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As long as they dont buyout T-Mobile in the UK/EU I dont mind. I dont want the idiots behind AT&T getting their dirty hands on our decent networks...they've got to be the crappiest telecoms company around.
 
How does not scream higher prices for all?
Who can think this is possibly good? AT&T will now have the only GSM spectrum (basically) and can raise the prices, lower the caps, and constrict users even more.

not if they want to compete with verizon and sprint...
 
This could be very good news for people on AT&T right now. It means that you might just get better coverage once the networks are merged. Where I live, AT&T's data network is inexcusably awful. I'll have full 3G bars and won't be able to do a damned thing with the data network. Hopefully getting the T-Mobile tower in the area will fix that. I can see coverage for people in urban areas getting better, too. I'll admit, it's a smart move for AT&T. It shores up their network almost instantly and has the very real potential of fixing a lot of their existing problems. Then, because they already have the towers in place, it allows them to get better 4G (if it really is "4G") coverage pushed out that much faster as a lot of the regulatory crapola just got bypassed.

Dunno what it means for T-Mobile users, but it could mean the end of that BS 500MB cap on data that they recently slapped into place on new contracts.
 
Let's just take a second and think of the lay off's that we will see in the near future. There are T-Mobile shops and ATT shops right across the street from each other all over the US. Also a lot of administrative employees will suddenly find themself "redundant".

Usually Wallstreet will give soon an amout of savings due to "synergy" that they expect. Divide that by $200 000 and you have a good estimate how many people will be laid off.

My guess is that they will need to save 4-5 Billion given the size of the deal.

$5 000 000 000 / $ 200 000 = 25 000 future unemployed people.
A very rough estimate I admit and not all will get the boot this year but we talk about a lot of people here.
Ah, yeah, the savings usually don't go to the customer. It usually goes to the Banks and maybe the shareholders.
 
Oh, you mean like lowes and home depot not hurting my local mom and pop shops. Got it. :rolleyes:

Funny, (sad actually), kind of like how the major bookstore killed off the mom and pop bookstores. Now the big chain bookstore are being closed down.

Yeah-I know these are different circumstances/scenarios but it is really sad how much power is being consolidated into the hand of a few individuals/companies.
 
Yeah right US is not a socialist country that is why I live here ( I am German) and I know how much they pay in EU WAY more for less
Not for low end cell phone plans, try to find a match for this in the US:
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Let's just take a second and think of the lay off's that we will see in the near future. There are T-Mobile shops and ATT shops right across the street from each other all over the US. Also a lot of administrative employees will suddenly find themself "redundant".

Usually Wallstreet will give soon an amout of savings due to "synergy" that they expect. Divide that by $200 000 and you have a good estimate how many people will be laid off.

My guess is that they will need to save 4-5 Billion given the size of the deal.

$5 000 000 000 / $ 200 000 = 25 000 future unemployed people.
A very rough estimate I admit and not all will get the boot this year but we talk about a lot of people here.
Ah, yeah, the savings usually don't go to the customer. It usually goes to the Banks and maybe the shareholders.

Bingo. You sir are dead on.
 
irony:
the "ma bell" you speak of is actually verizon -> if you follow the corporate lineage.
AT&T is Ma bell in nomenclature (and logo) only.
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Not exactly. The original AT&T was broken up, and the local telephone businesses were split up into Regional Bell Operating Companies (RBOCS). Verizon is the result of the merger of several of those RBOCs; but the current AT&T includes former RBOCs Pacific Bell, BellSouth, Southwest Bell Corp (SBC), and others.
 
Not exactly. The original AT&T was broken up, and the local telephone businesses were split up into Regional Bell Operating Companies (RBOCS). Verizon is the result of the merger of several of those RBOCs; but the current AT&T includes former RBOCs Pacific Bell, BellSouth, Southwest Bell Corp (SBC), and others.

Exactly, the bells still operate under the at&t umbrella. My paycheck says "Pacific Bell Telephone Company".
 
I'm hoping that Apple will include all frequencies on iPhone 5 so iPhone 5 users can take advantage of better speeds.
 
Not good for the new carriers in Canada. They run on the same AWS band as T-Mobile, and typically get phones after T-Mobile gets them.

This kills the chance of a Wind or Mobilicity iPhone.

You never know, this could be a good thing. May be an easy reason for Apple to add the AWS/1700 3G band to the iPhone. They've added other bands in the past to help extend support for existing carriers around the world (800 & 900 bands added last summer to the iPhone 4).
 
Let's just take a second and think of the lay off's that we will see in the near future. There are T-Mobile shops and ATT shops right across the street from each other all over the US. Also a lot of administrative employees will suddenly find themself "redundant".

Usually Wallstreet will give soon an amout of savings due to "synergy" that they expect. Divide that by $200 000 and you have a good estimate how many people will be laid off.

My guess is that they will need to save 4-5 Billion given the size of the deal.

$5 000 000 000 / $ 200 000 = 25 000 future unemployed people.
A very rough estimate I admit and not all will get the boot this year but we talk about a lot of people here.
Ah, yeah, the savings usually don't go to the customer. It usually goes to the Banks and maybe the shareholders.

There may be some layoffs, but they will need to keep many to deal with the increase in traffic. I would guess they will reduce new-hires going forward and fill needs with TM workers.
 
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As a lifetime AT&T subscriber, I like this announcement a lot.
 
Let's just take a second and think of the lay off's that we will see in the near future. There are T-Mobile shops and ATT shops right across the street from each other all over the US. Also a lot of administrative employees will suddenly find themself "redundant".

Usually Wallstreet will give soon an amout of savings due to "synergy" that they expect. Divide that by $200 000 and you have a good estimate how many people will be laid off.

My guess is that they will need to save 4-5 Billion given the size of the deal.

$5 000 000 000 / $ 200 000 = 25 000 future unemployed people.
A very rough estimate I admit and not all will get the boot this year but we talk about a lot of people here.
Ah, yeah, the savings usually don't go to the customer. It usually goes to the Banks and maybe the shareholders.

Or they can do what most stores do when they are too close. They can move....
 
not if they want to compete with verizon and sprint...

Yeah because they were REALLY thinking that when they were competing with Verizon, Sprint, AND T-mobile

lets see

Cut off unlimited Data
Talks of cutting off unlimited Data for DSL
$40/m does NOT get you unlimited Nights and Weekends
and gunning after jailbreak tethering

Lets see when they become the only GSM carrier in the U.S.
 
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My son just left AT&T for T-Mobile. I guess he doesn't he doesn't have to have the iPhone 4 unlocked and jailbroken anymore.
 
I'm puzzled by this conclusion. The USA has four national carriers. i thought Germany had a similar number, so one would think the competitive factor would be similar.
But once you have a handset, you cannot easily switch between these four carriers in the US but you can in Germany. The underlying argument from economic theory is that infrastructure based business have it easier to create a (natural) monopoly, unless access to the infrastructure is fairly easy. Ensuring that all cell phone providers use compatible technology thus reduces the potential for monopolies. Of course, basically no monopoly is absolute, how high the avoidance or switching costs are defining the strength of a monopoly.
There is a historical basis for this difference. When I traveled abroad in the 1970s and 80s, I was always shocked by the absolutely primitive landline phone service in Europe-- poor quality and far from universal availability. In 1973, over 99% of US households had phones. When cellular technology became available, it was a luxury in the US, but an absolute necessity pretty much everywhere else.
Well, my experience does not go back that far, but when I came to US for the first time in the 1990s, I was surprised by the horrible fixed line phone quality in some locations (those black telephones with the large rounded handsets).
 
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