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I am very excited about this event, let's hope apple won't disappoint us.. :) just 22hours more!!! time past so slowly to be patient. :(
 
I’m betting we will see a brand new product announce. What will it be? I have no idea. Maybe Apple will enter the UMPC market or maybe we’ll finally get a Mac Tablet – but you can bet that whatever shiny new toy they pull from their bag we’ll immediately be convince we CAN'T live without it.
In terms of a "big deal" - that's the kind of thing I imagine. Well... not a MacTablet as much as an iTablet (ie: iPhone OSX, not Mac OSX).

I agree it's unlikely to be a product upgrade. But Apple might say "a big deal" and mean DRM free, or subscription music, or a big deal with independents, or NBC is back on iTunes, or something.

All things considered.... I think the "big deal" and "product transition" would have to be the same thing wouldn't they? So again we come back to the mystery product transition... but now we give it a greater "let's rock" focus... hmmm.

Does anyone think there is even a remote possibility that Apple could do a "One More Thing..." event to release the new MacBooks and MacBook Pros? I'm starting to get desperate... I'm probably just grasping at straws... I hate Apple for doing this to me. :(

Your question misleads me :) I don't think there's a remote chance that it'll be the "One more thing". But I wouldn't be surprised to see a speed bump sometime very soon.

Actually, my prediction of the "product transition" was touch screen laptops and iMacs and cinema displays - but the "let's rock" implies iTunes and iPods so strongly....!

just a quick question - Is SSD and flash hard drive the same thing? Except they call it the former if it's inside the computer, and the latter if it's external?

Essentially yes. Remember that the flash memory in a USB drive is significantly slower than what is used in a solid state hard drive!, so you can't compare cost/characteristics of flash sticks with internal drives.
 
I am very excited about this event, let's hope apple won't disappoint us.. :) just 22hours more!!! time past so slowly to be patient. :(

It's longer than 22 hours! It's only just after midnight Sunday night (Monday morning) in California iicc. The event isn't till 10am Tuesday morning, another 34 hours.

I hope they put a camera in the ipod touch. that would make it perfect.
A camera is OK, but GPS would make it perfect.

I've been using the iPhone camera, and not very impressed.
(edit: Now, as video and still cameras are converging, I wouldn't mind seeing what Apple could produce. But forget the tiny inbuilt iPhone camera)

GPS would be great, though I must say that the wifi locator works impressively well. The key is to have a good offline mapping system... that would make a huge difference.

Hell... just put bluetooth in the Touch, so I can connect to the net via my mobile phone.
 
Where is that picture taken??? I figured they would hold this event at the Apple town hall but the fact that it looks like it will be somewhere else tells me that this really might be a bigger event than we thought! Anyone know where it is being held?
 
I'm thinking that it's about time for some new colors for the iPhone. It seems like the logical point to start offering different colors, they've switched to the plastic backs now so it would be very easy on the manufacturing end. The iPhone has become mainstream enough that there is a high demand among customers to differentiate their iPhone, as is evident through the countless cases and skins available. This just seems to be the normal process now days, once a product (especially phones) has been on the market for a year or so the next step always seems to be to offer a variety of colors.
 
Where is that picture taken??? I figured they would hold this event at the Apple town hall but the fact that it looks like it will be somewhere else tells me that this really might be a bigger event than we thought! Anyone know where it is being held?
The Yerba Buena Center in San Francisco. ...First sentence of the MacRumors article. ;)
 
It seems like the logical point to start offering different colors, they've switched to the plastic backs now so it would be very easy on the manufacturing end.

Hey, the original rumours for 3G iPhone had a 2.8" screen instead of 3.5", but with the same resolution. Maybe we'll see a smaller 2.8" colourful 2G iPhone (with GPS) designed mainly for wifi use and aimed mainly at students.

Way too many possibilities once we go outside the basic rumours!
 
Flash is also increasing capacity at a faster rate than traditional hard drives. It will eventually eclipse HD-based storage in most applications (not just iPods). Flash is—if only currently theoretically—faster, cheaper, more durable, thinner, lighter, and more efficient. As far as mass storage goes we'll probably see a drop in capacity for a short time during the mass-transition to flash—i.e. max HD capacity would be, say, 1 TB and max flash would be 512 GB, but producers would still drop the HD and push flash.

More durable? No. Flash works by pumping large amounts of electricity in to cells to make them store a value. Think of it as a jail, with a bit in each cell, and they have to blow the bars every time it's written to. That makes flash's capacity decrease over time. It's durable enough that it isn't a problem on portable media players, where each sector may be written to a couple of thousand times per year, but not nearly good enough for desktops, where caching and paging mean the disc can undergo some very heavy use.

As you increase HD capacity, the price tends to be less than linear - that is, you can buy a 120GB HDD for £90, and a 200GB HDD for £120. With flash, increasing the capacity increases the price much faster.
 
More durable? No. Flash works by pumping large amounts of electricity in to cells to make them store a value. Think of it as a jail, with a bit in each cell, and they have to blow the bars every time it's written to. That makes flash's capacity decrease over time. It's durable enough that it isn't a problem on portable media players, where each sector may be written to a couple of thousand times per year, but not nearly good enough for desktops, where caching and paging mean the disc can undergo some very heavy use.

As you increase HD capacity, the price tends to be less than linear - that is, you can buy a 120GB HDD for £90, and a 200GB HDD for £120. With flash, increasing the capacity increases the price much faster.

What are your sources? Every time I look at a computer store catalogue, I see more and more and more products using flash memory.
 
Maybe the product transition that would reduce margins is...
[*]September 9 release of the iPhone OS mini-tablet. It acts as both a high-end iPod(-ish) and a handheld content creation/editing platform. This will have new hardware and additional software, like maybe Atom, iLife, and iWork. The new technologies will give it an initial high price, but as Apple stated, it will go down as time passes.
[*]October release of the Mac OS X tablet. The multi-touch display will initially demand a high price, but as Apple stated, it will go down as time passes.

What we need is something as small as possible (5 to 7 inch screen or so) and as light as possible (400 g or so) but with a full Mac OS X inside, so that full NATIVE Keynote and PowerPoint files can be open for full blown presentations with transitions, animations and video, as done now with laptops. Both wired and wireless. Because even the MacBook Air is too large and heavy for us. With true Ethernet port. With true Firewire ports (Target Disk Mode for repairs, camcorder video in, etc). Something like this, but with Mac OS X inside:

OQO model e2
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:] that would be. then, "One More Thing... we're discontinuing the Mac mini. bye."

Oddly, I'd love that to happen.

OK, I'd prefer them to annouce an update. But at least if they announce the Mini going EOL then I can eliminate it is one of my available options.
Sadly, as things stand, the Mini (with realistic refresh) fits what I want better than anything else. So I'm left hanging until they either update or kill off the poor thing.

And before people suggest 'buy anyway', it's not an option at this time given my current budget and requirements. Until I know the fate of the Mini, I'm sorta stumped.

Sadly, I'm in full agreement with those people that say that this coming event is going to be purely iPod/iTunes. The Mac line isn't going to get a look in this week. It sucks, but them's the breaks.
 
Oddly, I'd love that to happen.

OK, I'd prefer them to annouce an update. But at least if they announce the Mini going EOL then I can eliminate it is one of my available options.
Sadly, as things stand, the Mini (with realistic refresh) fits what I want better than anything else. So I'm left hanging until they either update or kill off the poor thing.

And before people suggest 'buy anyway', it's not an option at this time given my current budget and requirements. Until I know the fate of the Mini, I'm sorta stumped.

Sadly, I'm in full agreement with those people that say that this coming event is going to be purely iPod/iTunes. The Mac line isn't going to get a look in this week. It sucks, but them's the breaks.

I am a huge iTunes/iPhone nut, but it is getting really annoying that Apple is has pulled so much focus from the Macs. The only good news this year was that Snow Leopard will finally return stability to the Mac.

I am not in the market for a computer at this time, but what Apple has done to the Mac Mini crowd is very awful in my opinion (and I don't think they are getting anything till Macworld, which is what, a 1.5 years since an update).

As for the iPhone/Apple TV, all I can ask for is stability at this point. The new features need to wait unless these performance bugs are already worked out in 2.1.
 
A thinner ipod classic [...] Beatles Ipod classic to mark the beatles on Itunes and reignite sales of the classic.

Anyone agree with my assessment?
Why not? I don't see why a Beatles event of any kind would be out of the question. I wouldn't bet money on it though.

Not only for me, but for the entire industry: Mechanical disk storage is on the way out. Fast.
Not so fast. Hard drives might change. Remember how electric cells went from ordinary alkaline to super-duper polymer-ion? Or whatever the hell the tech du jour is?

I'm not saying I know anything or that I even care. I'm just saying that hard drives, like flash memory, can evolve.
 
I just want them to fix my iPhone so it doesn't crash, hangup and need to be rebooted constantly. :mad: Is that too much to ask?

Maybe they can release version 1.0 again....at least that one worked! :rolleyes:
 
FOOLISH? What's foolish? Going all flash makes perfect sense. Right now it would be too expensive to do, i don't see it happening for a few years but its def not foolish. Your foolish for thinking they'll NEVER go to flash!

Flash saves battery life, makes the mp3 player smaller and thinner, and has a longer life span than HD.

Quit posting if you dont know what your talking about....

I was just going to say the same thing to you. Do you think they should replace, say the 80Gb Classic with 128Gb Flash? Or the 160Gb with...what, 256Gb Flash? Great idea, for the seven people that would be able to afford an iPod costing more than an iMac.

Quit posting if you don't know what you're talking about....
 
I am a huge iTunes/iPhone nut, but it is getting really annoying that Apple is has pulled so much focus from the Macs. The only good news this year was that Snow Leopard will finally return stability to the Mac.

It's interesting to hear your opinion. Those of us waiting for any of the Mac lines to refresh are obviously annoyed at the iTunes/iPhone coverage. And similarly it's understandable that iPhone fans are probably tired of the rest of us whining abouit the lack of Mac updates. ;)

But it's interesting to know that there are people in the iPhone camp who also think that the computer line isn't getting its due in recent days.

I am not in the market for a computer at this time, but what Apple has done to the Mac Mini crowd is very awful in my opinion (and I don't think they are getting anything till Macworld, which is what, a 1.5 years since an update).

In my case, I've been waiting all year so far. The moment the other Macs moved to Santa Rosa[?], the Mini just wasn't a valid option anymore. And it sucks as I can't even make my non-Mac purchase yet, as it's sorta dependant on what my Mac option is.

I don't even want some of the more fanciful improvements that other people have been requesting. Just a minor bump to bring it to something mroe comparable to the current MacBook. Doesn't even have to be that high, just something where the top-end default Mini isn't less than the bottom-end MacBook.
That or, as I mentioned above, if they just officially announce it being discontinued then I can finally plan my computer purchasing.

I've given up on it happening any time soon, though. Obviously the Mini as-is is doing well enough for them to need feel the need to put any visible priority on its replacement. It just doesn't help for what I currently need to get.
 
I think I'm actually getting bored with my Mac computers. I find myself using my two HP laptops about the same as my two Macs lately if not a bit more.

I'm even thinking of buying a copy of Vista or loading XP on my Mac Pro.

I even sold my MB and MBP two weeks ago.

That said, I'm very excited about the new iPods coming out and anything iPhone still gets me excited! I want a bigger iPod Classic, my 160GB is not big enough anymore.
 
To hexonxonx: I am feeling the same way too. I had a MacBook Pro and an iMac, sold my MBP and now going overseas to work as an expat. Probably sell off my iMac too.

Why? Coz eeepc is convenient and light. It's got a multi-touch thing too.

And iMac is just too boring. I sorta need a Mac Pro with a HDMI output for my work.

Things changed after I bought my first iPhone.....keyboard felt cumbersome, mouse unwilling......controlling everything with a touch of finger is just plain straight-forward and easy.

Moreover, I probably wont change back to a "MacBook Touch" or whatever comes out later if I do go with Windows laptop and PC.


Why?



Coz I woulda move on to something else with a touchscreen.

Asus ain't stupid.
 
To hexonxonx: I am feeling the same way too. I had a MacBook Pro and an iMac, sold my MBP and now going overseas to work as an expat. Probably sell off my iMac too.

Why? Coz eeepc is convenient and light. It's got a multi-touch thing too.

And iMac is just too boring. I sorta need a Mac Pro with a HDMI output for my work.

Things changed after I bought my first iPhone.....keyboard felt cumbersome, mouse unwilling......controlling everything with a touch of finger is just plain straight-forward and easy.

Moreover, I probably wont change back to a "MacBook Touch" or whatever comes out later if I do go with Windows laptop and PC.


Why?



Coz I woulda move on to something else with a touchscreen.

Asus ain't stupid.

I r thinking of switching from my iPod to the Zune. Why? Coz it is conveniently brown.

And iPod is just too boring. I sorta need to swap short previews of music with the billions of other Zune users that surround me.

Things changed after I bought my brown Zune, now I never need to have my mp3 player industrially cleaned because dirt doesn't show up on it's murky poo surface like it does on my iPod!

Moreover, I probably won't change back to the new iPods when they are released, I'll go with the next Zune.

Why?



Coz it will be chameleonic.

Microsoft ain't stupad.
 
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