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I think they've finally come out and said it's because Vista was a turd. I played with it for twenty minutes at Best Buy when it launched and knew I didn't want it on my machine.

Correct, and to make their own problem even worse, they made it impossible for anyone to easily upgrade to windows 7 from XP without having to reinstall every single last piece of data on your computer.
 
Ballmer is a joke. He lost any credibility with what he said about the iPhone in 2007. The sooner the MSFT board fires him the better. Not that I think MSFT has much chance to survive in their current form. They should simply jetison the money-losers and keep:

Windows
Office
Servers
Gaming
Dev Tools

Those are the only profitable divisions.
 
Correct, and to make their own problem even worse, they made it impossible for anyone to easily upgrade to windows 7 from XP without having to reinstall every single last piece of data on your computer.

Yeah, I had to go through all that so I could get the 64-bit advantages. Lame though... And if the new Mac Pros had been out I could be counted in the converts corner. As of now, stuck with a brand new Win machine. Boo!
 
copycats

M$'s entire business practice is "buy anything that looks like it has potential and take credit for the R&D", "if we can't afford to buy it, just rip it off afterwards" and "if we don't recognize the potential, rip it off afterwards".
No exceptions.
 
And this is news how?

Tablets have been a priority for quite some number of years at Microsoft.

Maybe if he wanted to make (real) news, then he should have said "A Competitive tablet" or "A Good tablet" or "A Tablet that doesn't suck" is "Job One Urgency" at Microsoft.

And if you think Vista was a train wreck, wait 'til this one happens!

Rumors are flying wild that HP is going to drop Windows Mobile for their now owned webOS and come out with their own webOS tablet.

I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft tried to buy Palm just to sit on webOS and not do anything with it.

Just a matter of time someone 'shops a Microsoft tablet with the Blue Screen of Death.
 
Ballmer is a joke. He lost any credibility with what he said about the iPhone in 2007. The sooner the MSFT board fires him the better. Not that I think MSFT has much chance to survive in their current form. They should simply jetison the money-losers and keep:

Windows
Office
Servers
Gaming
Dev Tools

Those are the only profitable divisions.

I have to agree there. In a way, MSTF is in similar shape to Apple back in 1996 before Jobs came back. I don't think it is that bad but cutting off what doesn't make money a la Business 101 is in order.

Has the mobile division ever made money?
 
I can imagine the board meeting on developing this and how to compete.

"We'll allow Flash! We can target the crowd that's bitter over that"

"Anyway we can put a blu-ray player in it?"
 
I'm very confused by all the Microsoft is doomed talked when they just had I believe their biggest quarter ever. I understand it's something that's not going to be reported on macrumors, but perhaps if people are going to talk about PCs and such, perhaps they should also read about them, instead of just being in the Apple universe.

Edit: They had their biggest 4th quarter ever.
 
As for Apple and the iPad, Ballmer said, "they've sold certainly more than I'd like them to have sold."

Mr. Obvious. Considering they're competitors, MS would like them to sell zero. Therefore, Apple selling any would be more than they'd like.

That's like saying after your wife get assaulted, "Well, they certainly beat her more than I'd like them to have."
 
Microsoft will continue to mint money with windows/office, but they lost their mojo. Now they have to compete against both Apple and Google. Basically Win 7 Phone and this so called Slate will be competing against Android based cheap gadgets where margin is extremely thin.
 
Ballmer is nothing but a corporate tool. A corner office chatter box schmuck
When these so-called tablets from MS's team of partners drop soon they will be competing not with Apple but the other tablets makers. They will crush each others profit margins and in the end they'll be nothing but a dead sea of identically OS powered tablets priced cheap due to market saturation and stacked high as hell in Best Buy and Wallmart.
 
Microsoft tablet

Oooh I can't WAIT! Sexy new piece from Microsoft!

I'm sure it will be dripping with innovation, completely re-writing the rules as opposed to copying the iPad...

If Ballmer does the unveiling...well entertainment doesn't get any better. Dinosaur demonstrating dinosaur.
 
Haha he's bald too, and nice sweater

Ok, and how many of you actually walk around in a black turtleneck, ragged up 501's and running shoes? Steve jobs looks like he's been stuck in the 90's too, but at least he's making really, really cool products!
 
Running a flavor of Windows instead of a phone OS is probably a good idea.

But, like all things Microsoft, it's ugly, ugly, ugly.

Practical, but no flair, and no design.
 
So, what have people got to look forward to from this Windows 7 based tablet from Microsoft then...

- OS Patches almost every week
- Viruses
- Spyware
- Rootkits
- Bloated apps
- Apps are slow to load
- A tablet that is slow to turn on or wake up
- The need for Anti-Virus
- Blue screen of death

Hmm... place my order now for one of these things now, NOT!

I am happy with my iPad Mr Balmer :)
 
I'm very confused by all the Microsoft is doomed talked when they just had I believe their biggest quarter ever. I understand it's something that's not going to be reported on macrumors, but perhaps if people are going to talk about PCs and such, perhaps they should also read about them, instead of just being in the Apple universe.

Edit: They had their biggest 4th quarter ever.


The problem is, Apple and Google are exploding. Their net earnings keep doubling. Microsoft has a bit of growth, but in the very near future, Microsoft will be the third largest of the three companies with the smallest budget for R&D as well as advertising. In a few years, Apple and Google will both be able to purchase Microsoft with cash on hand. (Not that they would, the FTC would block it in an instant.)
 
I know I'm pissing in to the void with this comment, being buried on page 7 or 8 as it will be, but to all the people saying that this is a blatant rip-off of the iPad --- go check the timeline of events in January. This device was demoed before iPad was announced. Just saying.

Obviously Windows 7 on a slate is going to be awful compared to the slick, focused and fully optimised experience of the iPad, but there will be a market for it. The PHBs don't want Apple, they want MS, but they also want iPad like devices. Nobody got fired for buying MS. Besides, these things will be OK for business use -- they'll have Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote -- those last two in particular might actually be useful. And they'll be stuffed full of ports and features that aren't on the iPad -- the things that geeks are 'crying out for' on the iPad. And you'll be able to program for them using VB.NET, so the hoards of cubical developers that aren't up to Obj-C can still churn out their line-of-business stuff.

Microsoft's problem is that their hardware partners are running away from Windows, so they might find they don't have the products to actually sell. My guess is that there was a very sweet deal to get HP back on board with the slate.
 
Microsoft's problem is that their hardware partners are running away from Windows, so they might find they don't have the products to actually sell. My guess is that there was a very sweet deal to get HP back on board with the slate.

Your right but to me its not so much the partners are running way, its that MS does not really care, I don't think they really care about this. If it does nothing good, there is enough people that will buy it that unlike Apple which has to make something that works, MS never really has had to do that.

If Apple OS was as bad as windows has been for ever that I can remember, they would have gone out of business a long time ago. The IT world is invested on Products that keep them in the job. I for one make no money from learning or knowing Apple software products there is very little trouble shooting but on the Windows side its business as usual and nice payday.

Its fine by me that Windows even this pad like thing will just basically be a lame duck, but I am sure in time I will make money off fixing the problems that crop op :D I am always happy to take Windows users money, its what I live for. ;)
 
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