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I’m actually a little surprised Marketing (which many contest runs Apple- or is at least the most dominant org within) signed off on this. Most people hold their phone in such a way that the current logo is still visible. It’s going to be covered (even for those who use a case with a cutout) on the 11.

They are embarrassed to call it an Apple product so they want to make it as discreet as possible.
 
No one notices it takes 4 hours to charge an XS Max whereas cheaper phones with larger batteries charge in a quarter of the time?
That's not a function of lightning as much as it's a function of the included charger, iPhone's charging circuitry and iOS software. USB-C's fatter electron pipe won't make any difference if Apple doesn't open up the spigot more on the iPhone's end. They have traditionally been the most conservative for battery charging for safety (understandable) reasons so we'll see if their rumored in-house new charging circuitry has been included in this year's iPhones.

I personally use wireless charging 90% of the time so it makes no difference to me. Not sure how many iPhone users use wired charging exclusively anymore but I bet Apple knows the number.
 
Pathbreaking centered logo for a better balance and 20% more aerodynamics or something.

If the logo is centered on the charging coil then it could be used as a target for charge sharing. (Watch?) I think a previous poster pointed that out. That's the only practical reason for changing the design. Manufacturing changes cost money. No need to waste it without a purpose.
 
So new camera system, centered Apple logo, and... that’s it? Even if you still have an iPhone X, this doesn’t seem like a huge upgrade up from that.
 
So new camera system, centered Apple logo, and... that’s it? Even if you still have an iPhone X, this doesn’t seem like a huge upgrade up from that.
You will find out tomorrow won’t you...

It should be a good upgrade from the x.
 
This was the exact same argument when 3G was introduced.
This was the exact same argument when 4G LTE was introduced.

BTW, it seems very odd that you would use WiFi as an argument against getting 5G. Why get any cellular service if you can just use WiFi?

Also:
Ah, since you bring up 3G and 4G and LTE. Whatever happened to:
-Reaching the theoretical speeds of any of those networks?
-Finishing the deployment of any of those networks?

5G is completely uninteresting to me because the pattern has repeated multiple times now and will just be repeating again:
-Talk up theoretical performance.
-Roll it out very slowly.
-Never reach the theoretical performance.
-Never reach a respectable deployment coverage.
-Start over with 6G.

What we should be doing is putting the money into expanding LTE infrastructure, and providing more people with adequate coverage and top speeds. LTE can be much faster for some people than others have ever seen.

Meanwhile, LTE is still heavily throttled and limited and expensive. What business do we ("we" meaning carriers) have moving all efforts on to another infant network when we haven't even done right by customers yet on any previous generation network? Clearly this is because they are intent to continue robbing everyone and justifying high prices by always moving the bar forward, even if there isn't much of an improvement.

My usage habits of cellular data have not changed one bit from 3G to 4G to LTE. It is still subject to frequently-poor network conditions, still performs worse than Wi-Fi, still heavily limited, throttled, and expensive. Nothing about the plans for 5G will change any of this.
 
Ah, since you bring up 3G and 4G and LTE. Whatever happened to:
-Reaching the theoretical speeds of any of those networks?
-Finishing the deployment of any of those networks?

5G is completely uninteresting to me because the pattern has repeated multiple times now and will just be repeating again:
-Talk up theoretical performance.
-Roll it out very slowly.
-Never reach the theoretical performance.
-Never reach a respectable deployment coverage.
-Start over with 6G.

What we should be doing is putting the money into expanding LTE infrastructure, and providing more people with adequate coverage and top speeds. LTE can be much faster for some people than others have ever seen.

Meanwhile, LTE is still heavily throttled and limited and expensive. What business do we ("we" meaning carriers) have moving all efforts on to another infant network when we haven't even done right by customers yet on any previous generation network? Clearly this is because they are intent to continue robbing everyone and justifying high prices by always moving the bar forward, even if there isn't much of an improvement.

My usage habits of cellular data have not changed one bit from 3G to 4G to LTE. It is still subject to frequently-poor network conditions, still performs worse than Wi-Fi, still heavily limited, throttled, and expensive. Nothing about the plans for 5G will change any of this.
The target of deployment of these cellular technologies is never to reach theoretical maximum performance, despite some marketing fluff that goes out.

In my case, both 3G and 4G LTE have excellent coverage. In fact, I can travel along the highway from my city (Toronto) all the way to my in-laws city (Montreal) in a 6 hour drive and have 4G LTE 99% of the time. Furthermore, deployment in these areas was pretty quick for LTE. I think it was less than 2 years IIRC.

BTW, my usage habits have changed dramatically going from 3G to LTE. Night vs. day.
 
I can't imagine the new phone having a magnetic wireless "device-to-device" charger. Could this possibly mean a WatchOS update that will finally allow Apple Watch charging on any standard Qi charger. One can only hope!
 
Ah, since you bring up 3G and 4G and LTE. Whatever happened to:
-Reaching the theoretical speeds of any of those networks?
-Finishing the deployment of any of those networks?

5G is completely uninteresting to me because the pattern has repeated multiple times now and will just be repeating again:
-Talk up theoretical performance.
-Roll it out very slowly.
-Never reach the theoretical performance.
-Never reach a respectable deployment coverage.
-Start over with 6G.

What we should be doing is putting the money into expanding LTE infrastructure, and providing more people with adequate coverage and top speeds. LTE can be much faster for some people than others have ever seen.

Meanwhile, LTE is still heavily throttled and limited and expensive. What business do we ("we" meaning carriers) have moving all efforts on to another infant network when we haven't even done right by customers yet on any previous generation network? Clearly this is because they are intent to continue robbing everyone and justifying high prices by always moving the bar forward, even if there isn't much of an improvement.

My usage habits of cellular data have not changed one bit from 3G to 4G to LTE. It is still subject to frequently-poor network conditions, still performs worse than Wi-Fi, still heavily limited, throttled, and expensive. Nothing about the plans for 5G will change any of this.

Exactly. I've been waiting for good LTE coverage in the Boston area for years. I can't get excited about 5G when VZW can't even provide good LTE coverage in a major metropolitan area.
 
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Centered logo who gives a $&@“ lol jk.


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I know right? New Sony Walkman will probably have a much better dac anyway.

To be fair I'm on my phone easily 4-5 hours a stretch at times. headphones in this use case did provide me a much better user experience both in terms of phone audio quality and battery life on my phone as well as not having to keep multiple sets of wireless around. I realize this is not a use case common to most people and I'm sure wireless works great for most. but for me, I do miss having a wired headphone jack where I can use standard 3.5mm jack headphone and also charge at the same time.
 
So new camera system, centered Apple logo, and... that’s it? Even if you still have an iPhone X, this doesn’t seem like a huge upgrade up from that.
I can’t imagine the camera is the only improvement. But even if that were true, X owners would still get the 20 or so improvements of the XS over the X, so there’s that.
 

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You’re hearing in here first,
it’s going to be called the “ApplePhone”
No more reference to “i”anything.
It’s been happening with all new device releases, AppleTV, AppleWATCH, etc.
I expect this will be it for that Jobs naming convention.
Not yet, it appears.
 
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