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Of course this is all predicated on Apple not shutting them down.
Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with. Throughout this "use iMessage on Android" wave during the years... no one actually decided to charge people for it.

It's always been free for people to access the project and I'm curious what Apple reaction will be.
 
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And you can choose to android lmao. Apple is not forcing you to use it.
I also have to be forced to deal with my mother's pixel.

Weird definition of “force” ya got there.

sad...that a color of a text makes you feel left out but i digress.

Yeah man, you nailed it. It’s that simple. They don’t care about breaking their group chats or sending non-pixelated media to people. They just want blue bubbles and to fool people on the other end that they have an iPhone.
 
And how exactly can apple tell which is a real apple device and which is fake? They can't, unless they rewrite the entire way iMessage operates. They could do that, but then that would also render all of the older I-devices, the ones that no longer receive updates, unable to send iMessages. Do they really want to do that? We'll see I guess.
Apple Can tell if your using an Apple Supplied Display or Apple Supplied Battery, they can easily tell if your using a real Apple Device. They'll just have the UUID of the device get wrapped up in the hash when you make the request and it'll work, new and old devices a like. as long as they can receive security updates, they can still receive iMessages. And if not, all existing devices could still work, just no new devices/accounts could register going forward.
 
Weird definition of “force” ya got there.



Yeah man, you nailed it. It’s that simple. They don’t care about breaking their group chats or sending non-pixelated media to people. They just want blue bubbles and to fool people on the other end that they have an iPhone.

I really don't think you should be the one deciding why people are using this. You haven't met them and they aren't posting here, so anything anyone posts is just baseless speculation and should be treated as such.

I personally don't care either way. I'm in the US, but barely use iMessage as the people I chat with the most don't use it.

Edit: Missed the sarcasm!
 
Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with. Throughout this "use iMessage on Android" wave throughout the years... no one actually decided to charge people for it.

It's always been free for people to access the project and I'm curious what Apple reaction will be.
This is what I'm concerned about too. Until now it's all fun and games but once you start monetizing it's a different ballpark. I'd be shocked if Apple takes no action on this. From what I read there still seems to be some Apple proprietary code which, big surprise, a 16 year old may have missed. I feel like this was cooked up out of a Seinfeld episode. Where George tells Steinbrenner everything he sucks at and Steinbrenner says "hire this man!" 😂😂😂. How anyone would trust a 16 year old to mess with Apple is beyond me but I digress.

Until this gets shut down I'm riding the wave and enjoying!
 
Will let this play out for a few weeks. If it remains stable, will be switching to Pixel. iMessage is the only real advantage at this juncture.
Android has really matured and is a pleasure to use in many ways. But the third party app ecosystem and culture is just so poor compared to iOS.

Android’s advantage with less stringent app guidelines aside, the best of breed apps on iOS utterly crush what passes for best in Google Play. Apple arguably put years into building a passionate and talented developer community and it shows (even if they seem to take them for granted quite frequently).
 
Also weird when people say I should just go download 13 different apps instead of using Apple’s own default texting app????

What in the world???
 
Google's RCS implementation is end to end encrypted. Apple is choosing to use the universal profile implementation which at current time *not* only not end to end encrypted, but not encrypted at all.
You got some heavy misinformation there. RCS uses encryption in transit, so it does have encryption. Just not end to end, which they are going to work on with the GSMA (or want to work on).
Doesn't apple degrade the quality of videos sent from an android? So you should blame apple just like Apple is the one who won't implement RCS until now.
They degrade nothing, that‘s just the size limitation of MMS. That also happens on Android and co., nothing Apple can do other than… provide RCS support or do funky things like send an iCloud photo link containing the media instead. There is simply no way to send proper media with MMS when you need to fit in a fraction of a megabyte size limit.
 
I rotate between Android and iOS devices so I don't care about green or blue bubbles and I won't pay a 3rd party company for iMessage not knowing how exactly they got it to work. I'll just wait for Apple to implement RCS so I can send high quality media to iOS devices from my Android devices. When I use my iPhone I turn off iMessage to avoid any messaging issues when switching back and forth.

In regards to the article ignoring guys with green bubbles which is ridiculous...It looks like they only choose guys based on the color of their bubbles and not phones which is pathetic of them. I have an iPhone and send green bubbles so i guess I would be ignored haha.
 
They are both massive for-profit companies and I don't care who copies who, for whatever reason they want to copy, nor do I care who came first or invented something first..

Use what is best for you and ignore the silly "who's on first" nonsense of companies who don't care whether you exist or not.
Apple and Facebook and Microsoft have their own Messaging apps that everyone uses everyday.

Google is shilling for an already obsolete SMS/MMS replacement. Where is Google's Messaging app?

Apple: iMessage
Facebook: WhatsApp, Messenger
Microsoft: Teams
Cisco: WebEx
Others: Signal, Telegram, Discord, etc.

All of the above do far more than RCS does, and RCS will take years catching up to where the above messaging apps are TODAY.
 
I thought Apple's whole M.O. was that they waited for technology to develop/mature, so by the time they released their own product it would be fully fleshed-out and a much better experience?

That happened with Blackberry/PDAs, that happened with the OG Windows tablets from the early 2000s, and it looks like that might also happen with AR/VR. Hell, you could even argue that happened with BBM.

It can't be both ways. They can't wait for the technology to develop while simultaneously being copied.
Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what I use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....

Tell me one thing RCS does that Messenger, iMessage, WhatsApp, Discord, etc doesn't already do TODAY?
 
I just tried and wow...it really works well and VERY simple to setup.

This is a game changer. Lol. My iPhone friends were like...welcome back. And I'm laughing because I'm sending it from my Android phone.
Enjoy the few days this works while you can!
 
Wow that post is a ride! I mean, no copied code so no plagiarism. Google has developed their own messaging app... like, loads of times, they can't seem to stop, it's honestly a meme at this point. Tensor is based on Samsung's Exynos lineup, nothing to do with Qualcomm's Snapdragon line. Google's RCS is actually more well developed than the version of RCS that Apple will be implementing next year, though Apple claims they're working with the GSCM on that. And this app didn't reverse engineer an "exploit", it's Apple's notification framework as designed, they just figured out how to tap into it using the same methodologies as hackintosh users, who haven't exactly been locked out yet.

Wild how just about every sentence there was wrong! Let's see, anything else? Oh, right, this app wasn't made by Google. Like, Google had nothing to do with it. So your open letter to Google at the end there is uh... seemingly in the completely wrong thread.
What is Google's messaging app? I googled it and found Hangouts...and the built in Messaging App.....which uses SMS/MMS

I'm sorry, I don't see how Exynos is a compliment....you actually just made Tensor sound worse....Snapdragon is superior...

And if Android's best new messaging "App" is using iMessage without logging in to iMessage, that is an exploit. How do you use something without logging into it? What is this, Windows 3.1?

And I don't care about RCS because I HAVE AN iPHONE....WHY THE **** WOULD I WANT TO SEND A TEXT MESSAGE???????????????????

FACEBOOK MESSENGER, FACEBOOK WHATSAPP, MICROSOFT TEAMS, DISCORD......WHY THE **** IS GOOGLE BITCHING ABOUT AN OBSOLETE REPLACEMENT FOR MMS/SMS WHEN THERE ARE 15 OTHER SUPERIOR MESSAGING APPS THAT DON'T RELY ON THE OLD GSCM ALLIANCE?

Are you kidding me?

Copy pasted from another response I gave someone just to see if maybe you can't read all caps:

Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what I use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....

Tell me one thing RCS does that Messenger, iMessage, WhatsApp, Discord, etc doesn't already do TODAY?
 
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Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what I use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....
SMS is bad. RCS is less bad. Without RCS on all devices, people default to SMS, which is worse. It doesn’t matter that iMessage and every other messenger is better. It’s what people use.

This would be a much lesser issue if Apple allowed iMessage on Android.
 
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Kind of a strange, misdirected rant given that the Beeper has nothing to do with Google.
Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what people use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....

Tell me one thing RCS does that Messenger, iMessage, WhatsApp, Discord, etc doesn't already do TODAY?
 
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Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what people use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....

Tell me one thing RCS does that Messenger, iMessage, WhatsApp, Discord, etc doesn't already do TODAY?

It doesn't matter what they do today, it matters that SMS/MMS is obsolete and needs to be deprecated, and RCS should replace it.

RCS doesn't need an account with any of these companies, in fact RCS doesn't need an account with anyone other than your cell carrier. It also doesn't require downloading or installing anything. I consider both of those a giant plus.
 
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Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what people use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....

Tell me one thing RCS does that Messenger, iMessage, WhatsApp, Discord, etc doesn't already do TODAY?
RCS works automatically, providing enhanced messaging without needing to sign up for anything or be configured by anybody. But again, your reply doesn't make ANY SENSE in the context of this article about Beeper.
 
What is Google's messaging app? I googled it and found Hangouts...and the built in Messaging App.....which uses SMS/MMS

I'm sorry, I don't see how Exynos is a compliment....you actually just made Tensor sound worse....Snapdragon is superior...

And if Android's best new messaging "App" is using iMessage without logging in to iMessage, that is an exploit. How do you use something without logging into it? What is this, Windows 3.1?

And I don't care about RCS because I HAVE AN iPHONE....WHY THE **** WOULD I WANT TO SEND A TEXT MESSAGE???????????????????

FACEBOOK MESSENGER, FACEBOOK WHATSAPP, MICROSOFT TEAMS, DISCORD......WHY THE **** IS GOOGLE BITCHING ABOUT AN OBSOLETE REPLACEMENT FOR MMS/SMS WHEN THERE ARE 15 OTHER SUPERIOR MESSAGING APPS THAT DON'T RELY ON THE OLD GSCM ALLIANCE?

Are you kidding me?

Copy pasted from another response I gave someone just to see if maybe you can't read all caps:

Well, iMessage is still not as good as WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger.....which is what I use a majority of the day....so Google is chasing iMessage.....with RCS? RCS is already obsolete....and it hasn't even been implemented yet.....

Tell me one thing RCS does that Messenger, iMessage, WhatsApp, Discord, etc doesn't already do TODAY?
That you claim to have googled Google's messaging app and came out of that search with Hangouts is never not going to be hilarious to me. My point-by-point discussion service is sadly a one-time-only reply, but I just wanted to chime in here and commend you for a level of messaging-app and platform evangelism that would make the Council of Clermont say "whoa now, maybe tone it down a touch." That is, honestly, remarkable!

I wonder if Beeper even suspected their little messaging app would stir such feelings in people who can't even download the thing?
 
I wonder if Beeper even suspected their little messaging app would stir such feelings in people who can't even download the thing?
Sure. But that ignores the fact that it can affect those of us who can't download the thing. We can no longer trust the blue bubble users are using iMessage.
 
Android has really matured and is a pleasure to use in many ways. But the third party app ecosystem and culture is just so poor compared to iOS.

Android’s advantage with less stringent app guidelines aside, the best of breed apps on iOS utterly crush what passes for best in Google Play. Apple arguably put years into building a passionate and talented developer community and it shows (even if they seem to take them for granted quite frequently).

I had to reread your post a couple of times thinking I was missing something.
I am not a huge game user. For the rest of the apps, some may look prettier in iOS, but as to functionality I frequently find better results on Android. Then I also have side loading. What I find missing on Android are tablet apps.
I use a S23U and 15PM and they use the same or similar apps. I do have more options in Android.

Back to iMessage and RCS, take those out of the picture and both OS’s use pretty much the same when it comes to “text/chat” apps. It would be nice if I could actually get actual iMessage protocol on Android and actual protocol RCS on iOS. Maybe a smart or AI driven front end that handles all manner of chat. OS agnostic.
 
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