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Bluetooth and Wi-Fi Aren't Fully Disabled When Toggled Off in Control Center on iOS 11
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this is brilliant.
thanks.
clearly: the crossed out icon shows it is completely off.
thanks for this.
When you hit the Wi-Fi toggle in Control Center, youmactually disable AUTO JOIN for that network. I personally think it’s great. If I find myself attached to “Starbucks-google” half a block away, toggling off the Wi-Fi button in control center means it won’t keep trying to connect every time I walk or drive by a Starbucks store. It’s also true for my friend and neighbors’ Wi-Fi, with the added benefit that it will still remember their Wi-Fi network password the next time I visit and actually want to connect. I would often accidentally connect to their network instead of mine when closer to their router.
this. same thing to me on a prepaid SIM. had just topped it up with the equivalent of USD 20 only to wake up the next day to find that i had set it all up to download apple Music over cellular etc. no balance in card. those were expensive songs...
this is a beautiful way of expressing the apple maxim: think differently.
i like the phrase that Control Panel toggles are "disconnect toggles" not "on/off toggles".
this is the way i can use to explain simply how this works, to persons in my family.
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correct.
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this is the fact. people can look up these things but few do.
on the other hand, there does exist so many "ways to preserve battery" "tips" on the net that do perpetuate this info.
but trusted sources do indicate what you said: bluetooth and wifi do not drain batteries (IF they are not constantly searching for devices to connect to).
Actually... it gets disabled in my iPad mini... it doesn't just disconnect, but turns it off.. like it always has.. however, on iPhone 5s, it disconnects..
[doublepost=1505954387][/doublepost]So does this mean, if I turn it off, it will automatically get enabled at 5 am?
[doublepost=1505954387][/doublepost]So does this mean, if I turn it off, it will automatically get enabled at 5 am?
It's not misleading. They never told you that the point of the toggle was to 'control the radios'. Apple doesn't think that way--it's just something you imagined and that's why Apple designs the OS, not you.
You mean like Force Touching the Settings Icon and going right to that function?
Great change!
Most people use the quick access to WiFi switch in control center because they're currently connected to a slow WiF, not that they don't want WiFi. It's smart to make the switch a temp disconnection. Maybe they should update the icon to reflect the change.
Since Apple randomizes MAC address when scanning nearby hotspots, there's not really a privacy argument against leaving WiFi on all the time.
Most people use the quick access to WiFi switch in control center because they're currently connected to a slow WiF, not that they don't want WiFi. It's smart to make the switch a temp disconnection. Maybe they should update the icon to reflect the change.
Since Apple randomizes MAC address when scanning nearby hotspots, there's not really a privacy argument against leaving WiFi on all the time.
Well, to be fair, it's about 3 taps compared to 1. Not to say that it's not
To be fair, that’s how those toggles have worked until iOS 11. And that’s how various other toggles still work even in iOS 11.
Awesome. If the two major players think its a good idea well........... Super Fanboy? ... I like it! (although not exactly true) Still not sure how 8 years has anything to do with control panel but not to worry. All good soap!
I may be wearing a tinfoil hat but I've never been comfortable being out with wifi on, advertising my MAC address for all to see. In addition, I don't want any more frequencies buzzing around my body than necessary. So I am always toggling airplane mode and wifi so that cellular and wifi are not simultaneously on.
This change makes control center useless to me. I'm aware of a couple of launcher apps that include notification widgets with wifi/cellular toggles. Does anyone know of an app that will actually toggle the radios on/off for real (instead of whatever it is that iOS11 control does)? Or maybe a workflow that will put a simple icon on the home screen and toggle these on/off with one click? I realize that I can dig into the settings app but doing this multiple times a day is not a solution.
This change makes control center useless to me. I'm aware of a couple of launcher apps that include notification widgets with wifi/cellular toggles. Does anyone know of an app that will actually toggle the radios on/off for real (instead of whatever it is that iOS11 control does)? Or maybe a workflow that will put a simple icon on the home screen and toggle these on/off with one click? I realize that I can dig into the settings app but doing this multiple times a day is not a solution.
only in Apple land do you have people defending the idea that an off button does not function like an off button.
I get easily twice the runtime if i disable bluetooth and wifi for example while listening to music.
That's not how WiFi works. If you connect to broadcast SSIDs, your devices listen for the probes of known networks. If you connect to non-broadcast SSIDs, your devices regularly sends out probe packets regardless of where you are. You should not have "Ask to Join Networks" disabled. So long as you have it enabled, the number of SSIDs in your vicinity will not cause your phone to send more traffic. If disabling WiFi, when you're not even connected to a network, affects your cellular connection, something else is going on.
Everybody is complaining and saying this is annoying but no one has an actual good reason as to why. When in reality it's way better this way. Why would anyone want to completely turn off wifi as opposed to just temporarily turning it "off"? I would seriously like to discuss this with someone as I think everyone here is just complaining just to complain, until they actual realize it's better.
Security reasons, and battery life. The savings may be small, but not zero. I never use Bluetooth, why would I ever want it on? I spend much time in areas without wi-fi, why not switch it off?
So you would be ok with removing any way of turning it off completely, even in the Settings?
Bluetooth can just be tuned off in settings without much trouble if it’s basically something that’s done once. WiFi, even when in areas without WiFi, not much of a point to disable it with a need to remember to enable it at some point vs just leaving it on and not worrying about it.
So turning off wifi in Control Center is different from turning it off in Settings. If it only disconnects accessories, does that mean the wifi and Bluetooth radio still remain On and how much does it affect battery life, and what's the purpose of this new change.. user tracking?
Apple should have made this clear with a different symbol or color in Control Center to inform users about this change. When I turn off wifi, I want it to be turned off unless there is a good reason which Apple hasn't talked about yet.
[doublepost=1505974179][/doublepost]If wifi is actually not disabled but merely disconnected and there is no wifi signal nearby, wouldn't the radio keep on searching for wifi signal and unnecessarily drain the battery like what happens with the poor cell phone signal?
Apple should have made this clear with a different symbol or color in Control Center to inform users about this change. When I turn off wifi, I want it to be turned off unless there is a good reason which Apple hasn't talked about yet.
[doublepost=1505974179][/doublepost]If wifi is actually not disabled but merely disconnected and there is no wifi signal nearby, wouldn't the radio keep on searching for wifi signal and unnecessarily drain the battery like what happens with the poor cell phone signal?
Let's get into semantics a bit:
WIFI and BT are what? Technolgies do CONNECT things.
So, to turn ON or OFF this technology means: to disconnect these things. To me, there is no difference.
Having a differentiation between "turning on/off" and "disconnecting" is something that most people will not understand. The confusion it creates in this thread is proof enough to me.
So Apple clearly needs to adress this issue.
WIFI and BT are what? Technolgies do CONNECT things.
So, to turn ON or OFF this technology means: to disconnect these things. To me, there is no difference.
Having a differentiation between "turning on/off" and "disconnecting" is something that most people will not understand. The confusion it creates in this thread is proof enough to me.
So Apple clearly needs to adress this issue.
Then shut it off in settings - those toggles are firm on/off settings.
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Because quite often you connect to a WiFi connection in an airport or restaurant that is actually slower than say LTE and before to drop the connection you had to actually turn WiFi off and then later more often than not you would forget to turn it back on when leaving the area.
This allows you to drop the current WiFi connection but yet it remains "on" should you move to an area with a different network or return home.
The same rationale is true for Bluetooth - you can easily disassociate from a car or headphones without having to turn it completely off.
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Go to Settings -> Control Center -> Customize Controls and you'll see myriad settings shortcuts you can choose to add or remove from Control Center including one for Low Power Mode.