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Baseball Season 2006
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IJ Reilly said:Greater Hartford -- isn't that an oxymoron?
Sorry, hard to resist that one.
It's that kind of talk that's not going to get us the Whalers back.
There is a Central Connecticut State University, mind you, and they're tearing up the 1-AA football poll!
As a Yankee fan who has been kind of critical over the past few days this puts it into perspective that it is just a game and life comes first and everything else is trivial. This is just a game and Baseball has just lost one of its own. It goes beyond what we may feel about what they do on the field.
Kwyjibo said:
Absolutely. I just wanted to point out to those who may have missed the ongoing discussion about the crash that more details could be found elsewhere.
Name: Cory Fulton Lidle
Born: March 22, 1972
Major League Seasons: 9
Career Statistics: 82-72 win-loss record, 4.57 earned run average
Major League Teams: New York Mets, Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Oakland Athletics, Toronto Blue Jays, Cincinnati Reds, Philadelphia Phillies, New York Yankees
Wife: Melanie
Children: Son, Christopher Taylor, born Sept. 18, 2000
Biographical Information: 1990 graduate of California's South Hills High School where he was a teammate of New York Yankees' Jason Giambi and was an all-state selection his senior year. Has a twin brother, Kevin, who played minor league baseball. Is a relative of Robert Fulton, inventor of the steamboat.
Born: March 22, 1972
Major League Seasons: 9
Career Statistics: 82-72 win-loss record, 4.57 earned run average
Major League Teams: New York Mets, Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Oakland Athletics, Toronto Blue Jays, Cincinnati Reds, Philadelphia Phillies, New York Yankees
Wife: Melanie
Children: Son, Christopher Taylor, born Sept. 18, 2000
Biographical Information: 1990 graduate of California's South Hills High School where he was a teammate of New York Yankees' Jason Giambi and was an all-state selection his senior year. Has a twin brother, Kevin, who played minor league baseball. Is a relative of Robert Fulton, inventor of the steamboat.
Wow, the A's really ****ed themselves and perhaps ending their post seasons w/ those errors from each game. Tigers are a good team, but they certainly got away w/ some big breaks. But seriously, who the Hell would wanna play for such a lame city like Detroit, that place is a dump, sorta like Oakland If Det wins, it'll be like when Anaheim won the World Series in '20, Anaheim who?
If Det wins, it'll be like when Anaheim won the World Series in '20, Anaheim who? 
n8236 said:Tigers are a good team, but they certainly got away w/ some big breaks. But seriously, who the Hell would wanna play for such a lame city like Detroit, that place is a dump, sorta like Oakland
What are you talking about?
Apparently lots of people want to play in Detroit, they landed some of the bigger free agents of the past off seasons.
Ivan "pudge" Rodriguez in early 2003-4
Magglio Ordonez in early 2004-5
Kenny Rogers in early 2005-6
Not to mention a farm system that apparently teaches everyone how to throw 100 mph ...
So obviously there's some mass appeal to playing for one of the oldest franchises in a BRAND NEW STADIUM. Detroit as a city, you can make your own call on that. The tigers will get plenty of press, for most of the season they were the best team in baseball. They are doing the EXACT same thing that the White Sox did last year, its kind of amazing. I'm rooting for the Tigers personally.
I'm kind of sick of this attitude that if a team from new york or boston doesn't win the WS that it doesn't matter, thats just BS. I mean ESPN devotes more time to Joe Torre / A-Rod than to the two CS's.
n8236 said:Wow, the A's really ****ed themselves and perhaps ending their post seasons w/ those errors from each game. Tigers are a good team, but they certainly got away w/ some big breaks. But seriously, who the Hell would wanna play for such a lame city like Detroit, that place is a dump, sorta like Oakland
I think it works out just fine, since none of those cities probably want you there anyway.
Kwyjibo said:
Not that I think Maggs is a "big" free agent. I was happy to unload him, and get a hold of Dye.
Anywho, a GOOD chunk of my family lives in Detroit, and many others on the western side of MI ( The G-Rap!
) . I loved the old ballpark, and up until this year, the tigers fans were pretty cool. I don't mind the Tigers much except for the fans who think they are owed something. I went to the last series the Sox played the Tigers here in Chicago, and I was surrounded by fans worse than Yankees or BoSox fans. Although I'd like to see the A's win it (I hate our division rivals) we've found out the Tigers are probably here to stay. The only upside to the Tigers winning and going to the series is that WE can heckle their fans about 'choking' like they did to us this year, if they don't win the big one.
I don't really consider Magglio a big free agent signing... the interest level in him at the time was pretty low concerning the injury problems he was coming off of. I would grade his signing as a C+ (for the amount required to sign him), and a B to a B+ for the current result.n8236 said:Wow, the A's really ****ed themselves and perhaps ending their post seasons w/ those errors from each game. Tigers are a good team, but they certainly got away w/ some big breaks. But seriously, who the Hell would wanna play for such a lame city like Detroit, that place is a dump, sorta like Oakland
Kenny Rogers, I would put in the class of a hopeful but solid signing at the time.. there were concerns, based in his history, of a second half swoon. He not only worked through early trouble in the second half but proved to be a valuable extra pitching coach for the younger arms (Bonderman, Verlander, et. al.). I'd grade his initial signing as a B- and the end result (World Series or no World Series) for what he's meant to the younger guys as an A. He reminds me a bit of Frank Tanana.
Ivan Rodriguez was a huge signing, although we probably had to over-pay to get him. Coming off of that disastrous 2003 season, we had to over-pay to get him here... but he's lived up to just about everything the Tigers wanted out of him. His power numbers have suspicously gone down since his big years... but he's up there with the best of them in terms of defense, working with the pitchers, and shutting down base-stealers. I'd grade his initial signing an A-, and the end result as an A.
The Tigers are never going to be in the same class as the Yankees or Red Sox in terms of attracting high profile free agents year in and year out. There's not many more teams that even really come close in the rest of the league. What I would be more than happy about is if the Tigers kind of become the Yankees of the Central division. Once you get to the playoffs, just about anything can happen.
stonyc said:
You have to remember that the they made a very detailed contract that he could void if he had that same knee thing again ( I think it was the knee) so it was a very smart move on their part because they limited the downside while maximizing the upside ...
I wasn't trying to say that they had signed the a-rods, or beltrans, just that they had no problem attracting talent. The talent looks good enough to get to the WS now.
stonyc said:The Tigers are never going to be in the same class as the Yankees or Red Sox in terms of attracting high profile free agents year in and year out. There's not many more teams that even really come close in the rest of the league. What I would be more than happy about is if the Tigers kind of become the Yankees of the Central division. Once you get to the playoffs, just about anything can happen.
If the Tigers owner spent as much as it took to contend the way he as for the Red Wings, they'd have been up there with the Red Sox and Yankees years ago. But maybe having a championship hockey team gets you farther in Detroit.
Aren't that impressive.. OK.n8236 said:
Not that spectacular pitching... are you watching any of these games? Kenny Rogers has now been lights out in two consecutive starts. 15 straight scoreless innings, with 14 K's and holding the A's AND the vaunted Yankees to 7 hits. Add in a throttling bullpen and solid outings from Nate Robertson and Jeremy Bonderman... Not spectacular? OK...
And the hitting, with that kind of pitching they don't need "spectacular" hitting. They just need timely hitting and clutch at-bats.. nevermind the fact that it has been "spectacular" on many accounts. HRs from the bottom of the order? Alexis Gomez? Come on.
And as far as getting handed games to them on a silver platter full of errors and mistakes? You're denigrating a team's performance because it's taking advantage of its opponents mistakes... OK.
The Tigers are playing great defense, getting some huge pitching performances, getting timely hitting and genius-level managing. Do you know anything about baseball, at all?