out the door.
I suggest you get on WiFi more.
 
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Don't bother. AT&T is the worst.
Generally for me, I agree. At my house, I get these speeds. They don't improve much when I move away from home until it gets to be around 9-10PM. I keep a prepaid AT&T sim around though and refill it every few months just to keep it active. These speeds are seriously bad compared to what I get on T-Mobile.

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Are these speeds considered 'good' in America? I get over 20Mbps from my mobile here in the UK and I'm not even in an urban area.
These are what I get on T-Mobile. That is impressive compared to the less then 1MB I get on AT&T. At night, I've been topping out at about 150Mbps on T-Mobile

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These are what I get on T-Mobile. That is impressive compared to the less then 1MB I get on AT&T. At night, I've been topping out at about 150Mbps on T-Mobile

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There you go russian. What would 150. At home cost? 100.00 for 3 lines unlimited data? You are living 10 years in the past. Unlimited is future, who needs slow home Internet. Enen here in mexico unless you live where there is totalplay phone data is faster. Where I am when in the us the phone data is faster and costs about half what 3 lines cost with unlimited faster data. If I added it I would STILL pay the same or more for cell phones.

The point is you need to get out more things are different everywhere.

They ( t mobile example) are not just going unlimited but dropping prices. Convince me how going back to a more expensive capped plan is netter.
 
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I've been paying for the $45 prepaid and I just noticed that they upped the data from 4GB to 6 and there is no 3Mbps limit like on the unlimited $60 plan.
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There you go russian. What would 150. At home cost? 100.00 for 3 lines unlimited data? You are living 10 years in the past. Unlimited is future, who needs slow home Internet. Enen here in mexico unless you live where there is totalplay phone data is faster. Where I am when in the us the phone data is faster and costs about half what 3 lines cost with unlimited faster data. If I added it I would STILL pay the same or more for cell phones.

The point is you need to get out more things are different everywhere.

They ( t mobile example) are not just going unlimited but dropping prices. Convince me how going back to a more expensive capped plan is netter.
I'm lost on your point here. I have 3 lines on T-Mobile for $100. That's more data then I can ever use. I just have the three lines because one is free.
 
I'm no fan of AT&T but that $40/$45 prepaid plan sounds almost good. 3Mbps is more than I get in the real world where I live and work using T-Mobile with an iPhone 6, so if I actually attained 3Mbps it would be a slight improvement. And my plan now does not include unlimited talk, only unlimited data and texting. I have no use for tethering, especially regarding the slow cellular data speeds I get.

The iPhone 6 doesn't fully support T-Mobile's network, specifically missing LTE band 12; if you got a newer model you would see a huge difference. I switched 2 phones from ATT to TMO, one of them was an iPhone 6 and I sold it and upgraded to a 7 just for that very reason. The 6s and 7 have LTE band 12.
 
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The iPhone 6 doesn't fully support T-Mobile's network, specifically missing LTE band 12; if you got a newer model you would see a huge difference. I switched 2 phones from ATT to TMO, one of them was an iPhone 6 and I sold it and upgraded to a 7 just for that very reason. The 6s and 7 have LTE band 12.
I noticed this last night. All of my iPhones are unlocked. I used my AT&T sim in my 6+ and the data speeds around my area were pretty slow last night. Previously, I used the sim in my 6S or 6S+ and was pretty happy especially late at night. I don't own the 7.
 
I'm lost on your point here. I have 3 lines on T-Mobile for $100. That's more data then I can ever use. I just have the three lines because one is free.

I quoted your post but my reply was to madrussian saying I need to go on wifi more. He claims capped plans and home wifi are better and cheaper. Why? Three lines of unlimited for 100.00 which is faster for us and cheaper than capped plans plus wifi.

We have 3, one for the youngest.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
That was my point. I quoted your post but my reply was to russian saying I need to go on wifi more. Why? Three lines of unlimited for 100.00 which is faster for us and cheaper than capped plans plus wifi.

We have 3, one for the youngest.

I know that It looks like I was replying to you, sorry. The point was to the madrussian.
Nice, thanks for explaining.
 
If it's like anything else ATT does they won't make any effort to tell existing customers on a more expensive but less capable plan about how they might save. They do it all the time. There will be prepaid customers paying more than $60 for a hard data cap with overages and ATT will never tell them they can switch.

Most recent example for us: ATT slightly renamed their family plans and changed the smart phone access fee. Used to be $40 per phone -$15 for not being on a subsidized phone. Well, since they don't do subsidized phones anymore, their current slightly renamed plans just have a $20 per phone access. But existing customers aren't informed because their "grandfathered" plan still costs more than the slightly renamed identical but cheaper plan , so they pay an extra $5 per month for each phone until they notice.

Worse, my mom is on the 300MB plan which is no longer offered. But they still charge $40-$15=$25 for access. She can't even change to the current $20 fee because then she'd have to pay for a more expensive data plan, and pay $5 more a month for data she doesn't use, when she should be by all logic paying $5 less per month because the access fee for all other customers is $20.
 
We just switched from the big blue ballsack to Tmobile on February 8th. I, alone, used 45gigs. Never slowed down. Coverage is comparable which I live and places I go. Maxed out at 116mps and average between 30-50 which plenty. $184 all included for 3 lines with two phones financed. Was paying $268 for three lines at 10 gigs each with only 1 phone financed.
 
There you go russian. What would 150. At home cost? 100.00 for 3 lines unlimited data? You are living 10 years in the past. Unlimited is future, who needs slow home Internet. Enen here in mexico unless you live where there is totalplay phone data is faster. Where I am when in the us the phone data is faster and costs about half what 3 lines cost with unlimited faster data. If I added it I would STILL pay the same or more for cell phones.

The point is you need to get out more things are different everywhere.

They ( t mobile example) are not just going unlimited but dropping prices. Convince me how going back to a more expensive capped plan is netter.

Phone data is faster? What? Wire will always be much faster, lower latency, and more reliable.

Also when did tmobile drop prices? Their limited unlimited plan is more expensive than the simple choice plans it replaced. A lot more if you compare feature for feature.
 
On ATT website it is only 40$ after 5$ discount with auto pay and paperless billing. Am I missing something?

https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans/planconfigurator.html?tab=gophone&plan=basic

AT&T had yet to update its GoPhone website. It is now updated with the new plans/offers.

Where does it say "No tethering"??

It is not in the linked article.

I found an AT&T support document stating: "With the exception of the AT&T Unlimited Plus plan, mobile hotspot and tethering is prohibited on AT&T unlimited plans."

AT&T has since shared more fine print on the GoPhone website that says Mobile Hotspot use prohibited.

This is from ATT: "If you have a capable smartphone, you can use it as a Wi-Fi hotspot to share your data with other devices."

So... this is tethering, right?

See my answer above.

It's not 22 GB per line, it's a 22 GB pool shared by all the lines on your account.

They did honor my AARP 10% discount with the Unlimited Plus Family Plan.

Seems like the 22 GB number comes up in the context of being per line.

That being specifically in relation to this new unlimited pre-paid plan with multiple lines?

On live chat they told me it's 22GB per line

AT&T's fine print indeed says "after 22GB of data usage on a line in a rate plan term, for the rest of the term AT&T may slow data speeds on that line during periods of network congestion."
 
Phone data is faster? What? Wire will always be much faster, lower latency, and more reliable.

Also when did tmobile drop prices? Their limited unlimited plan is more expensive than the simple choice plans it replaced. A lot more if you compare feature for feature.
Try paying attention. Like I stated We do not have wifi and those closest that do have 1-2 mb. We get around 20mb on phone at home. Pull out a calculator and see which is faster. A lot of peoole do not live close to good wifi services. Faster speed on phone, much faster. Explain to me how much faster 1-2 mb's than 20 mbs. I am still waiting for which capped plan beats 3 lines for 100.00 otd so won't be happening.

You are flat our wrong on price, give it up. I had the lowest simple choice data plan at 3gb per line for two lines which was 40 each plus taxes. Raising the data to 6gb on each phone would have cost 15.00 per phone. My bill was about 97. plus change after added taxes and costs. If I had upped the cap to 6gb it would have been over 130.00 including taxes. Probably about 135.00. Even *two* lines for 100.00 unlimited is cheaper by about a third than the Simple choice 6gb two line package which was over 130.00.

The Plan I have now have 3 lines unlimited which is 100.00 INCLUDING taxes and fees. You are clearly wrong on this, stop while you are behind. Now PLEASE, PLEASE explain to me how paying for 6gb (not enough) on 2 lines for over 130.00 is better than 100.00 for 3 lines unlimited. PLUS paying on top of that much slower home wifi.

Before arguing such things you should at least know the prices. I am in mexico right now and the roaming fearures are the same. Full speed internet, 10 gigs tether and high speed videos.

My god, people on macrumors will argue anything. Knowledge of the subject not necessary.
 
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T-Mobile has been getting slower and slower where I live. These cheap unlimited plans are only going to make it worse. For a regular user, someone who is not watching multiple HD movies per month, service is deteriorating by the day. And the prices are static. I'd like to see some competition at the lower end. Some incentive to use less data and save some money. I'd switch to Project Fi in a heartbeat if they supported iPhones.

What slow speed you get on tmobile? 25 mbps? 20 mbps? What can lower 3 unlimited lines for 100 bucks including taxes and fees? i just tested my 6s and i got 113 mbps up and 33 mbps down!
 
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Why would you get this when you can get cricket unlimited for $55 a month that does 8mbps down on ATT towers and no longer sends traffic through a proxy?

I concur. The only down side to cricket is their tethering option is an extra $10.
 
I don't get why they are not limiting it to just 3 Mbps. Thats really low, and just stupid.


I know I'm on cricket which is owned by AT&T. Their download speeds is limited to 8mbps but that's fine with my use. 3mpbs is just too low. I was planning to transfer to the gophone 6gig plan until i read the file print. :/
 
First, cord-cutters don't all watch TV/movies away from home or work WiFi by definition. On a per-bit level, home broadband is something like 50x cheaper than LTE, so there really is a lot of incentive to download/watch everything you want while on WiFi.

Second, even if you do want to watch everything while out and about on LTE, then just get a plan with a larger data cap. I've seen the usage studies on this, the amount of folks that use more than 10gb per month is very small, less than half a percent of lines. They're a super niche group. If their usage is so high, they should pay for more expensive plans. Unlimited plans essentially have low-usage folks subsidize the cost of cellular for high-usage folks, and that's not fair.
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I suggest you get on WiFi more.

Hey, thanks for the lecture on how to live my life and how to spend my money. Until you know how much I use and the wheres and whys I choose to watch this way, mind your own business and count your own bytes.
 
Hey, thanks for the lecture on how to live my life and how to spend my money. Until you know how much I use and the wheres and whys I choose to watch this way, mind your own business and count your own bytes.

Yep! Some are not happy unless they are dictating to someone how to live.
 
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I live in San Francisco and I switched from AT&T to Tmobile - T-Moible speeds suck compared to AT&T but my bill dropped $25.00 /month and I don't have to 'watch' my data usage anymore.
 
Just switched to T-Mobile after 10 years with AT&T. Been amazing so far.

As of last week I would have said exactly the same, but now I'm starting to notice substantial differences in call quality (between T-Mobile and ATT) at least in my area. Wi-fi calling IS enabled and I assume is getting used sometimes. Most calls, wi-fi or not, sound far more "tinny" and I'm getting some drops.

Data rates are fantastic though. Definitely better than ATT.
 
T-Mobile has been getting slower and slower where I live. These cheap unlimited plans are only going to make it worse. For a regular user, someone who is not watching multiple HD movies per month, service is deteriorating by the day. And the prices are static. I'd like to see some competition at the lower end. Some incentive to use less data and save some money. I'd switch to Project Fi in a heartbeat if they supported iPhones.

So far, so good with me. I'm just worried T-Mobile might be starting to bite off more than it can chew. Happened to AT&T in the past as well as other companies.
 
Are these speeds considered 'good' in America? I get over 20Mbps from my mobile here in the UK and I'm not even in an urban area.

I have a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan from when I purchased my iPhone 3G and I can get around 75 mbs in the Columbus metro area on LTE.
 
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