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I updated my wife's iPhone 4s yesterday. Mind you it's been pretty good battery wise so it was a shock to find out her battery drained overnight from 100 to 33 percent sitting on the nightstand. My iPhone 4s was bad when I first got it and then I did a restore like a new phone instead of a backup. That helped tremendously. Now after the update I'm back to crapolla battery life.
 
I updated my wife's iPhone 4s yesterday. Mind you it's been pretty good battery wise so it was a shock to find out her battery drained overnight from 100 to 33 percent sitting on the nightstand. My iPhone 4s was bad when I first got it and then I did a restore like a new phone instead of a backup. That helped tremendously. Now after the update I'm back to crapolla battery life.

Two brand new 4s, one AT&T one Verizon.
Both have not not been connected to any computer.
The battery drain is worse the the drain Barney franks has imposed on the country.
 
Two brand new 4s, one AT&T one Verizon.
Both have not not been connected to any computer.
The battery drain is worse the the drain Barney franks has imposed on the country.

apple so smart every years release new phone but not smart develope a battery
 
Two brand new 4s, one AT&T one Verizon.
Both have not not been connected to any computer.
The battery drain is worse the the drain Barney franks has imposed on the country.


Well Mr. Frank is good at draining things. ;)
 
3G is the battery drain issue for me

Lost 10% in standby but had push on and had 5 emails but still shouldn't of lost that much surely?
 
I wish I had my Usage times but the Springboard reset at about 64% which cleared the usage time until the next full charge.

But, my phone is going on 3+ days off the charger. Now it's not realistic since I'm in Airplane mode with only Wifi on because I'm outside the USA right now, but it's still super impressive.

I've used it PLENTY of times for Safari, Lots and lots of siri, tons of iMessaging, Some GroupMe texts, taking pictures, sending pictures, download 2-3 apps, Gmail account set to fetch every hour and updated to 5.0.1. This thing will not die! I'm currently at 5%. I have all my iCloud services on, and the only location service on is Find my iPhone.

I guess I'm one of the few lucky ones. Both iPhones I've bought (16GB and 64GB white AT&T) have great battery life. Both lasted a full day with heavy use and well into day 2 with moderate use while on at AT&T network :D
 
Hi Everyone.

When everyone first started complaining of this, I thought they were crazy. Here's a screenshot:
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The last two weeks, my battery life has been deteriorating. I don't think it's as bad as others, but definitely a downgrade. I do have to charge once a day now. It's an upgrade from my Evo, so I'm not too disappointed. Just wish I had that initial battery life again. Was really great to go two days without charging!
 
I don't think iOS 5.0.1 did anything to improve my battery life. To me the battery life looks identical to iOS 5 so the update didn't solve or improve the battery for me. I don't think it made it worse either. I wish they would figure already.

iOS 5 screen

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iOS 5.0.1 screen

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Services

  • Siri - On
  • Push email - iCloud
  • Gmail - Manually
  • Wifi (all the time)
  • Bluetooth (all the time - connected when in the car)
  • Location services (all of them)
  • System services (only Call network search - rest are off)
  • Brightness at 35% - Auto
 
I don't think iOS 5.0.1 did anything to improve my battery life. To me the battery life looks identical to iOS 5 so the update didn't solve or improve the battery for me. I don't think it made it worse either. I wish they would figure already.

iOS 5 screen

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iOS 5.0.1 screen

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Services

  • Siri - On
  • Push email - iCloud
  • Gmail - Manually
  • Wifi (all the time)
  • Bluetooth (all the time - connected when in the car)
  • Location services (all of them)
  • System services (only Call network search - rest are off)
  • Brightness at 35% - Auto
You aren't unhappy with those usage numbers are you?

My stats for my first round on ios 5.1 after it died


6 hours, 40 minutes usage
1 day, 2 hours standby

Which I'm very happy with, if I get that most times I will be very happy
 
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I don't think iOS 5.0.1 did anything to improve my battery life. To me the battery life looks identical to iOS 5 so the update didn't solve or improve the battery for me. I don't think it made it worse either. I wish they would figure already.

iOS 5 screen

img0005tr.png



iOS 5.0.1 screen

img0094e.png



Services

  • Siri - On
  • Push email - iCloud
  • Gmail - Manually
  • Wifi (all the time)
  • Bluetooth (all the time - connected when in the car)
  • Location services (all of them)
  • System services (only Call network search - rest are off)
  • Brightness at 35% - Auto

GTFOHWTBS that's great battery life you jaggoff
 
great news , sound like everyone now has good battery , i read last 2 page preview all over 5 hr but no one has been try 80 % brightness , see how long battery if adjust 80 % brightness
 
GTFOHWTBS that's great battery life you jaggoff

my complaint in part is that the new updated software didn't do much towards the original and my battery life is at part not great.

If I had Gmail on push like most people do I think I would be lucky to get 4 hours. My iCloud is not my primary email account.

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You aren't unhappy with those usage numbers are you?

My stats for my first round on ios 5.1 after it died


6 hours, 30 minutes usage
1 day, 2 hours standby

Which I'm very happy with, if I get that most times I will be very happy

I'm happy I get 7 hours but I don't think 7 hours is good battery life but then again I guess that is as good as it gets.
 
After turning pretty much everything off on my 4s and still seeing the battery drain, I got rid of my 3 reminders (one of which was location based) and it seems to be much better. Still not nearly as good as my iphone 4 was before updating to 5.0 but it's a bit more tolerable now.
 
GTFOHWTBS that's great battery life you jaggoff

LoL

This made me smile :D

I'm happy I get 7 hours but I don't think 7 hours is good battery life but then again I guess that is as good as it gets.

Since I see you were on WiFi all day? I would like it to be 10 hours on WiFi but I'm more than content w/ 7 hours at the moment until Apple does some more software battery fixes...
 
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I lost 10% surfing wifi in 40min. Pretty crappy if you ask me. I'm visiting an apple store mid week to get a hair removed from the camera lense, gomma ask that the check the battery, hopin for a true fix soon from apple.
 
And my phone finally dies after almost 3.5 days on wifi only!

Started at 5% this morning to dead in 7 hours with only Wifi on with light use :cool:

I know, I know it's just wifi but I was still using the phone a lot with iMessaging, siri, taking pictures, Safari. I'm impressed
 
Here is mine after the update so far. Some internet browsing, a few calls, some emails and listened to music for about 4 hours
 

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i think my failure to get 6hours of light usage compared to the 8 I used to get one gen back, is indeed because I switched to sprint and signal is always struggling. Might have to go back to att for my sanity.

My friend works at sprint so I can have a 50 dollar a month plan and save a ton of cash. But the reception issues are smoking my battery.
 
The battery life before and after the update is almost identical on my device.
My usage time is a slightly better than before, however this is with minimal standby time.

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Also, is it normal for the Standby counter to increase, even though the screen is on. I'm asking this because my standby time increases even when I'm actively using the device.
 
I already tried explaining the mechanism behind the drain, but everything gets lost very quickly in this thread, noone really reads more than two pages back any more with 100+ pages and counting. Anyone interested enough can use search tab in this thread and find earlier posts with my nick.

Quick recap, just to explain both 7 hours of usage in 24 hours and the fact people loose 10% of battery in 20-40 minutes of browsing on wifi. Many of you might even notice more battery drain on wifi than in 3g, something that should never happen.

The reason, in my humble opinion, is two fold - too aggressive data polling and semi stoned/hanged network connections from system services. Once again, if you want full explanation, you can search the forums, I already ranted the theory out in this thread several thousand pages ago. But in short:
you phone at the moment is doing all kinds of stupid malarky in the background, courtesy of apple -

For starters your iphone has a constant, round robin data connections going out to servers, most noticeably at push.apple.com (this has nothing to do with push services per say, as far as I can see this connections are always there - it's the first connection to open when the phone boots and last connection to go out when the phone shuts down)

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In terms of battery life, the problem is not what this connection does and why it needs to be there all the time - this might or might not be privacy concern for a separate thread - but that's irrelevant to the battery discussion. The connections is there, end of, fact of life, true story, genuine event. What is important is that this constant connection very often gets stoned, hangs, and when that happens the connection never exits and instead the phone remains semi active and eats battery.
What's worse, almost every service connection your iphone systematically opens, is theoretically equally likely to get stoned/become hanged in similar fashion to the main "push.apple.com" connection.
The mechanism is fairly simple - if the socket never closes and the connection remains active listening for the answer that never comes or tries to desperately resubmit some data to the server that no longer reacts, this is the "Usage" you see - with screen off, at night, in your pocket, warming up in your hand with screen off - this is the phone equivalent to "wake on LAN". The darn phone never properly sleeps.

Here's the "proof of concept" in pictures, to make it more clear:

1. *.push.apple.com connection is running, your phone is communicating with apple mothership, but something spooks it, there is some sort of misunderstanding, or you moved out of reach of 3G connection in the middle of communication, for whatever reason the socket is now screwed. If we are to believe netstat utility, what do we see - phone actively tried to talk with the server for total of 21 minutes, and waiting idle for 46 minutes, socket open, it didn't refresh, will not close, keeps on trying to talk - 21 minutes, that's a lot of data connection time. But with statistics like these - the connection is probably stoned.
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How do we know it's stoned and will not sleep/remain active you ask? Well - if I were to enable wifi, all active, live, idling or not connections should move onto wifi, like this:
4snet5.jpg


But instead, everything switches over to wifi, but the stoned socket stays behind - like a dog awaiting his masters voice it stays on 3G and keeps on barking at the moon.
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The answer never comes. Mothership never responds. But now you have your explanation - so what you switched to Wifi - if any of the services on the phone suffered from this stoned/hanged data bug - your active 3G data connection potentially never went away - now both radios are active, the phone drains battery using both 3G and Wifi, switching to wifi was supposed to give you 50% more active time, but instead battery drains much faster.

What's even more stupid, there will be kb's of data involved, tiny or not. As a consequence, if you are abroad, you switched over to your hotel Wifi, you think you're safe, and yet the ****ing phone is still barking through roaming mast, one data connection over stoned socket never switches over to wifi and keeps exchanging data with apple mothership costing you few dollars a day.

What you will also notice in the pictures - is the excessive data spam. With all applications closed, you phone, when active, keeps polling aggregator services at akamai, teliacarrier, amazonaws etc etc. I don't really know wtf iphones are doing with all of those connections, maybe prefetch, maybe check for notifications - again, not relevant to battery discussion - like a virused PC it's exchanging data via http, few kb at a time, without any app asking for it, with pull disabled, with mail fetch set to manual. Connections wake up, connect, disconnect, sockets close and disappear. Trouble of course is - since the stoned/hanged service connection prevents the phone from sleeping - them aggregator connections theoretically will just keep on waking up and polling aggressively all the time when the phone was supposed to be resting.

In my experience, as well, the faster you move between masts (car, train), the more aggressive this polling becomes, it's almost like there was some obsessive "must find another way of data communicating" watchdog running in the background.

And hence the 11 hours "Usage" stats per 12 hours of idle screenshots we see, the wifi that eats through battery faster than 3G mode, unexplained losses of battery over night, phones warming up in pockets etc. All the above is my opinion, and nothing but my opinion of course, but if the theory is correct the more of us testing the quicker we could kick apple into doing something about it.

I can be completely wrong about the whole thing, I'm not IOS developer, I know a lot about BSD but very little about programming for iphone, but what I know for sure, is this - when I keep tabs on the stoned connections, reset network stack if I spot stoned connection or rouge usage in stats and most importantly - don't let push.apple.com block 3G radio from switching off when wifi is in use, my 4S is brilliant. Screw 1 day with 7 hours of usage - real life 7 hours of usage and 3 days before I run out of juice. No cheating, no airplane mode at night etc. Proof of concept:

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If I stop "maintaining" it actively and let it go, sooner or later, especially during working week when I move a lot, the "stoned" socket bug returns and I get 12-24 hours standby time from my phone.
 
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