I believe it's a hardware issue, not a software issue. A lot less backlight bleed on the iPad 1's because of the brackets holding the LCD rather than glue for the iPad 2's LCD. Glue = thinner but more prone to uniformity issues. It's a trade-off. I'm sure the Apple's or Supplier's engineers are working on this issue. I just put in an order in for an iPad 2 myself. I don't mind the delay if it is because they are improving the production process for the screens that I've been reading about. To me the iPad is a nice to have item, rather than a must have like my Macbook.
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I believe it's a hardware issue, not a software issue. A lot less backlight bleed on the iPad 1's because of the brackets holding the LCD rather than glue for the iPad 2's LCD. Glue = thinner but more prone to uniformity issues. It's a trade-off. I'm sure the Apple's or Supplier's engineers are working on this issue. I just put in an order in for an iPad 2 myself. I don't mind the delay if it is because they are improving the production process for the screens that I've been reading about. To me the iPad is a nice to have item, rather than a must have like my Macbook.
We've been here many times before. Simply nonsense. Look back in the thread to save your effort and our typing fingers.
Im not the one that needs to look back on any thread. I've been here since the beginning. Im tired of hearing stop turning your brightness all the way to 100% blah blah blah
I sit on a train 3 hours a day and watch movies with my brightness set at 50% and replicate the issue. I can also replicate the issue at 0% brightness. Im not happy with something I just dropped 800 bucks on and I will have mine swapped under AppleCare for this issue at some point.
If you do not have any issues with your ipad or you believe this is acceptable then move on with your life and let us discuss this without annoyance.
I am hoping so much that mine doesn't do this. It's going to be used at least 3 hours a day on the train for reading and watching movies/tv shows. It will probably replace my iPhone for everything but the phone/text part. A little light bleed won't bother me, but I hope it's not as bad as some of the pictures I've seen.
I guess I'll find out Monday.
I guess I'll find out Monday.
Had a 32gb white Verizon and it had a little bleed. Returned it for an Att model, just black, bleed was horrible. Took it back and got a white att 32 gb and it's perfect, no bleed whatsoever. The screen actually looks a little warmer regardless of the brightness.
I have to think some of this has to do with the "manufacturing issues" that Apple has talked about in the past couple of days at their quarterly earnings. If I have had to wait for my iPad 2 because they were fixing stuff, then I couldn't be happier.
It looks like a huge chunk of backordered iPad 2's shipped in the last couple of days, so I bet they had to work out some kinks and then ramped up production again.
I don't know if this is bleeding as well...but when my screen in completely white, i can see two small but visible white dots...anybody else have this?
You can say this as many times as you want, but that does not make it true. My Samsung 244T monitor has zero backlight bleed. My Samsung TV also has none. My original iPad has none. My iPhone 4 has none. Even my Dell monitor at work has none.
done and done, what else should we do, oh smart and powerful, know-it-all being? What else?
i play my psp, ds, dsi, motorola q, dell axim, sony vaio, samsung lnt4071, samsung 750, archos tab, sony sz, sony xbr, and so on and so forth at usable lengths, whether it be day or night, brightness high or low, lights on or off, max or not, and i don't SEE ANY BLEED. If you're okay with a bunch of defective crap, I've got a closet full of broken gadgets I'm willing to sell you for full price...scratch that, they're mostly broken ipods. i'll still sell them to you for full price though.
wait why am i arguing...i returned it, i'm just waiting to see if it gets any better...by the sounds of it, its still a crap shoot, i'll wait for iPad 3.
Update:
There may be some hope...............
This thread here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1141104/
One fellow Macrumours posters has stated, (post #22) in regards to backlight bleeding:
"None of the 1000 I've used so far have had anything like that, no bleeds or 'nothin! They seem just like the 1's screens in all colors and brightnesses. It sounds like I may be very lucky
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And another poster, on the next page ( Post #37) has also said:
"I also work in the tech area in my school. Our university has purchased hundreds that I handle daily and I haven't noticed an issue either."
So, two posters saying they have handles literally hundred and hundreds of iPad2's and not one of them have had these issues.
Personally I don't believe these claims, but that's only my opinion.
Perhaps these posters might be contacted to find out where these iPad's were supplied from and what dates they have on them?
A new batch perhaps, esp if there are many 100's of them that have no issues as these posters claim.
There may be some hope...............
This thread here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1141104/
One fellow Macrumours posters has stated, (post #22) in regards to backlight bleeding:
"None of the 1000 I've used so far have had anything like that, no bleeds or 'nothin! They seem just like the 1's screens in all colors and brightnesses. It sounds like I may be very lucky
"And another poster, on the next page ( Post #37) has also said:
"I also work in the tech area in my school. Our university has purchased hundreds that I handle daily and I haven't noticed an issue either."
So, two posters saying they have handles literally hundred and hundreds of iPad2's and not one of them have had these issues.
Personally I don't believe these claims, but that's only my opinion.
Perhaps these posters might be contacted to find out where these iPad's were supplied from and what dates they have on them?
A new batch perhaps, esp if there are many 100's of them that have no issues as these posters claim.
Feel free to post screen pics of any device you just mentioned, and the light bleed masters on this forum will find some...guaranteed.
At least you grew a brain and stopped exchanging them. Can't say that there will be any difference between the iPad 1/iPad 2 or iPad 3, but at least you'll stop complaining for a bit. I'd venture to say that was the wish of the last Apple store you encountered as well.
If you don't own an iPad, why are you still on this forum? Based on your frequent visitation to the Apple store, and your constant wandering on this forum, your time is worth zero.
Update:
There may be some hope...............
This thread here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1141104/
One fellow Macrumours posters has stated, (post #22) in regards to backlight bleeding:
"None of the 1000 I've used so far have had anything like that, no bleeds or 'nothin! They seem just like the 1's screens in all colors and brightnesses. It sounds like I may be very lucky
And another poster, on the next page ( Post #37) has also said:
"I also work in the tech area in my school. Our university has purchased hundreds that I handle daily and I haven't noticed an issue either."
So, two posters saying they have handles literally hundred and hundreds of iPad2's and not one of them have had these issues.
Personally I don't believe these claims, but that's only my opinion.
Perhaps these posters might be contacted to find out where these iPad's were supplied from and what dates they have on them?
A new batch perhaps, esp if there are many 100's of them that have no issues as these posters claim.
Go pick up the next one that pops up at the Apple, Target, or Walmart stores. I'll bet you money that nothing has changed.
My mistake. I re-read your initial comment. I thought you were from the pro bleed camp and that all us BLB complainers were in the wrong.
Now I have re-read your comment I see the side you are on, ignore my last comment and if you look back in this very thread, you will see my stance on the problem.
I am the fellow that has seen a great deal of these devices (ipad 2) and the screens generally, have been awful. Ultimately, Apple will wake up and realise this.
Some weapons grade comment there for sure
But we must remember, this is the fellow that saw a lot of ipads.... was it 8 I remember NP.... I'm just very frustrated. I could of spent 200 more and got a MacBook air. Don't get me wrong I love this thing. But my true intention was to carry around for movies and Netflix while on the train. Well the effect is ruined by the white spots you see even with very minimal brightness.
I'm trying to get AppleCare to send me a replacement, they want to put a 729 dollar hold on my CC to do so.
My iPad has it really bad. It's all along the sides and in the four corners. If I take it into the store will they replace it?
They probably will. When I went in with mine the genius saw it right away and said they would replace it but they didn't have any and they needed to order one. They ended up calling me back two days later saying that it was going to take longer than anticipated to get a replacement and to come in and they would exchange it from their retail stock. The new one has bleed but even at 100% brightness it is hardly noticeable and is better than my first unit.
I just got mine and its got the bleed. Its more noticeable on one corner. I got two ipads at the same time (one for my wife) and hers is not as bad.
But, honestly, I can only see it on a black screen. When watching a movie with black bars on top I can see it if I look hard enough. I consider myself somewhat anal retentive and I just don't see what the fuss is about.
What I can say is that having used the Xoom for almost 2 months and now using the iPad 2, the Xoom screen looks much better. The form factor seemed odd at first but I now got used to landscape, there is zero bleed and the higher rez does make a difference.
Infinity Blade on the iPad 2 looks AMAZING though. Killer app.
But, honestly, I can only see it on a black screen. When watching a movie with black bars on top I can see it if I look hard enough. I consider myself somewhat anal retentive and I just don't see what the fuss is about.
What I can say is that having used the Xoom for almost 2 months and now using the iPad 2, the Xoom screen looks much better. The form factor seemed odd at first but I now got used to landscape, there is zero bleed and the higher rez does make a difference.
Infinity Blade on the iPad 2 looks AMAZING though. Killer app.
Third time was a charm.
Picked up my 64gb 3G from the Trafford Centre (Manchester, UK) earlier today and this one is good.
With the screen at 100% and in a dark room it looks good. I have to really really look to see anything. It looks better (or equal too) my MacBook Pro screen.
The first one had it pretty bad, second one not as bad (waited 8 days for it) and the third one (which I'm keeping) took about 3 days to get here.
Picked up my 64gb 3G from the Trafford Centre (Manchester, UK) earlier today and this one is good.
With the screen at 100% and in a dark room it looks good. I have to really really look to see anything. It looks better (or equal too) my MacBook Pro screen.
The first one had it pretty bad, second one not as bad (waited 8 days for it) and the third one (which I'm keeping) took about 3 days to get here.
If you see it during normal use, then obviously you have a problem. I think he was trying to refer to the guys that have zero light bleed except at 100% brightness, black screen, sittin in a dark closet.
It's hardly noticeable at 100%, is it noticeable at all at normal brightness levels.
I just got mine and its got the bleed. Its more noticeable on one corner. I got two ipads at the same time (one for my wife) and hers is not as bad.
But, honestly, I can only see it on a black screen. When watching a movie with black bars on top I can see it if I look hard enough. I consider myself somewhat anal retentive and I just don't see what the fuss is about.
What I can say is that having used the Xoom for almost 2 months and now using the iPad 2, the Xoom screen looks much better. The form factor seemed odd at first but I now got used to landscape, there is zero bleed and the higher rez does make a difference.
Infinity Blade on the iPad 2 looks AMAZING though. Killer app.
What is the relative brightness of the Xoom's display compared to the iPad's display?
Some weapons grade comment there for sure
yeah, whatever the count was, they had it worse than anything i've owned from apple. sigh...again, i went through a couple AND so has my girlfriend. Amazing, do you not know anyone else in real life who has purchased one? A coworker and others have forwarded me a link from engadget about apple confirming they had "production issues" but pushed forward. Research it, you'll find it.
and yeah, my time is pretty much worthless, hence why i'm here. cvm, didn't mean to overly offend you there. I'm just sayin, you're awfully defensive for someone who believes its completely natural. but yeah, you're right. i grew a brain and said eff this madness. got an ipod touch for myself instead lol. don;t know bout the genius' though, they probably could care less, they're there for a check, nothing more nothing less.
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So another updated for you guys regarding my iPad 2's BLB and my experience at the Genius Bar. Went there Wednesday, the guy checked it out and said it was out of spec enough that they would replace, but said to come back the next day as their systems were down. Went back Thursday, the Genius guy I dealt with was not as nice this time. He didn't think mine was bad and said that doing this replacement was a one time thing and there was no guarantee that the new one would be any better. He said, if I didn't like the replacement, he would not just keep opening new ones until I found one I liked. When he went to put it in the system, he said that they had none in stock and they would call me when they got the replacement in.
Based on my experience, it seems like my store has been getting a lot of people in with this issue because they now seem to be doing a backlight bleed replacement just once. I explained to the guy that it was annoying seeing the bleed when watching movies even at 40% brightness, but he didn't care.
I will report back when they get the replacement in and I go check it out.
Based on my experience, it seems like my store has been getting a lot of people in with this issue because they now seem to be doing a backlight bleed replacement just once. I explained to the guy that it was annoying seeing the bleed when watching movies even at 40% brightness, but he didn't care.
I will report back when they get the replacement in and I go check it out.