Backlight bleeding

[rockinmorockin]

i got a 16 GB black ipad 2 yesterday and the screen is near perfect. I don't really see any bleeding and if there is it's extremely faint on the sides of the screen, but that's probably the light.

can it start bleeding in a week? a month? or will it stay like this, in the condition i bought it in?

 

[peaceActivist]

new development

Pulled from the apple forums:

Keep in mind, people, they're still using LG screens and even though they've purchased a contract with Samsung, don't expect them to ship those right away.

Similarities are pretty obvious, screen bleed issues, if this is correct, my guess is that LG is the culprit here...but even then, this should have been caught by the engineers or testers, not the customers.

http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-having-lcd-screen-bleeding-issues-quality-control-20110420/

 

[head honcho 123]

i got a 16 GB black ipad 2 yesterday and the screen is near perfect. I don't really see any bleeding and if there is it's extremely faint on the sides of the screen, but that's probably the light.

can it start bleeding in a week? a month? or will it stay like this, in the condition i bought it in?

i think it stays the way it is.

where did you get it from? apple webstore? apple retail store? wifi only? 3g?

 

[rockinmorockin]

i bought it from bestbuy, 16 GB wifi only.

it seems good so i'm not going to complain. BUT...there is a dead pixel, very small. one of those green/red spots like on any LCD screen such as the PSP.

 

[head honcho 123]

i bought it from bestbuy, 16 GB wifi only.

it seems good so i'm not going to complain. BUT...there is a dead pixel, very small. one of those green/red spots like on any LCD screen such as the PSP.

if u are happy then it's alllllllllllllllllllll good!

 

[rockinmorockin]

i just want to be sure that my screen isn't going to start bleeding out of no where in a week or in a month.

i want to start buying apps but would feel bad if i started getting problems and wasted that money on nothing. am i good to go if i have no backlight bleeding at the moment?

 

[spiderman0616]

i just want to be sure that my screen isn't going to start bleeding out of no where in a week or in a month.

i want to start buying apps but would feel bad if i started getting problems and wasted that money on nothing. am i good to go if i have no backlight bleeding at the moment?

You can back up all your stuff to iTunes and then you don't have to worry about exchanging. Download away!

 

[head honcho 123]

i just want to be sure that my screen isn't going to start bleeding out of no where in a week or in a month.

i want to start buying apps but would feel bad if i started getting problems and wasted that money on nothing. am i good to go if i have no backlight bleeding at the moment?

i don't think that will happen...

 

[rockinmorockin]

i hope not...i just want to know if others have had seemingly perfect ipad 2 displays, then all of a sudden the back light bled

 

[Mike84]

Pulled from the apple forums:

Keep in mind, people, they're still using LG screens and even though they've purchased a contract with Samsung, don't expect them to ship those right away.

Similarities are pretty obvious, screen bleed issues, if this is correct, my guess is that LG is the culprit here...but even then, this should have been caught by the engineers or testers, not the customers.

http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-having-lcd-screen-bleeding-issues-quality-control-20110420/

This is really interesting because since the complaints started to come in I suspected LG was to blame.

I purchased a 32 LG LCD tv a few months ago. My TV bleeds and I decided to contact LG who forwarded my email with pictures to the engineers. They eventually responded saying they have thresholds for bleeding and the bleeding I had fell under that threshold. I didn't worry about it and moved on.

Now that people are having issues with their iPads I believe it has something to do with the LCDs provided by LG. I think all of their LCDs exhibit this to a certain degree.

 

[lavrishevo]

ALL LCD's have backlight bleeding. I mean all! Some are worse then others but it is a limitation in the technology. Anyone who claims that their screen is "perfect" does not know how to see it or is delusional. Reality is if you can see it in a bright room get it replaced but if you have to turn off all the lights to see it then it's pretty much normal on these screens. Not something to be fretted over. Enjoy the iPad and don't go crazy over the "perfect" screen but it does not exist.

 

[peaceActivist]

This is really interesting because since the complaints started to come in I suspected LG was to blame.

I purchased a 32 LG LCD tv a few months ago. My TV bleeds and I decided to contact LG who forwarded my email with pictures to the engineers. They eventually responded saying they have thresholds for bleeding and the bleeding I had fell under that threshold. I didn't worry about it and moved on.

Now that people are having issues with their iPads I believe it has something to do with the LCDs provided by LG. I think all of their LCDs exhibit this to a certain degree.

I agree with you that most LCDs exhibit this to a certain degree, but the issue is at what degree is it really acceptable when some have excessive and some have minimal, its not consistent. It sucks.

I remember when shopping for tv's, 2 years ago, that Sony and Samsung were among the best of the best as far as LCD's were concerned and both LCD's were produced in the same plant so technically the only difference between the two tvs was the processor engine or whatever. LG wasn't even in the rankings, as far as I can remember, and I don't mean to knock your LG tv either. For the record, my Samsung LNT4071 had no screen bleed, at all, i'd watch dark knight in bluray in all its glory...really bad 120hz triple ball effect though lol.

As far as purchasing apps for your iPad and worrying about losing stuff, i think someone mentioned that you can transfer purchases when you sync in iTunes.

Another note, if you're worried about the bleed getting worse...it actually does get worse. I think it has to do with pressure put on the bezel...it happened on 2 of our exchange iPads.

 

[Mike84]

I think it is interesting that you can make an LCD bleed if you put pressure on the screen. I have done this with my LG LCD TV and it does it. So, it makes you wonder whether the issue that the iPad 2 is having has to do with the type of pressure, if any, exerted on the screen.

 

[rockinmorockin]

ALL LCD's have backlight bleeding. I mean all! Some are worse then others but it is a limitation in the technology. Anyone who claims that their screen is "perfect" does not know how to see it or is delusional. Reality is if you can see it in a bright room get it replaced but if you have to turn off all the lights to see it then it's pretty much normal on these screens. Not something to be fretted over. Enjoy the iPad and don't go crazy over the "perfect" screen but it does not exist.

good to know everyone has it to a certain extent...i want my screen to remain how it is and not start bleeding anytime soon.

 

[russr]

An update on my situation

Just wanted to keep you guys updated on my iPad 2 backlight bleed situation. Yesterday as I posted, I called Apple Support and they said they had not heard of the issue, but were happy to replace mine either through the mail or through my local Genius bar.

Made an appointment with the Genius bar and when I explained to them what was going on, immediately they responded as if this was a common issue. The genius I spoke to told me that all LCDs from all manufacturers have this issue. He said that all the iPad 2s and iPad 1s have it. I told him that the original iPad we had at work didn't have it and he argued otherwise saying he could find bleed in it.

Anyway, he told me that because they all have it, they only replace ones that are "out of spec" or I guess particularly bad. He took mine in the back and said it was bad in one corner and qualified for a replacement. I expressed my desire to not just get another one that was as bad or worse. He said that the tech could check it out before I took it. Their systems were down and he couldn't do anything last night itself, so I'm going back tonight.

I'm really hoping I can check out the replacement in the store itself in a dark section so that I don't get one that's worse or the same. If it doesn't work out, I'll just wait and do it through the mail when the reports of bleed start going away from the production line.

Once you notice this bleed, it is hard to ignore when you watch widescreen movies or tv shows. On mine, it is noticeable even at brightness levels below 50%.

 

[SPEEDwithJJ]

Pulled from the apple forums:

Keep in mind, people, they're still using LG screens and even though they've purchased a contract with Samsung, don't expect them to ship those right away.

Similarities are pretty obvious, screen bleed issues, if this is correct, my guess is that LG is the culprit here...but even then, this should have been caught by the engineers or testers, not the customers.

http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-having-lcd-screen-bleeding-issues-quality-control-20110420/

Maybe because to the LG engineers &/or testers, this kind of light bleed is their standard?!?!?

 

[JM2-uk]

i bought it from bestbuy, 16 GB wifi only.

it seems good so i'm not going to complain. BUT...there is a dead pixel, very small. one of those green/red spots like on any LCD screen such as the PSP.

'dead pixel - very small'....


They have a habit of being small, those pixels you know....

Fool you if you keep a display with that. That is on par with bad BLB.

 

[jaw04005]

My replacement iPad 2 came today. The screen is practically perfect, but there's black marks on the aluminum back and the unit had a sticky adhesive coating all over the bezel that I barely got off.

Also, my "senior engineer" AppleCare Rep. told me to ship my power adapter and USB cable back with my old iPad because it was being "captured." However, the replacement came with neither.

 

[russr]

My replacement iPad 2 came today. The screen is practically perfect, but there's black marks on the aluminum back and the unit had a sticky adhesive coating all over the bezel that I barely got off.

Also, my "senior engineer" AppleCare Rep. told me to ship my power adapter and USB cable back with my old iPad because it was being "captured." However, the replacement came with neither.

Are the scuff marks on the aluminum removable with a soft damp cloth?

 

[jaw04005]

Are the scuff marks on the aluminum removable with a soft damp cloth?

They look like actual scratches. However, I haven't put too much time into getting rid of them yet. Oh well. I would have probably gotten scratches on it anyway --- it's just annoying.

 

[Taylormade68]

They look like actual scratches. However, I haven't put too much time into getting rid of them yet. Oh well. I would have probably gotten scratches on it anyway --- it's just annoying.

No way I would accept scratches like that after paying good money. That is BS.

 

[peaceActivist]

Just wanted to keep you guys updated on my iPad 2 backlight bleed situation. Yesterday as I posted, I called Apple Support and they said they had not heard of the issue, but were happy to replace mine either through the mail or through my local Genius bar.

Made an appointment with the Genius bar and when I explained to them what was going on, immediately they responded as if this was a common issue. The genius I spoke to told me that all LCDs from all manufacturers have this issue. He said that all the iPad 2s and iPad 1s have it. I told him that the original iPad we had at work didn't have it and he argued otherwise saying he could find bleed in it.

Anyway, he told me that because they all have it, they only replace ones that are "out of spec" or I guess particularly bad. He took mine in the back and said it was bad in one corner and qualified for a replacement. I expressed my desire to not just get another one that was as bad or worse. He said that the tech could check it out before I took it. Their systems were down and he couldn't do anything last night itself, so I'm going back tonight.

I'm really hoping I can check out the replacement in the store itself in a dark section so that I don't get one that's worse or the same. If it doesn't work out, I'll just wait and do it through the mail when the reports of bleed start going away from the production line.

Once you notice this bleed, it is hard to ignore when you watch widescreen movies or tv shows. On mine, it is noticeable even at brightness levels below 50%.

This was the exact reason why we returned ours. It was just ridiculous that when you call you get one answer like they never knew, then you go to the store some act as if its normal and some act as if they've never heard of the issue. Either way, the inconsistency of what they were telling us wasn't enough for us to keep playing this game going around and around. At least if more reports of good screens keep coming in thats saying something, i just gave up. My coworker has a ship date of april 15, if his is okay then i'll probably place an order, i don't mind waiting 2 weeks or whatever, but I'm not getting a 64gb this time around. The kind of QC apple has shown in this, I'm going bare minimum. don't really feel like spending more than 500 on it anymore after what i've seen.

 

[Igantius]

I'm the UK, phoned up earlier and as soon as I explained what the situation the first question was I was asked was 'Is there an Apple Store near you?', followed by, 'Would you like me to make you an appointment?' So I'm not seeing a Genius at 11 am tomorrow - the store is about 20 minute walk away from me and I was going into town anyway, so hardly inconvenient.

 

[cmvsm]

I think that we should all go home, wait until midnight tonight, locate or open any LCD device in the house, turn it on, and turn its brightness up to 100%, or more if possible. Then shut out all the lights and close all of the curtains to pitch black, and evaluate.

Any TV, portable game console, computer, picture frame, GPS, DVD player, cell phone, camera, refrigerator/washer machine touch panel, clock, watch, or printer screen, that is less than perfect and ZERO light bleed, let's do a mass return of all those faulty items and show these LCD manufacturers that we're not going to take it!!

LOL.....

 

[gigabella]

The problem to which most of you leaving comments about bleeding happening to all LCD's when turning brightness up to 100% is that this is happening in normal lighting and visibly seen at 0% brightness on the ipad 2 device.

If the bleed is visibly seen at 0% it is not acceptable solution to say ok Ill keep my brightness all the way down in order to correct the issue. Why doesnt Apple then just issue a software update that eliminates the brightness toggle from all ipads and set it automatically to 0%. Probably because that is not how the product is intended to operate.