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It seems *more* intuitive to me, because I'm generally using those toggles to quickly disconnect from BT/wifi, not because I actually want the BT/wifi radios to be off. Not disconnecting my Watch because I toggled the BT switch is more intuitive to me as well.
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How so?

<both phones on home screens>

iPhone:
1) Force Touch Settings button and slide to Bluetooth or Wifi
2) Let go
3) Click power toggle

Samsung:
1) Press tope of screen and slide down
2) Let go
3) Click power toggle for Bluetooth or Wifi
Android allows a toggle widget which can be on one's default homesceen. Only needs one press . Or two presses if not on the default homesceen. Toggle widget permits single press control for up to 8 functions from a very large selection.
 
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It's not broken; what's broken is your perception of how the feature is supposed to work. Also, speak for yourself on what the people using the buttons actually want. 99% of the time that I use the toggles, it's not because I want/need BT/wifi to be 'powered off', it's because I'm connected to a device/network that I'd like to quickly and temporarily disconnect from.

Turning off these features isn't saving you any battery life. It's like we're back in the days when people complained about the illuminated Apple logo on MacBooks and they had to point out that it used a few seconds of battery life per cycle.

It is definitely broken. If Apple wants to add some new feature to temporarily disconnect from a network, then that would be fine. But off should be off.

Turning off these radios when you are not using them can significantly save battery run time. Especially on older hardware.

Most users that I have seen just leave wifi and bluetooth on all the time with no manual intervention. But is there 1% out there that wants some weird temporary disconnect? Yes of course.
 
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To *you*. Of course You do not represent the population ( don’t take this as hostile!! ). Given the ‘surprise’ to this functionality clearly indicates the unintuitive nature. Added to the fact that even hour of day makes a difference...

So - now - if I want to turn off Bluetooth and wifi I have to go through a dozen touch process? It’s inefficient.

Take a look at all four icons in the square. When airplane mode is off the icon is greyed out. Same as cellular.

Contrast that with how the WiFi and BT icons behave. Both are greyed off but that doesn’t mean the features are off. Totally diverges from previous behavior. And they want to blame the user for expecting previous behavior?
 
Nope... that's the annoying part.
I'd really want the previous behavior. This "feature" is completely useless for a "pro" user and I though it was a bug for 8 betas.

Agreed! I reported this as a bug over several of the betas and still don't completely understand why it has to work this way. It always makes me think that the on-off nature of the wi-fi and bluetooth buttons is broken. After waiting for a little while, the wi-fi and bluetooth indicators get diagonal lines drawn through them to show that the service is truly "off". It's pretty bad UI and UX in my opinion.
 
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I was thinking the exact same thing. Someone reached and pulled that straight out of their ass.

Like a lot of things Apple these days. Wonder how long it will be until there is no "off" in the settings app. We now know that Apple knows what is best, and it is no longer your device. Or Apple just thinks its users are too dumb to understand what peripherals use BlueTooth. If they wanted the BlueTooth control to be more fine grained, they would have not put the real off button someplace else.
 
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3D Touch would solve most of this issue, but those of us rocking SE's or older are boned. This "feature" is a deal breaker for me. My SE is already rock solid on 10.3.3. The control center is very convenient and works how I want it to currently. If a future update puts back in a true on/off choice for CC in settings, then I would probably upgrade. Until then I guess iOS 10 it is!
 
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WOW this is completely unacceptable. Apple is presenting controls to disable (turn on / off) WiFi & Bluetooth yet NOT actually disabling those services in the background when selected?!? This HIGHLY misleading and in some instances dangerous for users. On/Off should be On/Off with no deceptive grey area in between! WTF Apple!?!?

Secret National Security Order issued by the President at the direction of the NSA. Allows the agent at the next table complete access to your phone and 9 criminals out of 10 will think they turned it off.
 
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...so it doesn't constantly ask me to connect or waste my battery looking for networks. Likewise with Bluetooth and battery.

That is what it achieves isn’t it? It keeps some connections open (the ones to other Apple devices, basically), but not the rest, and you won’t get it asking you to connect to anything. Dunno how that’ll affect battery - maybe they’ve done something clever so that their inter-Apple connections don’t use much power.
 
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This can't be a feature, if you turn off bluetooth, it should be off, sounds more like a bug

Nope, Apple recognized the need for finer grain control of bluetooth devices. Good for them, there is probably a need.

But then the Apple design mantra kicks in, simple button, unclear icon, lots of empty space around, no text, clean, thin, modern and we end up with another Apple usability fail. But it made Ive happy, he approved. Just more form over function.
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Apple have also suggested what you should eat for breakfast, to give you the best experience while simultaneously using your iPhone. Apple will automatically force three croissants and two cups of english breakfast tea each time you unlock your iphone.

Apple knows best

But only works at Panera or First Watch. If you are at some greasy spoon, then it does not force you.
 
If “wifi off button” doesn’t turn the wifi off (as it is so for years and for all smart phones) than it’s a bug, not a feature.
Except the "wifi off button" does turn it off. Just not the "wifi disconnect button" in control center.

Well that's certainly more intuitive :rolleyes: - especially after 10 YEARS of it meaning off.
Control center been around that long? Dang I missed that for most of those years!

But I'm not talking about when nothing is connected. I have an Apple Watch and the phone most definitely uses up battery keeping tabs on the watch. Under the new system disabling Bluetooth explicitly keeps the watch connected. So no, turning off in Control Center does not accomplish what I want: ceasing all Bluetooth communication, including to the watch, to save battery.
Um so you bought a $300+ connected watch and want it disconnected to save a little battery? Alreighty then. I suppose you should visit the settings app then and really turn off those settings. Or purchase a Timex for $25 :)

It's far from a non issue.
https://www.wired.com/story/turn-off-bluetooth-security/
I prefer to turn off WiFi and BT completely so that no tracking happens at stores or elsewhere using your WiFi/BT and also save battery at the same time.
Congratulations you still can! Apple left the ON/OFF setting just as it was so you can. They just added a new option for those who would like to do otherwise.

It’s un-intuitive, which is at the fault of Apple, which Apple should address. It’s also a change in behaviour between 10 and 11 and unexpected.

Your expectations and others are obviously differ - no one is ‘in the right’.
Well according to Apple I am :)
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208086 See where it uses words like DISCONNECT and OFF.
 
I’m confused. When I turn off WiFi from the control panel on my iPad and then check WiFi in settings it’s off. Shouldn’t it be on if the control center doesn’t actually turn it off?
 
I never knew this, but ya when u think about it its kinda sucks... 'off' should mean 'off' not still partially on..

Will this mean we will see another option to say "When Bluetooth is off, only these selected devices will be off as well" in future?

Similar to Background refreshing app individual status ...
 
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"It's 5 a.m. local time."

haha... I can imagine users counting down the seconds.
LOL yeah just like Apple iOS releases. Counting the days, hrs and minutes then pressing check for updates starting at 9:45 PST then complaining about the entire thing once they have it!
 
It looks like mine is working like it always has. I always leave my iPad in airplane mode and enable WiFi when I need it and disable it when I’m done. With airplane mode on the control panel works as it should. Off is off
 
I don't really mind the iOS 11 approach to these switches once I figured out what the heck was going on. Now if they change it up again I'll probably be annoyed since I took the trouble to get it and get used to it already. :D

I do like being able to disconnect fast from stuff like a BT speaker or a network without disrupting the more background-y functions.

However, it's true that a) it's not intuitive at all this way and b) not going to save any juice to use only the control center switches. The latter can annoy people who are more likely to have to recharge during the day and are not near juice all the time. Or annoy people who regard the half-off as just a sneaky way to keep tracking people regarding location services etc.

Maybe Apple should stick controls for absolute-off of WiFi and BT on the control center panel as well. But then why wouldn't 3D touch on the original icons there be good enough? Eventually all the iOS devices will have 3D touch.

Putting up the diagonal line through the icon at turnoff time in the Control Center instead of as reaction later to a Settings turnoff would probably reassure users that they had pressed hard enough on the icons in Control Center. I guess the problem there would be if you press too hard and only mean to disconnect from network connections or BT speakers then you've got to go back to Settings to re-establish connections.

There's probably not going to be any way to make everyone happy on this issue.
 
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Does airplane mode still completely disable things?

Well, probably not. I am in 10.3.2 and it's been several times that I have found, after putting my iPhone in airplane more just before going to bed, that messages and notifications came through during the night. I even made a video of how -while in airplane mode in this particular situation- I could not browse the web in Safari (getting a message of Wifi needs to be turned on) but Whatsapp was still getting connectivity.

I always wondered if anyone was getting a similar issue.
 
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Think of it this way. The control panel toggle button is like a room light switch. The settings, WiFi off switch is the main circuit breaker.
 
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Most annoying. Don't like it one bit. Actually misleading and a stupid waste of battery. Control Center? Now that is misleading because you don't control the radios.
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Both WiFi and Bluetooth can easily be turned off in the settings mode - the article is clear about this.

Then give me a shortcut to it.
 
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