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So after you use Face ID to unlock, then you have to swipe up to open the home screen,....really ? With touch ID, you touch it and it opens up to the home screen without swiping. Am I missing something or is this a double step that touch ID does not have ?

How would you ever see your own lock screen if it went straight to the home screen as soon as the phone sees your face?
 
At 8:33 in the apple employee had been looking at the screen a few seconds and the lock icon was still showing locked, only after swiping up did it finally authenticate correctly, so quite slow in that instance. There seems to be a wide variation on how long it takes to authenticate.

"...looking at the screen a few seconds..." really? at 8:33 she looks at the phone and at 8:34 the phone is unlocked. It's hard to see if she was looking at the screen at 8:33 when he was pointing the screen at her face. In any case at 8:34 the phone was unlocked.
 
How would you ever see your own lock screen if it went straight to the home screen as soon as the phone sees your face?

a delay? or side button? (just not a huge fan of swipe gestures). But it sounds ok. Maybe we will have options.
 
Because people want to see their Notifications without it immediately going to the Home Screen just because they look at their phone.

How would you ever see your own lock screen if it went straight to the home screen as soon as the phone sees your face?
Some people (including myself) prefer the phone to go straight to the home screen once TouchID authenticates. This way I can pull it out of my pocket and have it already at the home screen once I've brought the phone up to use. If I want to see notifications I just pull down the shade.
 
It’s the same thing. Pick up your phone and swipe to get to home screen. Or pick up your phone and push the home button to go to the home screen. Same thing. One step.

That’s not how I do it. Phone on table, press touch ID and it opens to the home screen. With the iPhone X you (1) have to show your freaking face to the screen, which will unlock it, (2) then swipe up.
 
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That’s not how I do it. Phone on table, press touch ID and it opens to the home screen. With the iPhone X you (1) have to show your freaking face to the screen, which will unlock it, (2) then swipe up.

So you never pick up your phone to use it after that? Do everything one handed while laying on a table? I don't know, I guess the phone isn't for you then. I don't see it as very complicated at all. The only time I turn my phone on while on my desk is to check notifications. Tap to wake will work fine here. If I want to go to the home screen/use the phone, I will pick it up and then swipe up. I don't consider looking at my phone a step because I would look at it no matter what.
 
You still don’t get it do you? The iPhone 10 or X still needs 2 steps to open to the home screen, while the touch ID only needs one step. A number of times I will just press on touch ID on a desk and not pick up the darn phone.
 
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a delay? or side button? (just not a huge fan of swipe gestures). But it sounds ok. Maybe we will have options.

A delay doesn't make much sense. How would the phone know how long you want to see the lock screen? Sometimes you might be reading a notification, and other times you want to go directly to the home screen. I agree that it's actually seems less convenient than what most of us are used to with Touch ID, but it's necessary for there to be some deliberate interaction on the user's part, just like for Apple Pay, rather than have the phone perform these actions automatically just because you look at it.
 
You still don’t get it do you? The iPhone 10 or X still needs 2 steps to open to the home screen, while the touch ID only needs one step. A number of times I will just press on touch ID on a desk and not pick up the darn phone.

No, I understand. I guess it just doesn't bother me as I usually pick up my phone to use it. Or I don't mind tapping to wake and then swiping up. As I mentioned, I guess the X isn't for you.
 
Some people (including myself) prefer the phone to go straight to the home screen once TouchID authenticates. This way I can pull it out of my pocket and have it already at the home screen once I've brought the phone up to use. If I want to see notifications I just pull down the shade.

That's fair, and I genuinely hope that there is a setting allows for this, just as there is with TouchID.
 
You still don’t get it do you? The iPhone 10 or X still needs 2 steps to open to the home screen, while the touch ID only needs one step. A number of times I will just press on touch ID on a desk and not pick up the darn phone.

Yes, it's different now and requires the agonizing effort of flicking up with your thumb once the phone unlocks, which from the video takes perhaps 1 second in most cases to happen.

You seem to want the phone to unlock and go straight to the home screen, but that's not ideal either as many of us just want to view our notifications while looking at the phone... doing it your way would be more of an inconvenience than having to flip up to go home after unlocking.
 
Yes, it's different now and requires the agonizing effort of flicking up with your thumb once the phone unlocks, which from the video takes perhaps 1 second in most cases to happen.

You seem to want the phone to unlock and go straight to the home screen, but that's not ideal either as many of us just want to view our notifications while looking at the phone... doing it your way would be more of an inconvenience than having to flip up to go home after unlocking.

How about both ways with a setting. Simple
 
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The reason the phone does not go to the home screen is that unlike the touch ID, the instant you see the phone, it will unlock, this will not give you time to look at the notifications. the purpose to swipe up is to move past notifications
 
Yes, it's different now and requires the agonizing effort of flicking up with your thumb once the phone unlocks, which from the video takes perhaps 1 second in most cases to happen.

You seem to want the phone to unlock and go straight to the home screen, but that's not ideal either as many of us just want to view our notifications while looking at the phone... doing it your way would be more of an inconvenience than having to flip up to go home after unlocking.
Yeah i meant with rise to wake if you just unlocked it as you picked it up you may want to see your notifications. Not like with Touch ID when you pick up the phone now you at least can see your notifications before you put your finger on the home button so a swipe is needed imo and it takes like 1 sec to swipe so it;s hardly an issue.
 
Two things:

1.) Face ID is much faster than I thought it would be. Almost instantaneous when looking at that female.

2.) I barely even noticed the notch during the entire review of the iPhone. It really wasn't that distracting.

The review (had seen this previously) sounded more like a sales pitch than a real review.

FaceID - would have been great of they would show in low/poor light

During work my current 7+ sits on my desk within reach and I frequently use TouchID to unlock and check the phone ... with FaceID you have to pick up, unlock, then swipe. This is also a reason I am not a big fan of TouchID on the back.

Like I have mentioned previously, I will want to try in hand.
Too many questions ...
 
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How about both ways with a setting. Simple

I agree that a setting would allow both use cases so "everyone is happy". However Apple is very careful about what things they supply settings for and could have a legitimate reason for not allowing settings control of this behavior.
 
So after you use Face ID to unlock, then you have to swipe up to open the home screen,....really ? With touch ID, you touch it and it opens up to the home screen without swiping. Am I missing something or is this a double step that touch ID does not have ?

So it's now a swipe instead of a press.
 
You seem to want the phone to unlock and go straight to the home screen, but that's not ideal either as many of us just want to view our notifications while looking at the phone... doing it your way would be more of an inconvenience than having to flip up to go home after unlocking.
If I don't want it to unlock but I still want to just see notifications (and it's on my desk) I just hit the home button with a finger I haven't trained TouchID on. If I'm taking it out of a pocket and just want to see notifications then I don't have to do anything with Raise to Wake.

TouchID currently lets me choose the best of both worlds from a UX-perspective depending on how I'd like to view my device at the given time. If FaceID doesn't allow the same Accessibility tweak that TouchID does then I'd lose this convenience :\
 
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The review (had seen this previously) sounded more like a sales pitch than a real review.

FaceID - would have been great of they would show in low/poor light

During work my current 7+ sits on my desk within reach and I frequently use TouchID to unlock and check the phone ... with FaceID you have to pick up, unlock, then swipe. This is also a reason I am not a big fan of TouchID on the back.

Like I have mentioned previously, I will want to try in hand.
Too many questions ...

Don't you look at your phone to use it? Why is this an extra step?
 
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If I don't want it to unlock but I still want to just see notifications (and it's on my desk) I just hit the home button with a finger I haven't trained TouchID on. If I'm taking it out of a pocket and just want to see notifications then I don't have to do anything with Raise to Wake.

TouchID currently lets me choose the best of both worlds from a UX-perspective depending on how I'd like to view my device at the given time. If FaceID doesn't allow the same Accessibility tweak that TouchID does then I'd lose this convenience :\

With Face ID...On desk, tap to wake. View notifications. Take out of pocket, raise to wake, view notifications. It’s the same. You’ll be good.
 
"Here's the little cut out for everything that happens up here"

lol


And let's be honest. The control panel screen with the dropped signal and time etc...that looks like something you'd get on a jailbroken phone. Wtf is going on there?
 
The review (had seen this previously) sounded more like a sales pitch than a real review.

FaceID - would have been great of they would show in low/poor light

During work my current 7+ sits on my desk within reach and I frequently use TouchID to unlock and check the phone ... with FaceID you have to pick up, unlock, then swipe. This is also a reason I am not a big fan of TouchID on the back.

Like I have mentioned previously, I will want to try in hand.
Too many questions ...

It should work perfectly in zero light because it has IR emitter. How would they have been able to demo this in a busy demo environment?
 
Some people (including myself) prefer the phone to go straight to the home screen once TouchID authenticates. This way I can pull it out of my pocket and have it already at the home screen once I've brought the phone up to use. If I want to see notifications I just pull down the shade.
I'm guessing you missed the flood of complaint posts when Touch ID2 was introduced and it was so fast it bypassed the lock screen.
 
So after you use Face ID to unlock, then you have to swipe up to open the home screen,....really ? With touch ID, you touch it and it opens up to the home screen without swiping. Am I missing something or is this a double step that touch ID does not have ?

That's actually not true. I thought the same exact thing but realized that if you lift your iPhone (assuming it is on raise to wake mode) and just PLACE your finger over the touch ID sensor it actually only unlocks the device. If you PRESS the touch ID sensor it will unlock the device to your home screen.
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hands on. puts MKBHD and Verge to shame

This made me rethink my decision of ordering the iPhone 8...might have to return it and wait for the X. The device looks pretty fluid and functional in this video.
 
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