It was in the court documents (Epic vs Apple) ... Apple contemplating adding iMessage to Android but refused to since it was a lock-in mechanism.
iMessage might not fall into your top 10 reasons, but according to over 80% of teens in the US it does.
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iMessage might not fall into your top 10 reasons, but according to over 80% of teens in the US it does.
I can, but other people can't. My wife is Attorney, for example, and she has to communicate with people how they can. "Naa, Judge. I didn't contact him because he doesn't use an iPhone." I'll go ahead and exclude people who can't afford an Apple device, while I'm at it.
I'm not going to be a classist dick. Get real.
Anyway, I'm done with this pointless conversation about Beeper.
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Who was the first person to think about an SMS platform? Who was the first person to think about the iMessage service? Those people didn't think it was the silliest. We have a saying in the weightlifting community, "excuses don't burn calories".
I thought Apple was going to hit them with a cease and desist or a temporary restraining order.
It's hard for me to imagine iMessage being THAT attractive too. I imagine most people using iMessage simply regard it as a texting tool and don't think much about its other features like Tapback and what not.
Let's call it what it is.
Android users see Apple as evil and anyone who supports Apple blocking Beeper is a sheep. We apparently can't think for ourselves. They can't fathom why we dont use Android. Why we dont care about an open ecosystem which goes against the very reason most of us use Apple. Can't understand that even though Apple dominates the smartphone market in the US, it in fact does not dominate the messaging market in the US.
Android users feel as if it is Apple's fault that because we are happy with iMessage and have no real need to download any other app that they are mind-controlling us. Because God forbid Apple makes a good product....they are somehow wrong for that.
Beeper comes along and is suddenyl the robin hood standing up to fight the big bad evil that is Apple. But charging people 3 bucks and making quite a bit of fast cash only to sit and then play victim about how all they want is for apple users and android users to be able to live in peace. But in order to do that, they need to be able to trick iPhone users into thinking they are using iMessage.
Now we have some android users who are actually buying old macs and iPhones just to get blue bubbles. But it's not about blue bubbles....even though Beeper's entire website and marketing and even the name of the app mentions blue bubbles everywhere, it's not about blue bubbles.
And in the end they are right....somewhat. It is about blue bubbles and whatever perceived mythical power they have. But also
It's about trying to stick it to Apple for creating a product that they want and can't get.
That's a bit extreme. So effectively cut off friends and family because of alack of blue bubbles or RCS.
how about dont discuss anything you are afraid people will see.
Apple could release it today. If it is not working as reliably as SMS then people will turn it off. As i have read there are reliability issues with RCS.
Imagine begging Apple to bring RCS and then still nobody is using it. I know i am turning it off when it comes.
Well hopefully the state of IOS doesnt fall onto the whims of teenagers. That's your argument?
iMessage is not the reason most people prefer Apple. Now had you said ECOSYTEM, i could agree there.
What's hilarious is that Google wants to lock you into their ecosystem. Why do you think they are trying to push chromebooks in schools now to get the young kids using their products early.
Every company wants you locked in.
Microsoft has me locked in at 27 years old. Not because it is better. It is because it is what I am used to. I just got my first Macbook Pro last week and lovde it. After 10 years of surface products and using windows since I think the 95 days or 98 at least.
All these companies want you locked in because we are the product.
But iMessage is not the reason why we are "locked in". Microsoft nor Google have as strong an ecosystem as Apple. Individually, yes there are products or services that the others offer that is better. I won't deny that but as it stands, Apple's ecosystem is unmatched and that is why these competitors are so threatend by it and that is why we as Apple users continue to use it.
So no iMessage is not the reason why I or even most people choose iPhone. I have a mac, an ipad, and iphone that can seamleslly work together in perfect harmony. Along with my airpods and my apple watch. I use iCloud service. I use things like Apple pay. I use things like iMessage. I use Apple home. Apple tv. Carplay. I use things like Family sharing. It is so much easier with an iPhone user to share files or information directly vs android where we have to hope we have the same app/same OS version to be able to do this or that. Apple care is unmatched from any support from any OEM i have used.
At any point in time, I can switch back to my Galay S22 and use it. I could survive with it but i'd be miserable because Android does not have that same strong ecosystem where everything works in perfect harmony together. Even when I was a windows phone girl and Xbox, Microsoft (Sort of) didnt have that harmony.
That's obviously not true.
I honestly can say in about 10 years of using Apple products the only time i used
1. Memojis= were literally when they first came out and i thought they were cool.
2. Text message- i only ironically use them when i have nothing to say so instead of typing lol or <3 or something I will use the reacts aka you can tell when i am bored with the convo.
3. I JUST found out last month imessage has a specific store lmao.
Before this whole beeper dilemma, i have always simply thought of iMessage as text messaging. If they are blue, it's an IOS user and if it is green, its not. I never cared what color or what phone someone was.
I also (like a lot of IOS users) use snapchat, instagram, messenger, whatsapp, telegram, discord, and kik messenger for other people so i have never been "limited" as beeper and thei rsupporters have tried to make me and IOS users sound like we are a victim to apple lol
That's obviously not true.
That's less than 20% of the US population, and the majority of them use WhatsApp to communicate with family/friends outside the US, not with their local friends.
I have it installed and have used it...for when I travel outside the US. I guess I'm in that list of users even though I haven't opened it in six months.
I know quite a few Android users and literally none of them have such blue bubble envy that they'd resort to using this app, let alone the hoops people have to jump through. I'm not really sure who the market is for this given that SMS is currently fine for 95% of use cases and RCS will bridge most of the gaps next year.
That's obviously not true.
You beat me to it. Also to piggy back off your post,
United States: messenger app penetration 2024| Statista
According to a survey conducted among internet users in the United States in 2024, Facebook Messenger was the most popular messaging service, with 55 percent of respondents using it.
www.statista.com
Messenger has over 30 percent marketshare in America and imessage only has 17 percent. Whatsapp is not that far behind with 12 percent.
You beat me to it. Also to piggy back off your post,
United States: messenger app penetration 2024| Statista
According to a survey conducted among internet users in the United States in 2024, Facebook Messenger was the most popular messaging service, with 55 percent of respondents using it.
Messenger has over 30 percent marketshare in America and imessage only has 17 percent. Whatsapp is not that far behind with 12 percent.
Messenger has a big following. I use it significantly more than iMessage (I'm the US) since it's cross-platform, and I can use it in my work computer.
Read the link i wrote you above.
there are about 300 million people in America. 20 percent is not a small amount by any means.
Furthermore, Messenger is widely more used (since most people have a FB before a Whatsapp)
Yes so if you combine Messenger and Whatsapp (since they are both Meta apps) along with Instagram, Facebook/Meta actually is the dominating messaging platform.
In fact if you look at the link i wrote you every app on that list is crossplatform EXCEPT for iMessage. So that does poke holes in your argument that people dont use other apps. Because we obviously do and even with the iphone being the more popular phone people are not using iMessage to the same degree.
I didn't say people don't use other apps, I said they don't use WhatsApp.
US population is pushing 340million now, not 300.
The point I'm making is that... familiarity helps with buying decision making.
If a teenager starts with an iPhone and their social circle uses iMessage... most likely they will continue to use an iPhone throughout their adulthood.
And iMessage is part of Apple's ecosystem. Given that it's tied to their devices.
It's 28% of smartphone users and you made the rest up. 85.8 million users in the US alone is far from "No one in US or Canada."
Nope. It only counts users who access WhatsApp once per month.
Till if you round 68 million to 70 million that still is 1/5 of the poulation which is not a small number by any means. SO yes, plenty of people are using whatsapp.
That's literally about how many galaxy or iPhones are sold each year lol.
I think it was supposed to be a pun.
"Jailbreak" aka rescue blue bubbles from the apple prison
LMAO
I’m not sure what relevance that has to the fact that you’re suggesting something completely impossible in 2023.
Hmm.... overstated.
I do use WhatsApp. I have to to communicate with my friends and relatives outside N America who are using WhatsApp ;-) It's not a big deal except I'd prefer that they used Signal, which I also do use.
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