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Got this shipped to a US friend who sent it back to me. Got here tonight. And here's what I've got. :(

I'll wait it out a week, and if it's still the same, it's going back. Sigh. Are these yellow glue spots or backlight bleeds, in your opinion?

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Tested mine and oh no
What should I do?
My son actually pointed it out to me he is a very visual kid so I tested
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looks like mine almost wonder if all the bleeds are simular ?
 
looks like mine almost wonder if all the bleeds are simular ?

If you look in a lot of the pictures, the bleeding is occurring in the same spots. This points to this as being a production issue all the way. It's not random at all.
 
That's backlight bleeding out from behind the bezel. It's not going to go away. It's not going to get any better. It is, for all intents and purposes, what it is. Wait until this issue has been addressed before returning. Just contact AppleCare to get a ticket number and tell them you're waiting until they get this issue resolved.

Thanks for the advice. So far, it's not hindering my ability to use the iPad, but I'm sure I'll notice it more while watching a movie in the dark later.

So I just call them up and bring up backlight bleed, and that I want a ticket number? Seems straightforward. :)

looks like mine almost wonder if all the bleeds are simular ?

Looks like it.
 
made appointment for tomorrow and then for my son on Friday for a workshop
I got this to take with me on springbreak which we leave Saturday for so I am not leaving without an ipad2 I got up at 4am to order that thing so they better make me happy !
 
made appointment for tomorrow and then for my son on Friday for a workshop
I got this to take with me on springbreak which we leave Saturday for so I am not leaving without an ipad2 I got up at 4am to order that thing so they better make me happy !

Sorry to say but, you won't be getting a good one.
 
I have tried ignoring this issue, and dealing with it since launch day, but I have just come to the realization that it bugs me to no end, and I should in no way feel bad about that.

When I put this screen next to my iPad 1, there is a HUGE difference. It really is terrible

For someone to say " oh get over it and deal with it", is ignorant as hell because I payed 600 dollars for a device that is having screen issues the first generation didn't! Regardless of that, I should feel 100 percent satisfied with my purchase.

And the whole "you never will notice it" thing is bull. Honestly who does not sit sometimes or lay down and watch movies in the dark. Give me a break. I have two glaring lights on the side of the films I am watching. No thanks! Anyone who puts others down for continually exchanging their unit is an ass.

I LOVE apple. But this is ridiculous, and there is no way I am going to just bow down and settle on a 600 dollar device.

I ****ing hate that I have to return this thing, but there is no way I will settle for less than satisfied.

Thats my cool story for the day, bros.
 
Alright, so i have the same issues as everyone has described. Not as bad as some i have seen on this forum, but pretty bad none-the-less. Heres the thing, my dog chewed up my usb to ipad dock cable (doh!) and if i wanted to return it to target (where I purchased it), I doubt they would be willing to. Do you think that my only option is to get a replacement unit from the apple store? I have the receipt and everything, and I have other cables (cables that came with past iphones) that i could just pack with it if i were to try to return it to target). Obviously this wouldn't be the most honest thing to do, but at this point I wouldn't feel that bad after all the hell I have gone through to get this thing. Thoughts? Apple store? Call apple care and make a case and wait for problems to subside? Try to return to target with a different usb cable, (most employees wouldn't even notice at target)?
 
And the whole "you never will notice it" thing is bull. Honestly who does not sit sometimes or lay down and watch movies in the dark. Give me a break. I have two glaring lights on the side of the films I am watching. No thanks! Anyone who puts others down for continually exchanging their unit is an ass.

Yours sounds much worse than mine, I don't notice much bleeding watching videos in the dark (just a tiny bit) and I don't notice at all if I have the reading lamp next to the bed on which is what I always do as the iPad screen kills my eyes in the dark.

That said, it's also moot for me as I have no interest in watching movies, tv shows etc. on the tiny iPad screen. I'd rather wait until I can watch them on my 50" HDTV. I just watched a little Netflix goofing around to try it out and see if I noticed bleeding in bed the other night.

But you should absolutely not tolerate it as it is bothering you in normal usage. The only people I or others have said should ignore it are those who are like me and don't notice it at all during our normal usages of the device as we lucked out and got very minor bleeding and don't use our devices in the dark anyway.

Mine just mainly gets used on the couch and in my office and primarily for surfing the net, reading PDFs and reading news articles--all full screen, bright content where bleeding isn't an issue really, especially given my bleeding is very minor compared to a lot of the pictures here.

But yours sounds worse and you're noticing it while watching video so you should buy all means exchange it or just return it and give up for now if you can't find one that doesn't have noticeable bleed.

No one should keep a gadget they aren't satisfied with--especially at these prices. I'm keeping mine as I'm satisfied with it as the bleeding flaw isn't affecting me thankfully. For those of you who are being bothered by it, you absolutely shouldn't settle and should exchange or return.
 
Exactly. Everyone has different uses, and for me, it is a problem.

Im not even trying to act like anyone cares about me, as many others have the problem. I just was getting really bothered by the people telling others to forget about it, or just get over it and stop being anal.

I guess it is easy to tell others what to do or think they are overreacting when it is not your money that is in question.
 
Just to clarify, isn't a small amount of bleeding normal if you turn the backlight all the way up? I think there may be confusion among those that have a legitimate screen bleed problem and those that may be seeing a problem that's not there.

I didn't notice anything until I turned the light all the way up, and now when I dim the brightness I still perceive it.

I say perceive because we can start to perceive things through our vision based on expectations, its why we are able to see colors in dim light even though biologically it should be improbable.

are some almost white at the bottom, compared to just lighter?
 
I'm a plasma guy so I may not know everything about LCD tech but I have a low end Sony in my bedroom and there is no light bleed. Are you talking about clouds or flashlight issues? I shoot video and there is nothing more annoying than a nice white pixel in a scene. If someone pays big bucks for a dslr they should have no dead or stuck pixels. Good for them for checking.

Again the fact that some of you will dismiss this issue as an enjoy it or screw philosophy blows my mind.

You simply don't understand the technology, that's the problem plain and simple. iPad LED/LCD panels use the Edge backlight method so that the iPad can be reduced in thickness. So a series of LED backlights are placed along the edges of the screen, and the thin light is dispersed across the screen from those points. The disadvantages to using this system is black levels are not as deep as they could be, the possibility of uneven lighting across the screen, especially towards the middle, and you could experience light leakage on the side areas where the backlights are placed. If you wanted close to zero or no light leakage, Apple could use a full array backlighting method, where several rows of LED's are placed behind the entire surface of the screen. However these full array panels are more expensive, and limit how thin the device can be. Sony and Samsung LCD panels are no different.

So it has nothing to do with dismissing an issue. It has to do with the limitations of the current LCD technology used combined with how much Apple wants to spend to bring this device to market. Now perhaps Apple should place a disclaimer on their product that all screens may exhibit some imperfections. LCD television manufacturers do it in terms of dead pixel count. Either way, you are looking for perfection where it rarely exists. You can return iPads until the cows come home, and you will most likely still be unsatisfied.
 
My iPod Touch is even thinner and exhibits zero backlight bleed. It is not inherent to LED LCD technology.
 
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So if I return mine with backlight bleeding, shouldn't they have some in brown boxes for returns and possibly get the model that I really want?
 
My iPod Touch is even thinner and exhibits zero backlight bleed. It is not inherent to LED LCD technology.

Then consider yourself lucky. Never said it wasn't possible, but the technology is what it is. Doesn't take much of a search to find many on the net with the same light leakage on ANY LCD product backlit with this method, that includes the iPod Touch. Perform some due diligence and look it up for yourself, or remain clueless, matters squat to me.
 
So if I return mine with backlight bleeding, shouldn't they have some in brown boxes for returns and possibly get the model that I really want?

Yes, if they agree to a return, chances are they have non-retail iPads in the back for exchanges.
 
If you look in a lot of the pictures, the bleeding is occurring in the same spots. This points to this as being a production issue all the way. It's not random at all.

lol...of course they are not random. This is called Edge Lighting. Lights are placed in flxed positions down the side of the screen to light the panel. ALL iPads will look identical. Some lights may not put out as much as the others making them less noticeable, but they are there. Panel pressures could also accentuate the issue.

Had Apple placed in an array backlighting system, you'd be complaining about the greater thickness of the product and a couple hundred higher in price.
 
I just tried the black screen test on my original iPad, and it failed, I guess. I have been using and enjoying it for a year with no issue. I saved an all white screenshot as well as an all black one and swiped over just to see how bright the screen was compared to the bleed brightness to give it perspective. IMO if you have to turn out the lights and do the black screen test to see a problem you don't have a very big problem. If it bothers you to know that it will fail you the one day you that may need it to display a perfectly black screen, at full brightness, while sitting in the darkest of rooms, then you may need to get a refund and move on with your life. Whether you have a legitimate problem or are unhappy just because you expect more, Apple will refund your money or give you an exchange, problem solved.
 
You simply don't understand the technology, that's the problem plain and simple. iPad LED/LCD panels use the Edge backlight method so that the iPad can be reduced in thickness. So a series of LED backlights are placed along the edges of the screen, and the thin light is dispersed across the screen from those points. The disadvantages to using this system is black levels are not as deep as they could be, the possibility of uneven lighting across the screen, especially towards the middle, and you could experience light leakage on the side areas where the backlights are placed. If you wanted close to zero or no light leakage, Apple could use a full array backlighting method, where several rows of LED's are placed behind the entire surface of the screen. However these full array panels are more expensive, and limit how thin the device can be. Sony and Samsung LCD panels are no different.

So it has nothing to do with dismissing an issue. It has to do with the limitations of the current LCD technology used combined with how much Apple wants to spend to bring this device to market. Now perhaps Apple should place a disclaimer on their product that all screens may exhibit some imperfections. LCD television manufacturers do it in terms of dead pixel count. Either way, you are looking for perfection where it rarely exists. You can return iPads until the cows come home, and you will most likely still be unsatisfied.

Ok thanks for the explanation. Like I said I'm a plasma guy and I don't have much experience with LCD. Black levels are important and I've yet to see an LCD (haven't seen a true LED yet) that I could live with in my home theater. Are you telling me that those very thin edge lit LCD TVs suffer from this same issue?

I really never expected my LCD iPad 2 to knock me out in black level performance but never did I imagine such an issue as light leak. Cloudy uneven blacks I'm ok with in the sense that it's something I've come to expect from an LCD.
 
Was going to return my iPad, but when I did this test on the cheap laptop and my 2008 MacBook pro, , found all of them had some sort of screen bleed. Also got rough an tv episode without noticing, so I'm keeping it.

Also it's not nearly as bad as some of the photos I've seen
 
This is why I bought a full back lit Samsung 55 8500

No bleed and darker blacks than any plasma

Course it was a bit more that $600
 
If you are the slightest bit bothered or unhappy, I think you should return or exchange or otherwise quality control might get worse if Apple thinks its consumers will allow it.
 
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