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jasko said:
Heavy use from me today.
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That is similar to what I am getting. Do you think that's good?
 
If you want to exchange your phone, how does the Genius analyze your battery issues or does he just take your word and swap your phone since it seems to be a mass issue?
 
Probably like a lot of people in this forum, I've been lurking this thread, trying the random "problem solved!" ideas thrown out there, and having various levels of success.

So, let me throw out yet another thing-to-try/idea-of-what's-going-on:

Yesterday I finally went through a full restore, shut off all System Services location tracking, and shut off all iCloud functions (except find my iPhone).

The next morning, after a full charge and then ~4 hours of light intermittent email reading, I was at 92% battery... things were looking good!

I then checked out facebook, and noticed that it was "jumpy" when scrolling and had delays when browsing the news feed and loading items. This happened a few days ago on my 4S, where I immediately did a full reset and things were back to normal.

This time, I got distracted, so I just put the phone to sleep. 90 mins later, I looked at the phone and I was at ~60% battery available.

This is far from conclusive - I'm going to try more rigorous experiments with facebook killed vs. loaded, but that's going to take a few days. Others may want to chime in if they too have noticed FB being "jumpy" - maybe it's just something weird happening on my phone.
 
Probably like a lot of people in this forum, I've been lurking this thread, trying the random "problem solved!" ideas thrown out there, and having various levels of success.

So, let me throw out yet another thing-to-try/idea-of-what's-going-on:

Yesterday I finally went through a full restore, shut off all System Services location tracking, and shut off all iCloud functions (except find my iPhone).

The next morning, after a full charge and then ~4 hours of light intermittent email reading, I was at 92% battery... things were looking good!

I then checked out facebook, and noticed that it was "jumpy" when scrolling and had delays when browsing the news feed and loading items. This happened a few days ago on my 4S, where I immediately did a full reset and things were back to normal.

This time, I got distracted, so I just put the phone to sleep. 90 mins later, I looked at the phone and I was at ~60% battery available.

This is far from conclusive - I'm going to try more rigorous experiments with facebook killed vs. loaded, but that's going to take a few days. Others may want to chime in if they too have noticed FB being "jumpy" - maybe it's just something weird happening on my phone.

just out of curiosity, did you happen to be plugged in to an AC charger when you noticed this "jumpiness"? I've noticed that twice after the phone reaches a full charge,in both cases after charging using a non-OEM charger. Web pages don't scroll correctly, touchscreen less responsive....and fixed right away after a reboot.
 
just out of curiosity, did you happen to be plugged in to an AC charger when you noticed this "jumpiness"? I've noticed that twice after the phone reaches a full charge,in both cases after charging using a non-OEM charger. Web pages don't scroll correctly, touchscreen less responsive....and fixed right away after a reboot.


No - I only charged over the previous night. I've only noticed the jumpiness/stuttering in the facebook app so far, both times while running on a partially discharged battery.
 
I dunno, this seems pretty darn good to me. This is a 64GB 4S, I have these settings:

Settings > Location Services > System Services
All ON except:
Compass Calibration: OFF
Location-Based iAds: OFF
Setting Time Zone: OFF

Settings > General Settings > Siri
Raise to Speak: OFF (just never use raise to speak anyway)

Bluetooth: Always on
WiFi: on about half the time

iCloud
All OFF except:
Photo Stream: ON
Documents & Data: ON
Find My iPhone: ON

Screen Brightness:
45%

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If you want to exchange your phone, how does the Genius analyze your battery issues or does he just take your word and swap your phone since it seems to be a mass issue?

The first iPhone 4S I brought in, was taken in the back by the genius. After waiting & waiting very patiently I finally had to ask someone to check how much longer it would be. A few minutes later he emerged with a new phone for me.

The second one I took in (also dead) was replaced without a single question or delay. I purposely did not ask, his body language spoke volumes and frankly I'm still rather disappointed with all the problems that have surfaced as documented in many forums.

I bought Apple Care, and the Apple store is nearby, so I've resigned myself to another year like last years debacle with the iP4. Replacement after replacement, after replacement. That's the only reason I bought Apple Care this time around. It's great insurance against declining quality control.
 
I dunno, this seems pretty darn good to me. This is a 64GB 4S, I have these settings:

Settings > Location Services > System Services
All ON except:
Compass Calibration: OFF
Location-Based iAds: OFF
Setting Time Zone: OFF

Settings > General Settings > Siri
Raise to Speak: OFF (just never use raise to speak anyway)

Bluetooth: Always on
WiFi: on about half the tim

iCloud
All OFF except:
Photo Stream: ON
Documents & Data: ON
Find My iPhone: ON

Screen Brightness:


45%

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what about email?
 
Siri, Location turned off. Everything else is on.
 

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what about email?

One GMail account, one IMAP account. Both set to Fetch hourly.

Honestly, I think my battery life has improved over time. I've done a couple complete battery drain then recharge calibrations over the last week and that has definitely helped.
 
I got a replacement 4S today via courier due to screen issues.

I have both new and old here atm.

Restored from the same back up on both.

iTunes wifi sync off

iCloud off

Location services off for those system ones

Wifi on

Bluetooth off

Siri raise to speak off

Auto time zone off

Old phone no sim is at 93% with 16 min usage 2hrs 53 min standby.

New phone with sim is at 96% with 17 min usage 2hrs 53 min standby.

I guess my old phone had some kind of battery issue too :eek:
 
I got a replacement 4S today via courier due to screen issues.

I have both new and old here atm.

Restored from the same back up on both.

iTunes wifi sync off

iCloud off

Location services off for those system ones

Wifi on

Bluetooth off

Siri raise to speak off

Auto time zone off

Old phone no sim is at 93% with 16 min usage 2hrs 53 min standby.

New phone with sim is at 96% with 17 min usage 2hrs 53 min standby.

I guess my old phone had some kind of battery issue too :eek:

Without a SIM, aren't you not using any cellular "bandwidth" which would slowly eat battery as well. Not a true comparison unless it was in airplane mode no?
 
It would be nice for apple to somewhat publicly acknowledge the battery issue. I mean people have 30 days to decide to keep your product, give them some reassurance that you are aware and working to resolve. I asked the store rep yesterday if he has been seeing alot of people with battery issues with the 4s. He said yes, they've been telling people to shut off apps that use location services that don't really need to be using them.

I was one of the lucky users with this battery issue and was also selected by Apple to install the power logging profile. I've been working with them for a week and was even asked to keep a manual log of everything I did on the phone over a 48 hour period. The first logs I sent them showed I was a heavy user and was on the device 2.5 hours straight at one point and they said it was performing fine. I said, that isn't possible I was on it that long continuously. So that's why they wanted my logs to correlate to the time stamps in their powerlog program.

So still waiting for the next set of reviews of that and have removed this special profile, however I noticed it is still running and creating a 36 mg file on my device each day. When I was on the phone with him last night he had to put me on hold as he said "ummmmm....4 engineers just showed up at my cube over this issue"

The first step was to reset all my network settings and reboot. He said that would just require me to re-enter the WIFI passwords. Well it was much much more than that (lost weather cities, all my stocks, default email address, ringtones, home screen image, notification settings, tons of random settings). So bottom line is in trying to help them resolve this battery issue (which oh by the way he still says they aren't convinced is a real issue), it created a new problem for me!!

He claims there may be a lot of chatter on the internet about this but when they sell 4M iPhones and 1% complain that is acceptable range and is a large # of people. Industry average they operate by for fault tolerance is 5% and under is acceptable!!

He gave me the party line of it is so hard to test these days for all the different configurations, apps, variables, hardware differences, etc...which I can imagine is difficult. However what I can't understand is how with what I have provided they still can't make a better determination of what is causing my drain. Not to mention get rid of this logging program that they had me install. Not looking forward to my continued call with them tonight which is next to uninstall gmail, Reinstall the profile, Remove the profile, & Reinstall gmail.

Then hope that works as they don't seem clear on a solid fix.

URGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Real quick. Has anyone in this thread done a good extensive test comparing the 4S to the 4 with both phone setup as new on iOS5? Very interested to see those test results.
 
Without a SIM, aren't you not using any cellular "bandwidth" which would slowly eat battery as well. Not a true comparison unless it was in airplane mode no?

I thought no sim = no cell activity.

Just checked again now the old one is down to 89% whilst the new on is at 94%
 
My battery life sucks but I just make sure I have it charging when I have a chance to have it charged. I haven't had any issues so far.
 
My quotes were featured in the macrumors article on battery life (from the Guardian) after Apple contacted me and installed diagnostics on my iPhone. The Apple engineer called back today and asked if he could monitor my usage again - this time rather than install a mobileconfig he asked me to type some numbers/hash/star into the phone keypad and a dialog box came up then a reboot. He is going to call back tomorrow when I am next to my mac to collect the info (last time I synced and then zipped a file from the logs)

Hopefully they will get to the bottom of this soon.
 
Hmm... my phone is at 58% and says I have 2 hours 11 minutes of usage. I have used around 1 hour 20 minutes max... Something must be running in the background when my phone is supposedly idle.

Does anyone else have incorrect usage numbers?
 
Hmm... my phone is at 58% and says I have 2 hours 11 minutes of usage. I have used around 1 hour 20 minutes max... Something must be running in the background when my phone is supposedly idle.

Does anyone else have incorrect usage numbers?

Maybe its the email push/fetch?
 
How many iPhone 4s users will wake up this morning with ridiculously low batteries? It seems with Siri, location based reminders, iCloud, iTunes sync, etc. This may be a real issue.

I'm not against charging my new phone whenever I'm near a plugin, but that kind of defeats the point of having a mobile phone. I will try turning off features to save power and see if it defeats the whole new ios5 experience.

Please, other iPhone 4s users weigh in this morning, honestly.

Are you mad?
 
something is going on in the backgound. To test this futher, i charged my old iphone 4 up and left it on my desk... 3 days later and the battery seems ok, but somehow i have over 6 hours of usage. So something is running in the background. For the first 2 days i had it in airplane mode. By the way my iphone 4s is still pretty bad --- 4 1/2 hours of usage per day on my full charges... hopefully a fix is coming soon... jer
 
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