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Backlight bleeding
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It's obvious at this point that getting a unit without backlight bleed is possible but entirely a matter of luck. I'm just curious; why do some units exhibit this to such a great degree while others are essentially free of it? What could differ so much in the manufacturing to cause units to be so dramatically different? Aren't these things assembled by robots?
Will take longer than with HP, Sony and Mercedes-Benz.
Not one person I watched today in the Apple store were inspecting the build quality. The masses are lapping it up and consumers just expect - and put up with - crap these days.
Take ISP's, for example. As long as the masses can measure 50Mbps they'll ignore the 60% packet loss. Mass appeal = morons = crap.
I've read somewhere that Apple's found the manufacturing defect that's causing the backlight bleeding and are fixing it and soon units will ship without it, anyone know if it's true? or will this turn out to be like the iPhone 4's antenna issue, with no real fix ever being made..
Honestly I don't know if Apple will fix the problem but I was having mine looked at by a genius yesterday and he said they would swap it out but they didn't have any replacement unitsband would need to order one. He said that they had gotten a large shipment of replacements but had to send them back. That might mean nothing or it could mean that Apple is trying to fix something. I am holding out on switching mine out until I am sure that I will actually get a better one. That may be a iPad 3
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it might've just been this
http://www.cultofmac.com/if-your-ipad-2-has-display-problems-do-not-return-it-heres-why/87197
I'd take it with a grain of salt
Most likely its a part of it. The pressure around the screen edges make it more prominent. But this is a part of the entire issue with LCD screens no matter what kind of device you are dealing with. Anyone who says that they have an LCD television with no backlight bleed or flashlighting is full of it. It exists to a degree in all LCD devices due to the panel and manufacturing methods. I think there are probably more complaints about backlight bleed on the iPad because you are closer and intimate with the device. You don't sit 10" away from an LCD television to watch it.
This DID exist on the iPad 1, as I know from first hand. Not sure why there are those holding up the iPad 1 as an example of perfection, because it was no where near close. There were the same complaints then too, but it didn't stop Apple from selling millions, just like the iPad 2. The iPad 3 will be no different, unless they can go to a different panel with the retina display. Probably will pay more for it, then everyone will complain about that as well.
I have a tiny bit of edge bleeding on mine, but its not visible through normal usage. I suspect its the same for everyone to an extent, although I have seen some extreme examples on here that would warrant a return. The majority of it is blown out of proportion.
Completely disagree. I am in the trade. LCDs have this all boxed off now. I deal with a lot of LCD gear. Very simply, you are wrong.
More specifically I have dealt with a *LOT* of ipad 1s without this type of issue. I have dealt with a *LOT* of Ipad 2s with this issue.
I also deal with a lot of *OTHER* LCD based equipment. It is not like what we are seeing here.
Don't bother... this guy won't listen to anyone who isn't on his camp of thought... even though his information is completely false. I've addressed his false tech details in regards to his "facts" about edge/backlit lcds and he just ignores them... while continuing to spout the same garbage.
I have 2 edgelit LCD's at home that exhibit zero bleeding (Sony 60inch NX810 and 55inch HX800) while an older backlit CCFL LCD in the bedroom has tons of bleeding. My brother's full array back lit LED LCD has some bleeding (Sony HX909) and that is supposed to be the creme of the crop of 2010.
It is NOT inherent in the LCD technology, either back or edge lit. It all boils down to product design and manufacturing tolerances.
Got mine replaced yesterday.
This is the original:
And this is the replacement:
To be honest the replacement actually looks a lot better in real life than it does in that photo and it is certainly an improvement over the first (even though it may not look it in the photos!). This still might be going back depending on how much it annoys me in the coming days.
Both photos are in a dark room on 100% brightness, the only things really visible in the replacement on my normal brightness setting (about 50%) are the two corners on the left hand side.
This is the original:
And this is the replacement:
To be honest the replacement actually looks a lot better in real life than it does in that photo and it is certainly an improvement over the first (even though it may not look it in the photos!). This still might be going back depending on how much it annoys me in the coming days.
Both photos are in a dark room on 100% brightness, the only things really visible in the replacement on my normal brightness setting (about 50%) are the two corners on the left hand side.
I agree with apple QC being completely crap, however they have awesome customer service. Applestores are pretty helpful, and they stand by there product and do replacements.
My Macbook Pro was crap, and they gave me a new one 2 years in. I was pretty happy.
I honestly dont know what is worse the backlight bleeding or the camera, I am unsure maybe my camera is broke its just all grainy. Its just poo.
You did huh? I must have missed those 'facts' that you threw out. Oh wait, you mean the post where you take the iPad 2 into the Apple Store bathroom a couple hundred times? Now there's some sound testing and logic. Thanks for playing.
Well, being a 'professional' as you claim to be in the industry, please show me some facts that discounts what I'm saying. I can show you plenty of instances of back light bleed on the net from just about any device you care to mention. I have dealt with a *LOT* of iPad 1's (8 to be exact) with the same issue that carried over into this generation. You are only proving my point.
So if I am dead wrong, shouldn't be too hard to prove your point being in the industry and all. So let's see it.
some food for thought...you bought the iPad 1 which had similar issues and exchanged it 8 times before settling with the fact (your words) that its always going to be there...then somewhere down the timeline people stopped complaining about it and started getting better looking screens...ok stay with me here, could it be possible that they may have fixed the defects they were having on the first couple of "batches"? Meaning they've (apple) known about the issue but instead of recalling the many sold, just quietly deal with the people who have exchanged many times and stay mum about the whole fiasco. And couldn't we possibly be seeing the same thing here? First couple of weeks there are issues, then as time goes by those issues get flattened out? I don't know. Maybe I'm just looking into it too much. I'm not trying to argue here, but its a big push and pull we've got going on. Obviously some screens better than others and in some instances I've seen no screen bleed at all, so it's definitely a coin toss as to what you get. People always say don't buy first gen apple, but this whole thing is proving that you shouldnt be first in line for apple products no matter the generation. sad really, i remember when their ipods were built like tanks...monochrome display...awesome.
As it seems that we are now starting to see SOME good screens among the bad, wouldn't it be good for those who have already 'taken the plunge' (with either result) to post the serial/batch numbers for everybody's good going forward, including 'the rest of us'?
My serial number is DLXFH7NF----. (just redacted the last 4 values
)I was just on a marathon call to the apple support and they were really nice people... first I spoke to a local Brissy guy who then transferred me to his supervisor (sounds like in Singapore -- again like my iMac ordeal), who then transferred me to their after sales support to arrange a pick up date.
But the problem is that I'll be waiting for another 3 weeks for the replacement to arrive... this is horrible.
When I say a lot, I do not mean 8
8 FFS.
You either believe or you don't
Most of the rational people on this forum have eyes.
I guess like many internet boys, you need someone to hold your hand also.
Here you go: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/12241245/
The post was completely ignored of course. Thank you try again.
And please... stop with the whole "it's a LCD problem" because it's not. What you are saying is simply not true and you have no proof. Whats even more ridiculous is there are millions of LCD's with no bleeding... edge lit or not. How you even begin to imagine up a theory such as "all lcds have this" to defend Apple like a blind fanboy is beyond me. Many others have already been telling you the same thing. BUT... let me just make it clear for you again: NOT ALL LCD's DISPLAY BLEEDING/FLASHLIGHTING.
This bleeding issue is ridiculous. This just adds the need to go AMOLED and this issue will never occur.
Man u guys are a little ocd. For the record my 2 iPads do not have the bleeding and I ordered online on march 11th
My replacement iPad 2 exhibits from the same back light issue with the addition of a mis-aligned home button cutout thrown in for good measure!