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id like to see a more fully functional tablet.

if they can make it pretty looking, give it a usb port, and set apps (to preserve user quality and not produce laggy tablets) they could easily take a hold on the market.

euh, somebody needs to figure out a way to make writing on a tablet nice...
 
Just one more item to add to those "MicroSoft" flagship stores.

BTW, how are they doing, hmmm? There is nothing like a "Ballmerized" product that get your wallet sizzling. :rolleyes:
 
I think if MS is to have any moderate success with their products on tablets, they'll adapt Windows Phone 7 to tablet, just as Apple did with iOS, HP is doing with WebOS, and various companies are with Android.

A desktop OS has no place on any tablet. It just plain sucks. I think the last 10 years of abismal sales speak well for that. Outside of a couple niche markets, tablets based on Windows have failed miserably. Windows 7 is no game changer. Having spent a couple weeks with a Windows 7 equipped $3000 Motion Computing tablet, I gave it back, scratching my head as to what the point of it was.
 
Dang it, can't those guys come up with ANYTHING original?? That thing looks just like an iPad! Apple announces shiny touch screen phones and every other manufacturer copies them. Apple announces iPad -- and now we get this. Honestly, do something original people. At least try!
 
MS is always a bit lagging behind. Look at the iPhone. Ballmer laughed loudly as they asked him about it. Now all major smartphone manufactors let their copy-machines running crazy, all build Smartphones in an iPhone-style (big touchscreen, easy OS etc.).

The tablet thing. Well, Apple was not first, but let's face it: The iPad was the first tablet really being popular and not just another shelf warmer.

The UMPCs from MS failed completely, Zune's market share is very little compared to iPod's... If MS did not have Windows and Office, well then who knows...
 
id like to see a more fully functional tablet.

if they can make it pretty looking, give it a usb port, and set apps (to preserve user quality and not produce laggy tablets) they could easily take a hold on the market.

What makes you think that? In the consumer space, people buy PCs with Windows because that's the only operating system that you can easily get on a cheap PC. In the enterprise space, it's compatibility.

But for a tablet, nobody will buy it because it's made by Microsoft. Maybe ten years ago, maybe even five years, but not now. In the computer space, if people have the choice between a product made by the people who make the iPod and the iPhone, or a product made by the people who make Windows that they have to suffer at work, everyone's choice will be the iPad, made by Apple. Look at the Zune, nobody bought that.

In the Enterprise space, well there is Exchange compatible mail, and I can access all my (Windows) work applications from an iPad. To compete with that, Windows will have to port Internet Explorer 6 which all the companies are using for backwards compatibility. :D
 
Ballmer is an Idiot

I hate this guy. He made a big deal during WWDC about what a mess someone made about trying to take notes on an iPad during a discussion, like it was somehow a failing of the iPad. I sat in on a meeting two days ago and took 6 pages of notes on the iPad and was able to check out multiple creditor filings from multiple sources over 3G. Everyone was amazed.

Ballmer is an idiot. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
 
I hate this guy. He made a big deal during WWDC about what a mess someone made about trying to take notes on an iPad during a discussion, like it was somehow a failing of the iPad. I sat in on a meeting two days ago and took 6 pages of notes on the iPad and was able to check out multiple creditor filings from multiple sources over 3G. Everyone was amazed.

Ballmer is an idiot. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

When I hear or see anything involving Microsoft I am

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzuning out

To be fair all I use is MS Office as it is the best out there, but the rest o their stuff is not up to this centuries standard.

Always late, nothing new, nothing functions userfriendly

special post ending sound: BING:)
 
Hooray for competition - Bring it on! All of us consumers win. When these MSFT software tablets start flooding the market, Apple will probably reduce iPad prices $50-$100 overnight similar to what happened with the iPhone. I think MSFT actually does have an opportunity here, especially in vertical market applications like warehouse floors, sales reps, and healthcare. Do you think competition from the iPad might just have something to do with Amazon dropping Kindle prices?

Honestly I see the price drop as reflective of competition with the B&N Nook. Serious e-Book reader were never going to ONLY have the iPad anyways. I have a Nook and my iPad is coming on August 12th. Once B&N dropped the price for the WiFi-only to $150 I was sold. This really has nothing to do with Apple.
 
To a great measure, Microsoft has grown so huge BECAUSE of him, not despite him.

Pfft. With the Windows/Office lockdown racket on cruise control, my mom could have grown MS to its current size. It was hardly due to Ballmer's clever navigation. The guy doesn't have an original thought in his head.

I challenge anybody to come up with a picture of the iPad before that demo. Or do I remember wrong?

Microsoft loves to show off half-baked products that are nowhere close to shipping (if ever). It's called FUD.

One video is from September, 2009 and is showing some interior design tasks (veneer and textile samples, I think) done on a Microsoft concept tablet; the other one is from the iPad's official video from this spring, showing some textile samples.

Note that one video is merely that, a video, while the other is a demo for an actual product you can buy.

Good grief, I'm tired of all the mewling about Courier. It was never an actual product, people! It was a glorified PowerPoint presentation of what "could have been" - a wild fantasy dreamed up in some thinktank inside the bowels of MS. A demo many of us could have created ourselves.

Fair point, but please, stop the brainwashed mob

Ah, and the brainwashed cultist card is thrown yet again. Just a matter of time I suppose.

It amazes me that no one ever refers to Microsoft users as "brainwashed," despite their 90% market share. :rolleyes:
 
lol @ the apple fans :p, I'm looking forward to see what PC tablets have to offer.. It would be neat to run a real OS.

Not as neat as you think.

That experience has been available for a long time.. why have you not already jumped on it?
 
Not as neat as you think.

That experience has been available for a long time.. why have you not already jumped on it?

Exactly!
Microsoft has had their head up their ass about tablets for ten years now.

Now Apple have made a success, Microsoft announces their new tablet strategy: Head *further* up ass.

C.
 
Microsoft will continue with one fail after another. Windows 7 being decent is just an anomaly. The problem with Balmer is that he views Apple as the enemy. Look at his remarks about Apple selling more iPads than he would have liked. Sure, he would have liked ZERO because MS has no product for this new category. But to wish failure upon a competitor instead of spurring your own organization to innovate is sad, bitter, and nothing more than a page out of the Republican Party's handbook.

Bye bye Microsoft. Your irrelevance increases each day.
 
Steve Jobs didn't even know what a cellphone was, when Microsoft already was working on tablets. The picture is from Balmer's demo either on the 5th or 6th of January, this year. Then the rumours were that Apple's iSlate/iTab/MacSlate was going to run OS X. I challenge anybody to come up with a picture of the iPad before that demo. Or do I remember wrong?

You're kidding, right? You think Apple didn't have a finished product in the iPad by January?
 
Now that the iPad seems to be in demand, the entire PC-based world is going to target the market. Give this tablet-thingy market 2-3 years and see where the dust settles. Unless Apple gets into the business space for tablet applications (hospitals are a great example), the iPad is going to be limited to consumer apps and consumer market...which may be fine to Apple.

"seems to be in demand"???!! hahahaha. quite the understatment. sounds like MS fanboi jealousy :rolleyes:

And the "business space" is exactly where the iPad has been phenomenally successful. Fastest adoption rate imaginable. Hospitals, engineers, researchers, mechanics, salesmen, enterprise applications, etc. etc. Do you even read the business news??

5)MS and the rest of the entire PC world is not just going to sit back and let Apple dominate a completely new computer market. It's one thing that MS and others lost on the consumer-electronics iPod line...it's quite another for a computer-based device that may very well replace a great deal of traditional computers.

-Eric

That ship has already sailed, hasn't it? Apple created and defined the mobile tablet market with the iPad. MS doesn't have any hope of being anything other than a niche player. It's iPod all over again - is there any commercially viable alternative to the iPod? Of course not. And no one will be able to successfully compete with iPad, either. People know quality and top-notch user experience when they see it - no one wants anything other than Apple for a tablet!
 
That ship has already sailed, hasn't it? Apple created and defined the mobile tablet market with the iPad. MS doesn't have any hope of being anything other than a niche player. It's iPod all over again - is there any commercially viable alternative to the iPod? Of course not. And no one will be able to successfully compete with iPad, either. People know quality and top-notch user experience when they see it - no one wants anything other than Apple for a tablet!

As a consumer, I'd like to see Apple challenged by competition. It makes them better. But in terms of tablets, I don't see credible competition coming from Microsoft.

We will see Android tablets, but unless Google themselves refine the hardware, these could become a mess. And Google have no interest in hardware development.

I really hope that HP gets its act together and creates something good with Palm's WebOS. It will be the first time that someone other than Apple, has had both hardware development and software development in the same hands.

C.
 
Microsoft will continue with one fail after another. Windows 7 being decent is just an anomaly. The problem with Balmer is that he views Apple as the enemy. Look at his remarks about Apple selling more iPads than he would have liked. Sure, he would have liked ZERO because MS has no product for this new category. But to wish failure upon a competitor instead of spurring your own organization to innovate is sad, bitter, and nothing more than a page out of the Republican Party's handbook.

Bye bye Microsoft. Your irrelevance increases each day.

Bill Gates & Steve Ballmer are Democrats. FAIL.
 
As a consumer, I'd like to see Apple challenged by competition. It makes them better.

Indeed. Who will be the next Apple? It certainly won't be the Microsoft-beholden of the world (HP, Dell, etc.).

Would it even be possible for an upstart with strong industrial design and an innovative new operating system to even survive, let alone make a significant impact?

Who will be the new Apple as Apple becomes fat and lazy and unimaginative? (An inevitability demonstrated with aplomb by Microsoft - not that Microsoft was ever actually imaginative.)

I fear the days of "two guys in a garage" are long behind us (never to return) in the computer hardware/OS department.
 
What came first? An egg in 2009 or a chicken in 2010?

Microsoft loves to show off half-baked products that are nowhere close to shipping (if ever). It's called FUD.

The reason why posted was to argue against those, who claimed that Microsoft stole Apple's iPad design. The fact is that Microsoft demoed a prototype that looked very similar to the iPad from over HALF A YEAR LATER. There is no point of any hatred towards MS on this point. They didn't steal the design.

Good grief, I'm tired of all the mewling about Courier. It was never an actual product, people! It was a glorified PowerPoint presentation of what "could have been" - a wild fantasy dreamed up in some thinktank inside the bowels of MS. A demo many of us could have created ourselves.
I'm not going to argue otherwise. But again, it was Microsoft preceding Apple about some marketing ideas. "Apple - inspired by Microsoft". There you go, do the MS trashing now! Whatever they do, it's good enough for Apple's marketing team to re-use as advertising ideas...

It amazes me that no one ever refers to Microsoft users as "brainwashed," despite their 90% market share. :rolleyes:

You don't get it. I called 'brainwashed mob' people, who blamed MS with stealing the iPad's design, despite the fact that one came half a year before the next. But I said that fairly clearly, some people just don't want to listen. If people accuse one company to stealing another's design, then obviously it doesn't matter, whether the product makes it or not. So no, MS nor HP did steal the design of the iPad. Besides, Apple Inc is notorious for litigating the living hell out of anything having the smallest reason to sue. Don't people trust Apple Inc that it can stand up for its own interest?

Besides, if that tablet looks anything, it is a flat tablet with a screen. You might blame MS for coming up with something like a large iPod Touch. But you don't want to claim that the iPad is just a large iPod Touch, do you?
 
HP now says Slate tablet will be geared toward enterprise market

The never-ending saga of the HP Slate tablet took another turn today, when HP Personal Systems Group VP Todd Bradley told a tech conference that what was once thought to be an iPad competitor is going to be targeted to the enterprise.

It appears that the Windows 7-based tablets that HP has planned (if there are any more than the Slate 500 in the works) will be marketed to businesses, and its tablets running webOS (acquired with HP’s purchase of Palm a couple of months ago) will be focused on the consumer market. That’s probably good news to Apple, since there’s no indication that a webOS tablet is imminent, giving the iPad more time to increase its hold on the niche.

It may not be as good news for Microsoft, since a major manufacturer like HP has decided to avoid releasing a Windows 7-based tablet to the wider consumer audience. It also keeps those who’ve been waiting for an alternative tablet in a holding pattern, eager for a big name company to release details on an Android tablet that will come out sooner than later and finally challenge the iPad in the mass market.

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source: Sean Portnoy , ZDNet.com
 
Bill Gates & Steve Ballmer are Democrats. FAIL.

And Jobs is a Democrat too so I don't know why that guy was trying to spew that political hate.

The source of all evil is not Republicans. And that business practice that guy was talking about is out of the liberal handbook. Geez. Talk about trying to revise history.
 
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