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MacsomJRR said:
The thing is too that the NL West hasn't just been playing itself all this time, we are beating other teams too. :p

WS here we come!
I commented awhile ago on the NL West.

For a good run -- there were no losers.

Since then, the Rockies have settled back into their normal spot in an amazing first to last performance.

Still they aren't doing too bad as a division.
 
MacsomJRR said:
The thing is too that the NL West hasn't just been playing itself all this time, we are beating other teams too. :p

WS here we come!

Exactly, if the divisions had only been playing themselves, then the combined records for every division would be .500.

As the number of games counted increases, I'd expect all of these numbers to regress to the mean, but for now at least, the NL West is the Best.
 
Good to see both my favorite teams divisions are doing well (Yankees and Dodgers).

Of coures the AL West is last. They are really sucking this year. I mean even Seattle is in third and the Angels are right there with them. Pathetic.
 
Sayhey said:
Depends on the year. When we had McCovey (1959 - 1973, 1977 - 1980) in his prime at first there wasn't any Dodger who was close to his talent, much less Garvey. Mac may not have been his best in the '70s but he was still better than Senator Steve in many of those years.

By the time Garvey became a regular player in 1974, the Giants didn't have anyone nearly as productive at first base. That was my original point.
 
Grrrrrr....

I went to the last two Astros games to see them fight back (especially last night with 2 2 out doubles from Ausmus and Burke) only to have them lose.

They used to win all the close ones...that's partially why they got to the World Series....18 innings against Atlanta anyone?

How can a team that started 19-9 slump so badly...?
 
job said:
Grrrrrr....

I went to the last two Astros games to see them fight back (especially last night with 2 2 out doubles from Ausmus and Burke) only to have them lose.

They used to win all the close ones...that's partially why they got to the World Series....18 innings against Atlanta anyone?

How can a team that started 19-9 slump so badly...?

The Dodgers started last season 12-2 and finished 71-91. It happens all the time.
 
aloofman said:
By the time Garvey became a regular player in 1974, the Giants didn't have anyone nearly as productive at first base. That was my original point.

And a nice point that is, but it wasn't your original one. I believe the quote was "a Giants GM in the 1970s would have kicked his mom down a flight stairs to have Garvey at first base" - and in order to protect Spec Richardson's mom I can nitpick with the best of them. Dear, darling sweetheart of and old lady that she is. Horace Stoneham's mom you can drop kick over the Candlestick goalposts for all I care. ;)

More importantly, will someone beat the Diamondbacks already? Damn!
 
Sayhey said:
And a nice point that is, but it wasn't your original one. I believe the quote was "a Giants GM in the 1970s would have kicked his mom down a flight stairs to have Garvey at first base" - and in order to protect Spec Richardson's mom I can nitpick with the best of them. Dear, darling sweetheart of and old lady that she is. Horace Stoneham's mom you can drop kick over the Candlestick goalposts for all I care. ;)

I thought it went without saying that I meant a Giants GM would say that after Garvey became a regular. However, I reserve the right to claim my original point was the same and merely poorly written out. :D

Sayhey said:
More importantly, will someone beat the Diamondbacks already? Damn!

The pretender status of the Rockies has already been exposed. I think the D'backs are next. Except for Webb, all of their established players are on the career decline. Of course, now that I've said this, Green will beat us with a walkoff homer for his only extra-base hit of that week.
 
aloofman said:
The pretender status of the Rockies has already been exposed. I think the D'backs are next. Except for Webb, all of their established players are on the career decline. Of course, now that I've said this, Green will beat us with a walkoff homer for his only extra-base hit of that week.

I've got a Shawn Green bobblehead. I could stick pins in it, if you think it would help.
 
IJ Reilly said:
I've got a Shawn Green bobblehead. I could stick pins in it, if you think it would help.

A Giants fan once gave me a Barry Bonds bobblehead, thinking that I'd want to deface it somehow. Uh, no.
 
Its so nice to see the Red Sox pitching staff living up to the hype. Way to go Beckett.:p :D
 
MacNut said:
Its so nice to see the Red Sox pitching staff living up to the hype. Way to go Beckett.:p :D

Hype? I'm pretty sure they're getting trashed in the media for having a horrible starting rotation. Then look tonight, they have a AAA player pitch what looks to be a very good game.


Players once in a while have bad games. I'm glad to see your ace (who is RJ) having a beautiful year.
Ben
 
saabmp3 said:
Hype? I'm pretty sure they're getting trashed in the media for having a horrible starting rotation. Then look tonight, they have a AAA player pitch what looks to be a very good game.


Players once in a while have bad games. I'm glad to see your ace (who is RJ) having a beautiful year.
Ben
A true Yankees fan would consider Mike Mussina our ace. Randy is a close second. So yes our ace is having a beautiful year.


And what is up with the so called controversy about Lasting Milledge's homerun. So he was happy he hit his first homerun in the Majors and gave some fans high fives. Boo hoo. ****ing cry babies. If I did that I would be running all over the place. Heaven forbid we congragulate someone for an accomplishment.:rolleyes:
 
cycocelica said:
And what is up with the so called controversy about Lasting Milledge's homerun. So he was happy he hit his first homerun in the Majors and gave some fans high fives. Boo hoo. ****ing cry babies. If I did that I would be running all over the place. Heaven forbid we congragulate someone for an accomplishment.:rolleyes:

Perhaps we can have players pull sharpies out of their socks and start autographing balls for fans after a big play? No, thank you. Baseball has always had a code about players who show no respect to the opposition. Mister Milledge is just lucky he never had to face Gibson or Drysdale because he would still be looking for his teeth. I'm glad the Mets manager and players said something to the kid and hopefully he will learn his lesson without so much pain.
 
cycocelica said:
And what is up with the so called controversy about Lasting Milledge's homerun. So he was happy he hit his first homerun in the Majors and gave some fans high fives. Boo hoo. ****ing cry babies. If I did that I would be running all over the place. Heaven forbid we congragulate someone for an accomplishment.:rolleyes:

If he's grown up with the name "Lasting Milledge," then it may be the first high five he's ever had.
 
saabmp3 said:
Players once in a while have bad games. I'm glad to see your ace (who is RJ) having a beautiful year.
Ben
Name one good game Matt Clement has had this season.:)
 
Sayhey said:
Perhaps we can have players pull sharpies out of their socks and start autographing balls for fans after a big play? No, thank you. Baseball has always had a code about players who show no respect to the opposition.
Well isn't that what Bonds does every time he watches a homerun ball fly before he starts his trot to first.
 
MacNut said:
Well isn't that what Bonds does every time he watches a homerun ball fly before he starts his trot to first.

I believe I've already criticized Bonds for this very thing. If I recall I attributed the origin of this abysmal activity to Reggie Jackson. It was "the straw who stirs the drink" who started this stuff, and if there were a way to get the countless players in today's game who do this to stop, I'd be the first to endorse it. There sure isn't any reason to expand this practice to include high-fives with the fans.
 
Sayhey said:
I believe I've already criticized Bonds for this very thing. If I recall I attributed the origin of this abysmal activity to Reggie Jackson. It was "the straw who stirs the drink" who started this stuff, and if there were a way to get the countless players in today's game who do this to stop, I'd be the first to endorse it. There sure isn't any reason to expand this practice to include high-fives with the fans.

I've always thought that the pitcher's equivalent would be, after striking out a batter, to put his arm around the batter's shoulder and mockingly escort him back to his dugout in a "you'll do better next time"-type slur.

Now one of my favorite moments in baseball is when a batter is mistaken about hitting a home run and it bounces off the wall and back into play, leaving him with a mere single or double. Unless a Dodger does it, in which case instead of glee it's a phrase that ends with "you f***ing idiot!"
 
Gary Sheffield will be out until September with wrist surgery.

NEW YORK -- Yankees right fielder Gary Sheffield will undergo surgery to repair a torn ligament in his left wrist but is not expected to miss the rest of the season, general manager Brian Cashman said on Thursday.

Sheffield originally hurt the wrist when he collided at first base with Shea Hillenbrand of the Toronto Blue Jays on April 29. He missed three games, returned for two games and then went on the disabled list May 9 with a contusion and sprain of the wrist and missed 16 games.

He returned on May 23, made five starts as a designated hitter and then returned to right field on May 29. Two days later, he went back on the DL with the ligament tear.

"I am told it's not a season-ending injury," Cashman said before the Yankees played Boston. "He experienced worse pain after he tried to come back. Surgery is being recommended. It wasn't an option earlier."
 
Sayhey said:
Perhaps we can have players pull sharpies out of their socks and start autographing balls for fans after a big play? No, thank you. Baseball has always had a code about players who show no respect to the opposition. Mister Milledge is just lucky he never had to face Gibson or Drysdale because he would still be looking for his teeth. I'm glad the Mets manager and players said something to the kid and hopefully he will learn his lesson without so much pain.
Yeah there is that code but I didnt escalate, and I highly doubt he would have continued after his 2nd, 3rd, etc. I don't see how this is any worse than pumping your first when you strike out a player or coming out of the dugout and tipping your hat to the crowd.
 
cycocelica said:
Yeah there is that code but I didnt escalate, and I highly doubt he would have continued after his 2nd, 3rd, etc. I don't see how this is any worse than pumping your first when you strike out a player or coming out of the dugout and tipping your hat to the crowd.

Suffice it to say, members of both teams, including his own manager, thought it was going over the line. The kid will learn - hopefully.
 
It was his first homerun, its not like he was breaking Babe Ruth's mark or anything.:rolleyes: who cares. let the kid enjoy it.

I remember Cal Ripkin hi fiveing the whole stadium after he broke Lou Gerieg's mark, did anyone care then.
 
MacNut said:
It was his first homerun, its not like he was breaking Babe Ruth's mark or anything.:rolleyes: who cares. let the kid enjoy it.

I remember Cal Ripkin hi fiveing the whole stadium after he broke Lou Gerieg's mark, did anyone care then.
People will be quick to say because Cal was famous. I still don't see the difference personally though.
 
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