Bloomberg: 2019 iPhones Will Have Centered Apple Logo on Back

[ZeitGeist]

True, but the camera has been the principal or at least one of the principal year-to-year marketing points, I mean technological improvements and there are limits to what can be done/improved without adding some physical bulk.

The ‘bump’ adds barely a millimeter to the ‘bulk’ of iPhone - bulk that could be utilized to include a thicker battery, for example.

Which wouldn’t be an issue, if someone didn’t have an obsession with perceived thinness.

 

[ZeitGeist]

That’s your opinion just like my opinion is that I don’t mind the camera bump at all and it don’t look bad. Even the new camera bump don’t look all that bad (it finally grew on me) It never bothered me with any of the iPhones.

The difference is that to people like you, who’ve come to ‘not mind’ the camera bump, you likewise would also not mind if there were no camera bump. It wouldn’t matter to you.

Yet, to a not insignificant number of iPhone owners, the growing and bothersome camera bumps do matter and are an eyesore.

Hence, why alienate a group that cares, when the other group doesn’t care either way?

By now, since the fallout over the iPhone X models, Apple apparently has learned that lesson — since the same logic also applies to the removal of the Home Button and TouchID — and we’ll see the fix (hopefully).

 

[ZeitGeist]

I agree with you about lightning... however, USB-C on iPad Pro also allows for external hard drives to be directly connected & accessed via the Files app.
I think that’s a big deal for many that previously had hobbled together workflows.

I plugged in an external drive into my old iPad Pro 9.7 using the Lightning to USB adapter, which works just fine, FYI.

Again, anything that you described could also be done with the Lightning port - introducing USB-C into the iOS devices mix just creates an unnecessary schism, and was rather shortsighted by whoever made that decision, IMO.

 

[ZeitGeist]

Except Steve Jobs introduces the Apple TV back in 2007.

Steve wanted to call it iTV, but the British company took issue with that.

 

[ZeitGeist]

As for the centered Apple logo, it’s been centered on the back of the Apple Smart Battery Case since the iPhone 6.

So, nothing new under the sun.

 

[EugW]

I plugged in an external drive into my old iPad Pro 9.7 using the Lightning to USB adapter, which works just fine, FYI.

Again, anything that you described could also be done with the Lightning port - introducing USB-C into the iOS devices mix just creates an unnecessary schism, and was rather shortsighted by whoever made that decision, IMO.

Yes, external USB drives work fine through the Lightning port. However, there is a big caveat, and that is the Lightning port provides very little power, so a lot of bus-powered drives don't work via the Lightning port unless you provide external power.

Apple provides a Lighting to USB 3 Camera Adapter that has a Lightning power input, but it's a hassle since you have to connect that to a power source. You can just use an iPad charger or even a USB power bank to provide that extra power, but it's annoying. To put it another way, if you attach a USB flash drive to a 3rd gen iPad Pro, it will just work. If you attach a USB flash drive to a 2nd gen iPad Pro through the Lightning adapter, it may or may not work, and usually the latter. If it doesn't work then if you provide power it should work.

The other caveat is that the non-Pro iPads only work at USB 2 speeds. To get USB 3 speeds you need the iPad Pro. Even the iPad Air 3 doesn't support USB 3 speeds. In contrast, for example the 2nd gen iPad Pro 10.5" (that was replaced by the iPad Air 3) does work with USB 3 speeds.

 

[crcuilla]

The ‘bump’ adds barely a millimeter to the ‘bulk’ of iPhone - bulk that could be utilized to include a thicker battery, for example.

Which wouldn’t be an issue, if someone didn’t have an obsession with perceived thinness.

I've thought the same. Of course, in addition to the thickness, the larger battery would add weight. No idea how much.

I do wonder if they've tried this and found the current design as the best compromise.

 

[Shirasaki]

Do you have some vendetta against advancing tech?

It’s not about against utilising advanced tech. It’s about evaluating the impact of the so-called advanced tech to her or his life.

 

[Shirasaki]

Add a SIM and you need space for the receiver slot.

Apple can simply push Dual Physical SIM option used to be exclusive to China market to international market, ditching eSIM support entirely.

 

[PickUrPoison]

I've thought the same. Of course, in addition to the thickness, the larger battery would add weight. No idea how much.

I do wonder if they've tried this and found the current design as the best compromise.

They’ve tried it Thickness, weight, runtime... there’s no perfect answer, it’s all a balancing act—aka compromise.

Of course, it’s ridiculous to complain about the iPhone being too thin, since thin is what most customers want. Apple does a ton of market research and they test, test, test, including multiple prototypes. And in fact, even though customers want thin phones, the iPhone has gotten thicker every year since iPhone 6!! Apple knows customers wouldn’t be happy with the runtime if they didn’t keep increasing the thickness and adding battery capacity. (And it’s getting thicker again this year.)

If Ive had his way there would be no camera bump, but marketing wants certain specs. They won’t compromise the camera quality, and the runtime is fine. They definitely don’t want it thicker and heavier, so too bad Jony, there’s going to be a camera bump messing up your perfectly flat back—too bad! I’m being facetious of course; Ive knows he doesn’t always get what he wants lol.

 

[EugW]

I want a better camera, and I don't care about the bump since I always use a case anyway. I suspect most people do the same.

 

[Crowbot]

Apple can simply push Dual Physical SIM option used to be exclusive to China market to international market, ditching eSIM support entirely.

I hadn't heard of that but found this:

Neat.

 

[Shirasaki]

I hadn't heard of that but found this:
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Neat.

Exactly what I am talking about. All Apple needs to do is remove eSIM support from international Market entirely and adapt to the Dual Physical SIM. In my opinion, only US citizens can readily use eSIM.
Or, Apple can go crazy and incorporate triple SIM cards to their iPhone and iPad given sufficient space, including one eSIM.

 

[dazz87]

The batteries will be larger this year

Max size of the battery will be no more than 3300.....

 

[EugW]

Exactly what I am talking about. All Apple needs to do is remove eSIM support from international Market entirely and adapt to the Dual Physical SIM. In my opinion, only US citizens can readily use eSIM.

?

eSIM support is readily available in Canada, and I understand it's not that uncommon now in Europe.

 

[Jimmy Bubbles]

Notchless ftw!!
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clearly a solution in search of a problem.

I miss back when Apple would make changes when there was a compelling reason to, not just to keep up with the Joneses.

 

[Blaze4G]

The charge isn’t from the night before, it’s from that morning, before you left home. Presumably you do sleep, why would you not charge your phone at the same time? Two birds with one stone and all that. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Do realize though that if you’re going to clock 8 or 10 hours a day on your phone, you’re not most people. Sounds like you could benefit from a higher wattage charger, Apple sells a 12W for $19.99.

Or why not plug in my phone while I shower, brush my teeth, get dressed then have a full charge when I'm ready?

Plugging in while I'm getting ready is the same "killing 2 birds with 1 stone". Except I'm not forced to having to plugging it in at night.

When Apple introduces higher watt chargers in the box I'll love to hear the back tracking from the 5w defenders.

 

[I7guy]

...When Apple introduces higher watt chargers in the box I'll love to hear the back tracking from the 5w defenders.

I don’t know about the masses but I’ve been charging my iPhones with the iPad brick since 2011. We’ll have to see what 2019 brings (and if the phone charges faster than 18w and what the battery size will be) but it will be interesting to see the “snarky comments from the 5w critics.”

 

[PickUrPoison]

Or why not plug in my phone while I shower, brush my teeth, get dressed then have a full charge when I'm ready?

Plugging in while I'm getting ready is the same "killing 2 birds with 1 stone". Except I'm not forced to having to plugging it in at night.

When Apple introduces higher watt chargers in the box I'll love to hear the back tracking from the 5w defenders.

Nobody’s “forcing” you to charge at night lol. Plug it in every three hours and charge it for fifteen minutes for all I (or Apple or anyone) care. Like I said, whatever floats your boat. You do you!

It’s going to be 5W until it isn’t. But it’s not a matter of backtracking, it’s that Apple will have decided that a higher wattage charger is something they want to put in the box. They haven’t yet, but they might. (I’m fine either way.)

You’ll note that I never said 5W is the best option, or that Apple should never increase it. I’m merely stating my opinion on why they’re doing what they’re doing.

That Apple doesn’t supply the charger you personally would prefer to all 200 million customers who buy iPhone every year doesn’t mean you’re wrong for wanting it. You can also want a 4K display on iPhone. Or a thicker, heavier iPhone that lasts a little longer and doesn’t have a camera bump.

But you don’t always get what you want. Apple can’t give everyone their own idea of a perfect iPhone. Apple makes the choices they believe make the most sense and will satisfy the most customers. That’s really all there is to it. Other manufacturers make different choices and that’s fine too.

 

[PickUrPoison]

I don’t know about the masses but I’ve been charging my iPhones with the iPad brick since 2011. We’ll have to see what 2019 brings (and if the phone charges faster than 18w and what the battery size will be) but it will be interesting to see the “snarky comments from the 5w critics.”

12W here as well, but can also understand why Apple includes the 5W.

But obviously Apple realizes some want or need to charge even faster, otherwise they wouldn’t have switched to supporting USB-PD. 12W is fine for me, however—and you and, who knows, 5 or 10 or 20 percent of other customers who prefer the iPad charger.

 

[jakeenzo]

Device to Device charging eh? Apple iPhones stealing from Samsung again!

Good artists copy. Great artists steal.

 

[CarlJ]

It might just be me, but the idea of placing a phone down on its screen makes me feel kind of uncomfortable

With one of Apple's silicone cases on the phone, I'm very comfortable setting face-down on a table - the raised lip around the front edge of the screen keeps the screen from touching the table, and being face down means nothing can fall directly onto the screen. The screen is more protected that way. So, yeah, I do that a lot.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Good artists copy. Great artists steal.

I'm not sure they’re great artists, but Samsung “stole” reverse charging from Huawei.

 

[Jar Jar Abrams]

You’re hearing in here first,
it’s going to be called the “ApplePhone”
No more reference to “i”anything.
It’s been happening with all new device releases, AppleTV, AppleWATCH, etc.
I expect this will be it for that Jobs naming convention.

No chance this will be called Apple Phone, the iPhone name like iMac not going anywhere soon, AppleTV name has been around for 14 years.

 

[ghanwani]

Moving the logo lower helps reduce the ugliness of the phone by about 3%. Otherwise, it would have been too close to the camera wart.