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Moving the logo lower helps reduce the ugliness of the phone by about 3%. Otherwise, it would have been too close to the camera wart.

Idk how the camera array is that ugly to you guys. It’s 3 lenses and a flash in the upper left corner. The space in between the lenses match the color of the phone.

Just because it’s not 3 lenses in a straight line doesn’t make it ugly. Definitely doesn’t make it a hard pass either considering you’re not staring at the back of your phone all day.

To each their own, but y’all are funny. True Depth camera system notch was ugly too....

And here we are.
 
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Pathbreaking centered logo for a better balance and 20% more aerodynamics or something.
 
Pathbreaking centered logo for a better balance and 20% more aerodynamics or something.
Yup, there’s nothing groundbreaking, earthshaking or innovative about it.

Of course no one ever said there was. It just looks better... that’s all. Because better balance, like you say. No big deal.
 
Idk how the camera array is that ugly to you guys. It’s 3 lenses and a flash in the upper left corner. The space in between the lenses match the color of the phone.

Just because it’s not 3 lenses in a straight line doesn’t make it ugly. Definitely doesn’t make it a hard pass either considering you’re not staring at the back of your phone all day.

To each their own, but y’all are funny. True Depth camera system notch was ugly too....

And here we are.
There’s a reason that the three cameras are all 12MP and are equidistant from each other: basic physics.

Maybe some want a triangular bump instead? Not me, that would look so much worse... completely ridiculous :eek:
 
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Meh, I’m happy with my iPhone 8 and with a case, it really doesn’t matter where the logo is located because I never see it.
 
Apple has done their market research and determined the majority of customers don’t need or want a faster charger. Why clutter up the landfill even more with electronic waste.

The other opinion is profits. Depending on your view of Apple will determine which viewpoint one takes.
That doesn't really make sense though. If anything, it's the other way round:

Scenario a) Apple includes 18W charger. Everyone uses 18W charger because there's no reason not to.

Scenario b) Apple includes 5W charger. Many people will use it, missing out on fast charging functionality. Some people throw out 5W charger and buy 18W charger. This generates more e-waste, but at least Apple get their extra sale.

I don't think it has anything to do with 'your view on Apple' - rather it's the logical conclusion to draw when failing to see any other reason for them to include the functionality but only offer the hardware at extra cost.
 
Can they remove the apple logo too please so the phone is a few grams lighter?
 



2019 iPhones will feature a centered Apple logo on the back of the devices, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

The centered logo will help users know where to place their Apple Watch or AirPods case to charge on the back of the upcoming iPhones, which are widely expected to have a new Qi-based device-to-device charging feature, similar to Wireless PowerShare on Samsung's latest Galaxy smartphones.

samsung-wireless-powershare.jpg

Wireless PowerShare on Samsung's Galaxy S10

In late July, an alleged Foxconn worker claimed that there will be no "iPhone" branding on the back of the iPhone 11 models, and this certainly seems more likely in light of this centered Apple logo rumor.

Taking both rumors into account, concept designer Ben Geskin has mocked up how the iPhone 11 models should look:


Gurman also reiterated that iPhone 11 models will have more shatter-resistant glass and improved water resistance, the iPhone XR will come in a new green color, and that this year's Apple Watch refresh will be relatively minor, with a focus on new ceramic and titanium casing finishes and watchOS 6.

We're just three days away from Apple's event at Steve Jobs Theater, which kicks off Tuesday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. Apple will be live streaming the event via its website, the Apple Events app on Apple TV, and YouTube. MacRumors will have full coverage of the announcements as they unfold -- stay tuned!

Article Link: Bloomberg: 2019 iPhones Will Have Centered Apple Logo on Back
Finally a green color.
 
Finally a green color.
I didn’t realize green was that popular, but given Apple is reportedly bringing it, they obviously feel it’ll be a decent seller. As someone who has never used a case, I’m all for new colors :)

But whether I would buy it depends on the actual shade of green. Some greens I like, some I don’t.
 
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I don’t know about the masses but I’ve been charging my iPhones with the iPad brick since 2011. We’ll have to see what 2019 brings (and if the phone charges faster than 18w and what the battery size will be) but it will be interesting to see the “snarky comments from the 5w critics.”:rolleyes:
There wont be, we would welcome the change. While 5w defenders make excuses why Apple no longer thinks charging over 5w hurts their battery health or over 5w is useless because you charge at night.
 
That doesn't really make sense though. If anything, it's the other way round:

Scenario a) Apple includes 18W charger. Everyone uses 18W charger because there's no reason not to.

Scenario b) Apple includes 5W charger. Many people will use it, missing out on fast charging functionality. Some people throw out 5W charger and buy 18W charger. This generates more e-waste, but at least Apple get their extra sale.

I don't think it has anything to do with 'your view on Apple' - rather it's the logical conclusion to draw when failing to see any other reason for them to include the functionality but only offer the hardware at extra cost.
I don’t think this is anywhere near the way it it is at all. People don’t “miss” out, they choose that it doesn’t matter to them. Rather than making more e-waste Apple based jn their market research is providing what the majority will use. This is IMO, but at least as plausible or not plausible as the above, since none of this can be proven.
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There wont be, we would welcome the change. While 5w defenders make excuses why Apple no longer thinks charging over 5w hurts their battery health or over 5w is useless because you charge at night.
The 5w defenders are correct, batteryuniversity.com. The 5w critics may not collectively understand this.
 
Nobody’s “forcing” you to charge at night lol. Plug it in every three hours and charge it for fifteen minutes for all I (or Apple or anyone) care. Like I said, whatever floats your boat. You do you! :)

It’s going to be 5W until it isn’t. But it’s not a matter of backtracking, it’s that Apple will have decided that a higher wattage charger is something they want to put in the box. They haven’t yet, but they might. (I’m fine either way.)

You’ll note that I never said 5W is the best option, or that Apple should never increase it. I’m merely stating my opinion on why they’re doing what they’re doing.

That Apple doesn’t supply the charger you personally would prefer to all 200 million customers who buy iPhone every year doesn’t mean you’re wrong for wanting it. You can also want a 4K display on iPhone. Or a thicker, heavier iPhone that lasts a little longer and doesn’t have a camera bump.

But you don’t always get what you want. Apple can’t give everyone their own idea of a perfect iPhone. Apple makes the choices they believe make the most sense and will satisfy the most customers. That’s really all there is to it. Other manufacturers make different choices and that’s fine too.
"Apple makes the choices they believe make the most sense and will satisfy the most customers."

Yeah, no. Apple like most other companies makes the choices they believe make them the most money short and long term. By your logic Apple so far believes a 5w charger makes the most sense and satisfy the most customers.

So any higher wattage charger does not make the most sense nor satisfy most customers by your logic.

The main reason is simply cost cutting. But it seems many Apple defenders (not saying you) like when Apple makes more money vs giving them more value for their money. Its honestly really confusing as a consumer.
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I don’t think this is anywhere near the way it it is at all. People don’t “miss” out, they choose that it doesn’t matter to them. Rather than making more e-waste Apple based jn their market research is providing what the majority will use. This is IMO, but at least as plausible or not plausible as the above, since none of this can be proven.
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The 5w defenders are correct, batteryuniversity.com. The 5w critics may not collectively understand this.
So the majority wont use an 18w charger if Apple included it? They will go out and buy a 5w charger instead of using the 18w charger right? Do you actually read the things you say?

As the other member said, more ewaste is created. Users who wants fast charging will have no reason to purchase a new charger for that feature and tossing their 5w charger if Apple includes it.
 
"....So the majority wont use an 18w charger if Apple included it?
I don’t know what anybody will do, you can’t either.

They will go out and buy a 5w charger instead of using the 18w charger right? Do you actually read the things you say?
As much as everybody else.:rolleyes:

As the other member said, more ewaste is created. Users who wants fast charging will have no reason to purchase a new charger for that feature and tossing their 5w charger if Apple includes it.
Flat out disagree. You gonna prove it or just deflect. Want fast charging then get a brick, don’t care use the 5w.
 
I don’t know what anybody will do, you can’t either.


As much as everybody else.:rolleyes:


Flat out disagree. You gonna prove it or just deflect. Want fast charging then get a brick, don’t care use the 5w.
Lol not shocked at your responses. Not sure why I even expected better.
 
I'd be super interested in the iPhone charging the Watch. Unfortunately the Watch isn't Qi compatible, so when I go on vacation I always need to bring its charger. If the iPhone was able to charge the Watch it would be a convenience.
I don't care about the AirPods. They charge via Lighting and Qi, and I need to charge my iPhone way more than my AirPods, so I'm never in a situation where I need to charge them and don't have a cable with me.
 
There’s a reason that the three cameras are all 12MP and are equidistant from each other: basic physics.

Maybe some want a triangular bump instead? Not me, that would look so much worse... completely ridiculous :eek:

The “bump” looks just fine. It’s different. I circular one would be nice, but I don’t mind the square.
 
"Apple makes the choices they believe make the most sense and will satisfy the most customers."

Yeah, no. Apple like most other companies makes the choices they believe make them the most money short and long term. By your logic Apple so far believes a 5w charger makes the most sense and satisfy the most customers.

So any higher wattage charger does not make the most sense nor satisfy most customers by your logic.

The main reason is simply cost cutting. But it seems many Apple defenders (not saying you) like when Apple makes more money vs giving them more value for their money. Its honestly really confusing as a consumer.
Part of “what makes the most sense” of course is controlling cost. Otherwise you’d have 4K displays, 8GB RAM, 128GB base storage, etc. Apple has never been about specs just for the sake of specs. If Apple’s costs go up, the prices the customer pays go up and who wants that?

Most people charge only at night, so a faster charger isn’t particularly a high priority. I know, not you, but Apple doesn’t owe you your perfect iPhone.

If/when Apple decides to switch to a higher wattage charger it’ll be because they’ve decided the trade offs—including environmental impacts—are “worth it” for the benefit derived. Apple decides, keeping in mind all 200 million customers. You only need to be concerned with what you want, and that’s fine. But Apple doesn’t have that luxury.

It’s very similar to the moar battery contingent. Because they use their phone 10+ hours a day, they want a bigger battery. But that group is a definite minority. Apple’s not going to use a heavier, more costly battery and force everyone to carry a thicker, heavier, more expensive phone just so 5, 10 or 20% of users can last for an extra hour or two. (And still have to plug-in during the day anyway.)
 
I’m actually a little surprised Marketing (which many contest runs Apple- or is at least the most dominant org within) signed off on this. Most people hold their phone in such a way that the current logo is still visible. It’s going to be covered (even for those who use a case with a cutout) on the 11.
 
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