But I'm not talking about when nothing is connected. I have an Apple Watch and the phone most definitely uses up battery keeping tabs on the watch. Under the new system disabling Bluetooth explicitly keeps the watch connected. So no, turning off in Control Center does not accomplish what I want: ceasing all Bluetooth communication, including to the watch, to save battery.
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Bluetooth and Wi-Fi Aren't Fully Disabled When Toggled Off in Control Center on iOS 11
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So "off" doesn't really mean "off" if it's done from the control center? At least it's nice to finally have this addressed. I encountered this with every build of the beta, and reported it to Apple after each update because it looks like a bug. People can argue whether or not it's useful, but I think that when people turn a feature off, it should actually be off.
This is much ado about nothing. The biggest thing that most are overlooking is that the toggles in Control Center aren't 'on/off' toggles anymore, they're 'disconnect' toggles now...and that's actually what I used them for in the past. Being able to quickly disconnect wifi/BT devices that I didn't want to be connected to anymore was my whole reasoning for wanting the shortcuts in CC in the first place.
The problem with that is that I (and many others) forget that they turned it off, and then it causes problems with the Watch and AirDrop and cell data use, etc. In reality, I didn't really want to turn it off, I just wanted to temporarily disable it. The user shouldn't have to think about how the Watch or Pencil connects to the device
Sorry that everyone doesn't like the new feature, but it's not 'broken' or 'wrong'...it's just that you're misunderstanding the new usage of the toggles. I, for one, welcome them if only because my wife is constantly turning off wifi and forgetting to turn it back on, even though she didn't actually want to turn wifi off, she just wanted to disconnect from *that specific network*.
My family must think like Apple engineers, because that's what we always used the CC toggles for in the first place and were always annoyed with ourselves when we forget to reactivate them. No more.
Thanks, Apple! You literally implemented a feature that I wanted but didn't even know how to articulate.
The problem with that is that I (and many others) forget that they turned it off, and then it causes problems with the Watch and AirDrop and cell data use, etc. In reality, I didn't really want to turn it off, I just wanted to temporarily disable it. The user shouldn't have to think about how the Watch or Pencil connects to the device
Sorry that everyone doesn't like the new feature, but it's not 'broken' or 'wrong'...it's just that you're misunderstanding the new usage of the toggles. I, for one, welcome them if only because my wife is constantly turning off wifi and forgetting to turn it back on, even though she didn't actually want to turn wifi off, she just wanted to disconnect from *that specific network*.
My family must think like Apple engineers, because that's what we always used the CC toggles for in the first place and were always annoyed with ourselves when we forget to reactivate them. No more.
Thanks, Apple! You literally implemented a feature that I wanted but didn't even know how to articulate.
It's far from a non issue.
https://www.wired.com/story/turn-off-bluetooth-security/
I prefer to turn off WiFi and BT completely so that no tracking happens at stores or elsewhere using your WiFi/BT and also save battery at the same time.
That was sarcasm. I want to turn off wifi entirely so it doesn't constantly ask me to connect or waste my battery looking for networks. Likewise with Bluetooth and battery.
Speak for yourself. When I walk down the hall of my office building to the conference room, restroom, or phone rooms, I have to turn off wifi so that my phone will both disconnect from the office wifi that it gets just barely enough signal from that it thinks it's connected but not enough to actually connect. And since I'm walking past other offices, I need wifi OFF if I'm going to use cellular in peace without constant pestering to connect.
And when I'm leaving the house, I want it one swipe and tap away no matter what I'm already doing (such as checking bus and subway status), instead of taking me out of my current workflow.
What are you doing with your phone that you need wifi to disconnect but not actually be off? Why aren't you satisfied with going into the settings app once or twice a day when you need to do that?
Everyone should really report this at Apple.com/feedback. I know this isn’t a bug, but if they get enough pushback, maybe they’ll change it. (Like when they took away the Camera Roll years back!)
Not really the point.
When I turn something off, I expect it to do just that.
Control centre is supposed to be a short cut - and should have exactly the same behaviour.
When I turn something off, I expect it to do just that.
Control centre is supposed to be a short cut - and should have exactly the same behaviour.
Apparently you and a lot of others here assuming those switches are for Off and ON. Where exactly does it say that's what they are for? Even though it clearly states "disconnect", no one has bothered to read that message when those are used. There is an OFF/ON option in settings by means of a switch to actually turn OFF those services like there has always been. The control panel options are for DISCONNECT not off.
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Really now? So you have polled every iOS user who uses control center to arrive at that conclusion? Do those same users know how to go into settings to turn BT/WIFI off?
Have you read anything current (within the past several years) regarding BT and battery usage? You should take a read its quite interesting how the new BT standards are really efficient these days and use virtually zero battery by simply being on. Actually use more battery lighting up the screen to turn it off and on.
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Exactly. People are upset because the 'power switch' doesn't turn anything off. That's because it's not a power switch.
Also, it's exactly as many steps to actually turn the radios off as it always was; Force Touch Settings button, slide to wifi or BT, and click the power button. That is, the addition of Force Touch rendered the Control Center toggles pretty useless, and we've now got an entire new feature.
Airplane mode was already confusing enough: what appears to be an an/off toggle really means ‘switch things off now’. Re-enabling wifi and Bluetooth doesn’t take you out of airplane mode.
This takes the confusion to a whole new level. How is anybody supposed to know how the Bluetooth and Wifi icons work without reading a manual.
This takes the confusion to a whole new level. How is anybody supposed to know how the Bluetooth and Wifi icons work without reading a manual.
It's not broken; what's broken is your perception of how the feature is supposed to work. Also, speak for yourself on what the people using the buttons actually want. 99% of the time that I use the toggles, it's not because I want/need BT/wifi to be 'powered off', it's because I'm connected to a device/network that I'd like to quickly and temporarily disconnect from.
Turning off these features isn't saving you any battery life. It's like we're back in the days when people complained about the illuminated Apple logo on MacBooks and they had to point out that it used a few seconds of battery life per cycle.
It’s un-intuitive, which is at the fault of Apple, which Apple should address. It’s also a change in behaviour between 10 and 11 and unexpected.
Your expectations and others are obviously differ - no one is ‘in the right’.
Your expectations and others are obviously differ - no one is ‘in the right’.
I do use the iPhone 7, though it is not my main phone (Galaxy S6 Edge+). Are you mad that my Samsung can connect and disconnect from bluetooth devices in about half the steps that an iPhone 7 does? I did a side by side comparison. I'm not a fanboy. I'm just surpirsed that Apple has fallen behind in simplicity in certain respects, such as this. Also, I was a user on this forum well before the iPhone existed, have owned iPhones since the 3G, and my point is still valid.
Same way you're supposed to know how any other feature works without reading a manual? How did anyone figure out how to hold the power button down to turn the phone off, or how the volume buttons change functions depending on what's on the screen?
People had to go through settings even on the original iPhone to change some options based on their needs.
It seems *more* intuitive to me, because I'm generally using those toggles to quickly disconnect from BT/wifi, not because I actually want the BT/wifi radios to be off. Not disconnecting my Watch because I toggled the BT switch is more intuitive to me as well.
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How so?
<both phones on home screens>
iPhone:
1) Force Touch Settings button and slide to Bluetooth or Wifi
2) Let go
3) Click power toggle
Samsung:
1) Press tope of screen and slide down
2) Let go
3) Click power toggle for Bluetooth or Wifi
This is a crappy change that came about half way through the beta.
Really not sure what the benefits are other than maybe making a couple of iOS features that rely on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth with better. At the expense of pissing off lots of users and wasting battery.
Thankfully you can use Siri to completely switch off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
Really not sure what the benefits are other than maybe making a couple of iOS features that rely on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth with better. At the expense of pissing off lots of users and wasting battery.
Thankfully you can use Siri to completely switch off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
To *you*. Of course You do not represent the population ( don’t take this as hostile!! ). Given the ‘surprise’ to this functionality clearly indicates the unintuitive nature. Added to the fact that even hour of day makes a difference...
So - now - if I want to turn off Bluetooth and wifi I have to go through a dozen touch process? It’s inefficient.
So - now - if I want to turn off Bluetooth and wifi I have to go through a dozen touch process? It’s inefficient.
Control Center was a convenient way to disconnect your Apple Watch and force it to use its own GPS instead your iPhone's GPS, which is not reliable when it's in your pocket. As you noted, you'll now need to go into the Settings app to truly disconnect your Apple Watch. Too bad Apple doesn't offer a setting to use the watch's GPS without having to disconnect it from your iPhone.
