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Move SIM

So I just moved the AT&T SIM that I had on my iPad Air to the iPad Air 2, and it worked seamlessly. Didn't even have to update the AT&T registration info, even through the IMEI record changed. Apple SIM saved for another day.
 
i smell a lawsuit against either AT&T or Apple. for false advertising or breeching a contract or some crap.

so glad i'm t-mobile.
 
Ummmm what's the big issue?

Just get a new sim. It's what the rest of the world has to do.

The issue is that Apple introduced this new Apple SIM touting it as an easy way to switch between supported carriers without having to swap the SIM card. AT&T is deliberately locking the Apple SIM once it's activated on their network to negate Apple's intended purpose for the Apple SIM.
 
The issue is that Apple introduced this new Apple SIM touting it as an easy way to switch between supported carriers without having to swap the SIM card. AT&T is deliberately locking the Apple SIM once it's activated on their network to negate Apple's intended purpose for the Apple SIM.

This sounds like a good reason for Apple to sue AT&T.
 
AT&T is not doing any of this without Tim Cook's knowledge and endorsement. So for everyone screaming about AT&T, your anger should be directed at your favorite company's fraudulent leader.
 
Thank you - you are already infinitely more knowledgeable than Verizon or Apple. Do I get that from Verizon (and/or can I take it from my old iPad 2?)

Nope. The iPad 2 uses a micro-SIM and the iPad Air 2 uses a nano-SIM. Just go to your nearest Verizon corporate store and they will gladly give you a Verizon nano-SIM.
 
The issue is that Apple introduced this new Apple SIM touting it as an easy way to switch between supported carriers without having to swap the SIM card. AT&T is deliberately locking the Apple SIM once it's activated on their network to negate Apple's intended purpose for the Apple SIM.

apple should just mail free sims to anyone wanting to switch from at&t or else they'd be accused of false advertising
 
Didn't the Verge have an article declaring the imminent death of the sim card not too long ago? So much for that.
 
AT&T is not doing any of this without Tim Cook's knowledge and endorsement. So for everyone screaming about AT&T, your anger should be directed at your favorite company's fraudulent leader.

"Fraudulent leader"? Dramatic much? How do you know that Tim Cook personally endorses AT&T's behavior?
 
Also .. while everyone is on a rant about lawsuits and the like. Did anyone bother to see if they could get a SIM from AT&T?

Looks like it's free .. at least online, and even for a Non-Contract selection.

So if you want AT&T but want to save your Apple SIM. Hit up AT&T for a free SIM (let them carry the cost), and be done with it.

While the image is for an iPad Air SIM ... the iPad Air 2 uses the same form factor.
 

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AT&T is not doing any of this without Tim Cook's knowledge and endorsement. So for everyone screaming about AT&T, your anger should be directed at your favorite company's fraudulent leader.

First of all, you don't know that Tim Cook or anyone at Apple knows about this. Endorses? Now you're pushing into hater territory. Fraudulent leader? Ok, obvious now.
 
ATT, as well as the other carriers, have methods of locking you into their service. They have early termination fees that you have to pay if you want to leave within contract. That should be enough. Locking your SIM card just seems petty. If you're expected to foot the bill for the device, they should have no right to lock your device. And really, it's a useless method of locking you in, anyway, because you can get a new SIM for under $10.

You are missing that AT&T locks the Apple SIM even when you buy the iPad directly from Apple at full price.

AT&T has NO RIGHT to claim that SIM as their own, and frankly this should be illegal. It's basically property damage. You literally have to buy a new SIM to restore the previous functionality.
 
So I just moved the AT&T SIM that I had on my iPad Air to the iPad Air 2, and it worked seamlessly. Didn't even have to update the AT&T registration info, even through the IMEI record changed. Apple SIM saved for another day.


I think I'll do the same... save the universal for another day. I don't want to give ATT any excuse to rip my unlimited iPad plan form me though...
 
Also .. while everyone is on a rant about lawsuits and the like. Did anyone bother to see if they could get a SIM from AT&T?

Looks like it's free .. at least online, and even for a Non-Contract selection.

So if you want AT&T but want to save your Apple SIM. Hit up AT&T for a free SIM (let them carry the cost), and be done with it.

While the image is for an iPad Air SIM ... the iPad Air 2 uses the same form factor.

Do we know if the AT&T SIM will require some sort of contract? If you can't jump on and off LTE service as needed, it would defeat the purpose of a universal SIM.
 
If AT&T didn't support what Apple wanted to do with the Apple SIM, they should've sat on the sidelines like Verizon did. By all appearances, AT&T played along with Apple in order to be included in the carrier list for the Apple SIM while underhandedly looking for (and apparently finding) a way to lock the SIM to their network once it's activated.

AT&T is shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to their relationship with Apple. I think their honeymoon period is definitely over now (if it wasn't already over a few years ago).
 
Defeats the purpose of the Apple SIM, AT&T.
The Apple SIM concept holds so much potential, but this will be a piecemeal implementation that takes baby steps.

This actually still makes it easier than the old way—before you had to get the cellular iPad model assigned to the carrier you wanted. Let's say you wanted Verizon in 64GB but they only had AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint, as well as Verizon in the other two capacities. In this case, you'd be out of luck. Now, as long as they have the color and capacity you want, a single cellular model will work with the carrier of your choice in the U.S. (assuming the carrier participates in the Apple SIM system, which three of the four major carriers do).

So it's still better than before, but sadly carriers have the choice to lock the Apple SIM to their network once you choose them. At the very least, only AT&T appears to be doing this, and the iPad itself remains unlocked, so you can use any other SIM card domestically (whether it's an Apple SIM or a proper SIM from a carrier) or abroad.
 
"With us you can change carriers with this iPad any time you want," he said. "It is an unlocked device. ... All [you] have to do is switch out the SIM in the device so it works on another carrier."

Ah the power of words, right? :cool:

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Do we know if the AT&T SIM will require some sort of contract? If you can't jump on and off LTE service as needed, it would defeat the purpose of a universal SIM.

If you're asking if the AT&T SIM is locked to their network? YES. So you would only be able to use it with AT&T ... but that's the complaint running here ... that using the Apple SIM on AT&T locks you to their network. So save the Apple SIM, and use the AT&T SIM (swap it out). Then switch out the AT&T SIM for Apple SIM when you want - presumably when you are out of country and want to use a different provider (assuming they don't lock the SIM to their network).
 
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