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Blu-Ray Support at Macworld? Mac Pros Soon?
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I really don't think the Mac Pro is a MWSF item... never has been. Notebooks are Apple's big consumer thing and this is a consumer show...
Q1 yes, MWSF no.
Q1 yes, MWSF no.
That would depend on how it's implemented. If it just an expensive BTO for MPs then I doubt it would have much impact at all. But if Apple were to make BD-R part of a 10.5/iLife '08/FCS/FCE update and it would work w/ an external BD burner, that would be a game shifter and certainly put BD in the Red Zone.
Can we just fast forward to MacWorld???? I'm so tired of waiting!!!! So many new things are on the table.... possible video rentals, new Apple TV, new ultra portable, new MacPros, BlueRay options, iPhone updates!
I feel like Cartman waiting for the Wii to be released!
I feel like Cartman waiting for the Wii to be released!
i'm hoping for an appleTV 2, mac nano, or add-on unit for the current appleTV with full HDMI 1.3 support, for dolby true hd and dts-hd audio codecs.
it would be nice if apple used one of the LG hyrbid drives and we got hd-dvd and blu-ray... it would certainly align with their "it just works" philosophy. the vast majority of people i talk to either have no idea there is a format war, or have no idea which format is which.
it would be nice if apple used one of the LG hyrbid drives and we got hd-dvd and blu-ray... it would certainly align with their "it just works" philosophy. the vast majority of people i talk to either have no idea there is a format war, or have no idea which format is which.
IIRC, When Apple added Superdrives (DVD/CD burners) to the PowerMac (the blue G3s), the entire Mac WITH Superdrive cost less than the current consumer price of a bare Superdrive alone. Apple clearly made the move when they were able to get favorable pricing. This could again be true.
Many PC makers charge more for RAM they install, than you would pay if you do the installation yourself. I don't think that has a bearing on Apple specifically, or on optical drives.
I have no opinion on timing, but when it happens (whether BD, HD, or combo) I expect it will be for a reasonable price, even if still high-end.
Timing would be perfect!
Not gonna happen. Physical distribution is not going to die that easily.
its apple. it would be blu-ray authoring as well
Perhaps more like April (NAB) for authoring, but who knows.
Do you actually own HD-DVD and Blurary software/hardware? Because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. HD-DVD has had stellar transfers from the start. 30GB is MORE than enough to fit HD media. Considering Bluray discs are maxing out at 50gb and there are 51GB HD-DVD discs, what is your argument? That the inefficient MPEG2 codec and uncompressed audio that Sony continues to push on everyone, requires immense amounts of space? Well then you'd be correct.
its apple. it would be blu-ray authoring as well
THE FORMAT WAR IS OVER if this happens....blu-ray has been pretty much been dominating if you pay attention to the real numbers (didn't lose a single week in sales all of last year) and if it were any other way apple would do a combo drive.
The formate war is far from over. No side has a huge lead over the other. The only reason apple is backing blu-ray is because it allied with Disney/Pixar.
The formate war is going to end the same way the DVD+R and DVD-R format war ended and that is with dual mode players.
That may be true, but Apple's been putting off releasing new version of the Mac Pro for some reason. They're be out of their friggin minds to wait any longer, so most people are thinking they must be waiting for mwsf to launch it. MWSF may be a "consumer" show, but if they don't show of the "pro" product, they may doom themselves to being a "consumer" company!!
Are you serious?? Blu-ray is a much better resolution. Do you have a 1080p TV?
Wtf are you talking about, the resolution of Blu-ray is EXACTLY the same as HD-DVD. 1920x1080p. This forum is seriously SO misguided in almost everything.
YES, I actually have a ps3 (46'' 1080p TV and 104'' 1080i projector) and blu-ray burner for my mac. I know what im talking about....
30 GB is sometimes enough to fit movies, look at transformers ,for example, couldn't meet requirements due to space. what transfers are you refering to? my argument is that the compression is deceided by the STUDIO (artist) and if the artist has a larger/better canvas to start with they typically can paint a more beautiful picture. the better question is, what is your argument? you say 30 GB is enough, but than immediately bring up the 51 GB disc that will never see a consumer, a little defensive about the subject?
there are 51 GB hd dvd discs in production. there are also 100 GB blu-ray discs in production. and if 30 GB is "more than enough" as you say, why would both sides be developing larger capacity? psssssh, wasting my time!
like I said, if you can somehow convince me that having an extra 10 GB per layer is a bad thing, I would be impressed....but thanks for your FUD.
blu-ray has a significant advantage, and when warner goes blu-ray exlcusive will have 70% exclusive studio support...
please explain tome how hd-dvd will last....dvd+r and dvd-r are completely different, but nice try.
Is there any particular reason you say that? Notice that I am heavily qualifying my statement by saying it needs to be a model that takes off. Maybe rentals alone are enough, or maybe people care about quality enough that it needs to be HD too. If Apple does find the right formula, it makes sense that physical formats would start to decline. DVD has a long way to fall, but the HD formats have low market share right now. If they stall or start to decline now, they're dead.
yes, they have the same resolution...but most of the standalone players (edit: in consumer hands) are only 1080i so he does have a point (although he wasn't trying to make it)
That's been MS's plan all along, I'm pretty sure. They give some support to HDDVD, not enough to effect their system sales but enough to help keep HDDVD viable. All the while they are pushing an HDDVD download service on the same hardware.
They want HD optical media to fumble for as long as possible while they get people more and more used to downloading their media.
I'd like an improved spec AppleTV that works with a USB BR drive that Apple releases for use with the ATV, as well as existing iMacs, MacBooks, and the new driveless subportable etc etc.
I'm with you in my preference of HDDVD, and I understand what you are saying and agree with the facts. In the newb's defense, though, the misconception that HDDVD isn't 1080p is failry widespread and caused by two things; first, early HDDVD players wouldn't output 1080p, just 1080i and 720p downconverted from the 1080p file on the disc. Second was Sony's marketing which capitalized on this fact slamming "HDVD is not True HD" into people who can't be bothered to read beyond the headline's brain.
it takes like 3 weeks and all of my bandwith to download a HD movie, thats why.
and I don't want crappy quality on my 1080p tv, so compression won't due.
I have Transformers on HD-DVD, what "requirements" did it miss that you speak of? It was encoded at 1920x1080 and utilizes Dolby Digital Plus, am I missing something else that is "required"? It even has all of the interactive stuff that Sony has YET to implement with their Bluray Java nonsense. 51GB discs are being developed to quiet all of the people crying over Blu-Rays "superiority" based on disc space, and you know it. Both sides are in a space race, don't be so naive. It's just like any other product, look at the old MHZ race that clearly turned out to be pointless. If more space was needed, they would be using the 51GB discs. It's not reaching the consumer yet, because IT'S NOT NEEDED. The compression being used has to do entirely with Sony receiving royalties from their MPEG2 codec. Space/Bit rate comparisons between different codecs are like comparing apples to oranges. So stop it. Use your brain for 5 seconds and stop being so one sided.
No they are not, the first generation Toshiba were the only ones that had that "issue". An interlaced output provides the SAME EXACT image in the end on a progressive display. Which unless you have an old CRT, then you should have zero problems. Not to mention most displays do not even have 1080P input.
Agreed...The online download portion of Netflix has not done as well as expected, add this to the folding of walmart's downloadable rentals, and we see that the market may not be ready for "ether" rentals. I don't know how long people want to wait for a 1080p movie to download. Keep in mind how compact BluRay discs are for getting 50 gigs of data on there, so fast shipping times and large product volume is made easier by small Blu Discs.
I personally would rather have the disc shipped to me and have nice HD quality for an exciting viewing experience, than wait for the thing to download and have not-so-nice, more compressed quality.
Maybe
can bridge that gap.How about the fact that most of the population does not have an internet connection capable of streaming HD?
I don't care about space I care about quality. Blu-ray is just not as good. I have made direct comparisons in my dubbing stage and it is pretty obvious once you start looking at movies on referenced stages. Also the menus and features are better. That being said, I really don't care because both formats are DOA.
You are correct, it's the same reason BOSE has somehow become known as a quality speaker manufacturer. The masses are dumb.