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AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

andiwm2003 said:
Let's just take a second and think of the lay off's that we will see in the near future. There are T-Mobile shops and ATT shops right across the street from each other all over the US. Also a lot of administrative employees will suddenly find themself "redundant".

Usually Wallstreet will give soon an amout of savings due to "synergy" that they expect. Divide that by $200 000 and you have a good estimate how many people will be laid off.

My guess is that they will need to save 4-5 Billion given the size of the deal.

$5 000 000 000 / $ 200 000 = 25 000 future unemployed people.
A very rough estimate I admit and not all will get the boot this year but we talk about a lot of people here.
Ah, yeah, the savings usually don't go to the customer. It usually goes to the Banks and maybe the shareholders.
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which is more efficient -> that's what free enterprise does, drives itself to more efficiency. As weird as it sounds, layoffs and bankruptcies can have a positive impact on the economy. Think of it not as 25000 future unemployed people, but 25000 additional 'skilled' people into the pool, and some of them may become entrepreneurs outta this... who knows. just sayin.
 
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Maybe their network is bigger now and they won't have to impose this limits after all.
 
You need a legal dictionary then - even my Webster's has it as does the Mac OS X dictionary application. But point taken for the point you were making:

cite
noun
a citation.

verb [ trans. ] (often be cited)
1 quote (a passage, book, or author) as evidence for or justification of an argument or statement, esp. in a scholarly work.
• mention as an example : medics have been cited as a key example of a modern breed of technical expert.
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manu chao said:
I have yet to find a dictionary which contains the noun 'cite'. :rolleyes:
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My guess is that both 3G bands get used as more spectrum means more users per tower. I doubt t-mobile's backhaul warrants expanding 21 or 42 Mbps HSPA+ that t mobile has been touting. It will just help them expand their 14.4 Mbps coverage.

The big win here are the towers, the build time and insanity of getting permits is invaluable here. AT&T needs this going forward to have good LTE coverage to combat Verizon going forward.
 
E.Lizardo said:
My question is why WOULD they??
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The advantages from having a high speed data network of their own that could be built into every iOS and Mac device built would be staggering.

No worries about them changing data caps, no worries about bad CS from the carriers, it would be awesome in what could be achieved I think.
 
cvaldes said:
T-Mobile USA has a nice HSPA+ network. However, HSPA+ is not technically 4G, it's more like 3.5G. T-Mobile USA does not have any allocated spectrum for 4G (LTE or WiMax). They were in a bit of a quandary because of this.
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Correct, though I'd say HSPA+ should be called 3.75G and HSDPA 3.5G.
 
macsrcool1234 said:
All T-Mobile customers should expect a sharp decrease in call quality and sharp increase in dropped calls.
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Lmao. That's no exaggeration, I tried AT&T when the 4 came out and was so pissed at the "service", had to go back to Tmo quickly. Perhaps now the network will improve with more spectrum and towers.
 
jp102235 said:
which is more efficient -> that's what free enterprise does, drives itself to more efficiency. As weird as it sounds, layoffs and bankruptcies can have a positive impact on the economy. Think of it not as 25000 future unemployed people, but 25000 additional 'skilled' people into the pool, and some of them may become entrepreneurs outta this... who knows. just sayin.
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in the economy today that is just 25k more people drawing unemployment. It would not be a big deal if unemployment was at 4-5% but with it around 10% and average unemployed time over 6 months that is an issue.
 
As long as I don't have to pay more and get better reception with voice and data indoors, I'll be happy.
 
I want to know what this will have on the end user? Cheaper voice plans? Cheaper data plans? faster data?
 
mikeapple said:
Yeah because they were REALLY thinking that when they were competing with Verizon, Sprint, AND T-mobile

lets see

Cut off unlimited Data
Talks of cutting off unlimited Data for DSL
$40/m does NOT get you unlimited Nights and Weekends
and gunning after jailbreak tethering

Lets see when they become the only GSM carrier in the U.S.
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but verizon is also cutting off unlimited data (so att is leading the way), verizon plans traditionally cost more, and jailbreak tethering is like stealing to them so that means nothing
 
Finally.. about damn time!!

T-mobile service sucks dooky... I have the unlimited royalty plan for 49.99 plus 30 dollar unlimited internet service which they don't tell you goes to dial up type speed once you hit 5GB!

This is welcome news!
 
wordoflife said:
I want to know what this will have on the end user? Cheaper voice plans? Cheaper data plans? faster data?
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I imagine this is good for the AT&T folks and bad for T-Mobile. AT&T is horrible and drops calls, so now maybe with T-Mobile they'll get it right. T-Mobile people get the iPhone and a crappy network and subpar data rates.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
I really hope this is not approved. We need more cell carriers not fewer. Personally I almost feel that they need to be broken up some more. US is already lagging way behind in terms of price vs services. About the only country worse than us is Canada.
Sadly I see AT&T killing off T-Mobiles UMA offerings instead of expanding it. UMA is much MUCH better than the microcell crap.
On top of that it is bad things for Android because AT&T will just lock it down even more and T-Mobile has been fairly open to it. Plus increase cost all around.

This is bad and I really do not want it approved.
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Owning a network has been come increasingly more and more expensive. Those who aren't really ready to play, get dragged under. TMo USA is the latest victim. In the future, we'll probably see more MVNO outfits like the company that owns Net10 & Tracfone throw new brands, PAYG plans and phones to the market. Just not sure if they will bring full featured handsets to the market. If they don't, ATT and the other telco-dinos will plod on business as usual. Time will tell if ATT gets more hip after the Tmo purchase. My guess is probably not.
 
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