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Backlight bleeding

gtscode said:
Swapped mine at the Apple Store on Sunday.

They were very busy but awesome no problem on the swap gave me a 64 gig black brand new in box. Kudos to the Genius who couldn't have been nicer.

Backlight bleed which was very bad on the first one this one might actually be worse or identical.

This one did have less scratches and nicks in the bezel but the home button is off a bit, a little high you can catch it with your nail. I am keeping this one and would actually have taken the first one back but didn't want to cause a fuss.

I think this is a live with it kind of situation! :rolleyes:
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This is exactly why I am considering buying the iPad 1 (64GB 3G for $529).. Returned 2 myself due to significant light-leak, dust under the screen and screen on one of them looked to be close to separating.
 
Swapped three iPads and each had terrible backlight bleeding. Two had yellow blotches that were visible at 0% (yes, 0%) brightness.

Pulled my iPad 1 sale and am very happy with my Gen 1 despite the speed/camera differences.

Done with iPad 2.
 
iPad #3 for me seems to be the lucky number. Bleeding only apparent at 80-100 percent brightness and even then it's minor. At the setting I keep at it's not visible. I have noticed that some of the light leakage (especially the one over to the right of the home button) has diminished quite a bit since the day I got this replacement.
 
My first replacement should come this week. As to this talk of being fed up with the 2 and going back to the 1 or waiting for the 3, I just want to say that couldn't be happier with my decision to buy an iPad 2 on launch day. This is because a) Apple is not denying there is a problem, so I have faith they'll find me an acceptable unit; b) I expect the iPad 3's improvements to be marginal in terms of performance and form factor, even if it does include a "retina display" and even in the unlikely event it comes before Christmas; c) the iPad 2 is totally freakin' awesome.
 
spblat said:
My first replacement should come this week. As to this talk of being fed up with the 2 and going back to the 1 or waiting for the 3, I just want to say that couldn't be happier with my decision to buy an iPad 2 on launch day. This is because a) Apple is not denying there is a problem, so I have faith they'll find me an acceptable unit; b) I expect the iPad 3's improvements to be marginal in terms of performance and form factor, even if it does include a "retina display" and even in the unlikely event it comes before Christmas; c) the iPad 2 is totally freakin' awesome.
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Apple doesn't deny a problem because they don't admit publicly that anyone says there is a problem. :)

They will be nice to you on a case by case basis, Apple is great about that. However, one will likely have to end up with some backlight bleed unless you're very lucky.

I agree it's very awesome device otherwise.
 
powerbook911 said:
Apple doesn't deny a problem because they don't admit publicly that anyone says there is a problem. :)

They will be nice to you on a case by case basis, Apple is great about that. However, one will likely have to end up with some backlight bleed unless you're very lucky.

I agree it's very awesome device otherwise.
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Agree 100%. Awesome device.
Agree 100% that for at least a month or so chances of getting an iPad 2 with light-leak is high, greater than 75% in my completely unprofessional opinion.
Agree 100% Apple is handling this, case by case from what I can tell, like champs.

Yes, I can go buy a $900 64GB 3G iPad 2 and at SOME point it's highly likely I will get one without light-leak, no dust under my screen or nicks in the case... but is that what we are paying a premium for?

Still completely undecided on whether I'm going the risk-it route with the iPad 2 or save some cash and wait for iPad 3 route with a $529 64GB 3G iPad 1. I guess it's good the store manager hasn't called yet.
 
JM2-uk said:
None of this justifies why my ipad 1 had no bleed and my ipad 2 did. I saw *many* ipad 1s. I saw many ipad 2s. The 2s had bleed. The 1s did not.

It does not have to be like this :D
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I agree with you. Obviously, the screen is different in the original iPads, or the way it is installed is different.

I don't think it should be this way at all. However, because 99.9 percent of people won't care, Apple will unlikely make it a top priority.

I'm always amazed, something like the antenna gate made the press. I never had a problem with iPhone 4 antenna. Sure, I can make the signal drop, but it's just part of the phone's design. To me, these display issues are much more significant to users who are annoyed by it, but yet, you don't hear a bit about it on the news.
 
PBz said:
Agree 100%. Awesome device.
Agree 100% that for at least a month or so chances of getting an iPad 2 with light-leak is high, greater than 75% in my completely unprofessional opinion.
Agree 100% Apple is handling this, case by case from what I can tell, like champs.

Yes, I can go buy a $900 64GB 3G iPad 2 and at SOME point it's highly likely I will get one without light-leak, no dust under my screen or nicks in the case... but is that what we are paying a premium for?

Still completely undecided on whether I'm going the risk-it route with the iPad 2 or save some cash and wait for iPad 3 route with a $529 64GB 3G iPad 1. I guess it's good the store manager hasn't called yet.
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I agree with you too. I honestly don't know exactly where I stand on this.

I have an original iPad. It's still a fantastic product. Wish I had 3G in it, but I suppose I can keep getting by. iPad 2 is a step up in other ways, but pay $900 for something that has a screen inferior to my original iPad? Not so sure.

iPad 3 might be a good option, but I hope it's not a year away! I'd prefer iPad 2 Retina in the fall. Sure wish it would happen.
 
powerbook911 said:
I agree with you too. I honestly don't know exactly where I stand on this.

I have an original iPad. It's still a fantastic product. Wish I had 3G in it, but I suppose I can keep getting by. iPad 2 is a step up in other ways, but pay $900 for something that has a screen inferior to my original iPad? Not so sure.

iPad 3 might be a good option, but I hope it's not a year away! I'd prefer iPad 2 Retina in the fall. Sure wish it would happen.
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If I thought iPad 2 with retina was a possibility in 2011 I would go iPad 1. I just personally don't think it will be this year. I could be wrong as I was wrong when I said iPhone 4 wouldn't be at Verizon until it was LTE. I thought no way Verizon goes with a handicapped iPhone 4 only to likely launch an LTE version within a year and TRULY tick off all the early Verizon iPhone 4 adopters. but whadda I know.. ? :)
 
JM2-uk said:
None of this justifies why my ipad 1 had no bleed and my ipad 2 did. I saw *many* ipad 1s. I saw many ipad 2s. The 2s had bleed. The 1s did not.

It does not have to be like this :D
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I had 8 ipad 1's, and they ALL had light bleed. Finally settled on one that had very little, but it still existed. Just do a search on the net, and you'll find the same conversations going on all over again with the iPad 2.

I have to laugh at all of these people exchanging over and over again, like I did before I might add, and expecting some kind of different result. Edge lit panels are this way by way of their technology and assembly. There is no way around it. If you can't live with it, then just DON'T BUY ONE. These panels are used for two reasons, cost and form factor, and most likely, won't be changing anytime soon. The majority of iPad 2 purchasers have no idea what light bleed is and are happy with their purchase.

Try going over to the Samsung, Sony, or LG television panel forums. In the quest for having the thinnest television on the wall these days, they are having the exact same issues, and have been for years, as the iPad 2 is having. Why does everyone think that this technology for the iPad 2 is any different??

Realistically, you watch movies in the dark how often, maybe 3-5% of the time at best? I get the whole, "I want a perfect screen no matter what I'm doing as I've paid good money for this thing" bit, but at the end of the day, this expectation of perfection is based more on principle than it is functionality. And because the technology used is limited, its just a moot argument anyway.

Would you rather have a screen that has little to no light bleed and thicker, but another $200 in cost? Honestly, I probably would, but I don't see Apple giving up this price point, as they have the competitors by the short hairs.
 
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If edge lit panels are all like this, how come some are far far better than others?

And of the bad ones, the bright spots are in totally random places and random amounts around the screen?

Oh, and I watch movies in the dark (very VERY dim lighting) around 99.9% of the time.
 
Piggie said:
If edge lit panels are all like this, how come some are far far better than others?

And of the bad ones, the bright spots are in totally random places and random amounts around the screen?

Oh, and I watch movies in the dark (very VERY dim lighting) around 99.9% of the time.
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... and to expand on this why are Apple employees, even managers, giving grimaced looks when they hear about it and doing all they can to exchange as quickly as possible? I don't think EITHER of my iPad 2s were even looked at by anyone. Apple knows there is an issue and has a specific strategy to deal with it. Outside of not digging that I have had two jacked iPad 2s I think their strategy is brilliant. They know x% will never notice, y% will and won't care or come here and post and the the % that is ticked will be treated very well. The service I have had on my issues has been amazing.. wish the product matched the service.
 
I'm seriously considering replacing mine tomorrow. It has some serious bleed that I can see even on 80% brightness in a dark room.

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I know it's dark now, but when watching movies in daylight I can easily see the bleed.

Also, it has a dead pixel right above the home button.

Would you suggest me to wait a few more weeks, or should I do it tomorrow and use my 14-day return?

It's just bugging me that I will have to wait 1-2 weeks until I get the replacement, and if it's not even better regarding the bleed, it's not really worth it (as I can get it replaced anytime because of the dead pixel).

What do you think guys?
 
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jafingi said:
I'm seriously considering replacing mine tomorrow. It has some serious bleed that I can see even on 80% brightness in a dark room.

I know it's dark now, but when watching movies in daylight I can easily see the bleed.

Also, it has a dead pixel right above the home button.

Would you suggest me to wait a few more weeks, or should I do it tomorrow and use my 14-day return?

It's just bugging me that I will have to wait 1-2 weeks until I get the replacement, and if it's not even better regarding the bleed, it's not really worth it (as I can get it replaced anytime because of the dead pixel).

What do you think guys?
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Just that one leak (HUGE) would be enough for me to return within the 14-day period.. bad pixel would be icing on the cake. My screens were like yours with two of the large bleed areas plus about 6 smaller ones. The big ones were immediately visible in Netflix or empty (when it was new) photo area. Very unfortunate that you have to wait. If it makes you feel any better I have 4 Apple Stores pretty close and I think they are still consistently sold out.. although they sometimes have stock set aside for exchanges.
 
I saw 100s of ipad 1s and 100s of ipad 2s. Ipad ones did not have this sort of problem across the board, despite what cmvsm types. I have seen 100s of these.
 
How interesting that with all this real-world evidence the Apple apologists over on the News forum of MR (the thread about the new Apple ad where I stated that I wished Apple paid more attention to fixing the iPad 2 quality control issues) attacked me with their typical, "Prove it...Have you seen 100s of iPads with lightbleed...You don't know what you are talking about...You are an idiot...You are a troll...Have you done a scientific survey...blah..blah...blah" drivel.

I firmly believe that more than a few of them over there...who were quick to jump to the defense of Apple, stating that THEIR iPads were perfect...no light bleed or blemishes...NEED to believe that they have one of the perfect ones. Somehow it makes them feel better about themselves to think how divine intervention has recognized their greatness and bestowed upon them the perfect iPad while the rest of us mere mortals have proven and documented problems with ours.
 
Built said:
How interesting that with all this real-world evidence the Apple apologists over on the News forum of MR (the thread about the new Apple ad where I stated that I wished Apple paid more attention to fixing the iPad 2 quality control issues) attacked me with their typical, "Prove it...Have you seen 100s of iPads with lightbleed...You don't know what you are talking about...You are an idiot...You are a troll...Have you done a scientific survey...blah..blah...blah" drivel.

I firmly believe that more than a few of them over there...who were quick to jump to the defense of Apple, stating that THEIR iPads were perfect...no light bleed or blemishes...NEED to believe that they have one of the perfect ones. Somehow it makes them feel better about themselves to think how divine intervention has recognized their greatness and bestowed upon them the perfect iPad while the rest of us mere mortals have proven and documented problems with ours.
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That's a pretty big problem. When you have cult like followers, you can get away with a lot.

I'm beholden to nobody, not google, not apple, not microsoft. Whoever gives me a shoddy product, i take my money elsewhere. Which is why i'm holding off on buying a tablet from any vendor yet.
 
and how many units are afflicted by the bleeding? How likely is Apple to replace one that is affected?
I'm starting to seriously consider buying one of these puppies now so I'm paying more attention to this issue. I do NOT want those spots on my screen. Would getting one a month or two from now still have the backlight bleeding?
 
Flake said:
and how many units are afflicted by the bleeding? How likely is Apple to replace one that is affected?
I'm starting to seriously consider buying one of these puppies now so I'm paying more attention to this issue. I do NOT want those spots on my screen. Would getting one a month or two from now still have the backlight bleeding?
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None of us really know - but I can tell you that it is *very* likely you will have this problem if you buy now.

Like I say, I have seen 100s of these :(
 
Here is mine... I was planning to change it this week... But after seen that some of the pictures here are actually even worse than mine...
You can even see mine at 0% brightness...
What do you think?
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( this is at 100% )
 
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This is MOST DEFINITELY an issue that Apple needs to address without delay. I bought one of the 16GB wifi white models on launch day after waiting 6hrs in line and it had pronounced light leakage from all four sides. Returned it TWICE more and each time the problem became worse. Got fed up with the BS after exchanging it a fourth time and ended up selling it on ebay. Three weeks later bought a black 32GB WIFI model and, while the problem still exists, it is at least to some degree tolerable. Hopefully Apple mans up to this issue and corrects it in due time.
 
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