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Bluetooth and Wi-Fi Aren't Fully Disabled When Toggled Off in Control Center on iOS 11
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Not really. If you "disable" it using control centre it will still disconnect you from that dodgy WiFi and it wont automatically re-connect you unless to "enable" it again. All it ensures is that when another WiFi shows it will connect to that one automatically.
The average iPhone user probably does have loads of known open WiFi networks, that's what I see people doing all day - in a cafe for 5 minutes and joining the WiFi. Kids especially. Worse, most people don't know they can Forget networks, so every time they walk into a Cafe, they'll get the captive login (not to mention the fact that you can't see a list of known networks directly on your phone, so you can only Forget them when they're in range, or you reset network settings, or you use iCloud Keychain).
With this new feature, people will disable WiFi because they're getting asked to log in, only to walk past the next cafe and it'll be on again, asking them to log in again. OK, they might get used to this, but then one time they'll turn it off from settings, and it won't come back on, and they'll be confused. Without reading this post, and without a technical background, how would someone figure out that CC is a "temporary" disable, but settings is a "permanent" disable? Without knowing the intricacies (as the post describes), the feature feels like a bug, and that's exactly what the average user will think (IMHO). Time will tell though.
Back to 2012 for the advanced users. Yay!
I think this thread proves humanity is getting dumber. To everyone saying you can’t turn it off or don’t have control, read towards the bottom. Hint: in the settings app you can completely turn on/off WiFi/BT and it won’t turn on ever until you decide to.
Bunch of drama over nothing.
Bunch of drama over nothing.
can't quote sources but i was always concerned about this too but i remember checking several times with sources and in fact, turning off WiFi does in fact not save much battery UNLESS it is constantly TRYING to connect. it is in fact, not continuously scanning UNLESS you have the WiFi preference panel open.
I've seen some wild moments to get Apple to address some issues.....via medias like MR, youtube videos, and etc.
For example: people/medias/and etc were talking about lack of hardware updates, especially mac pro. I guess when issues like that was huge, it appeared Apple had no choice to respond.
Wherever he is, I'll bet a disembodied Steve fired somebody's ghost when he saw this.
There should be an option in settings somewhere to disable this all together and revert to the previous behavior. I get that apple was tired of all the support calls caused by users who are unaware that these features were turned off when BT/Wi-Fi are disabled, but as a power user, I find it annoying that Apple doesn't think I'm aware of what I'm doing. Sinking to the lowest common denominator without any choice (or notification) is not innovation, it's laziness.
There should be an option in settings somewhere to disable this all together and revert to the previous behavior. I get that apple was tired of all the support calls caused by users who are unaware that these features were turned off when BT/Wi-Fi are disabled, but as a power user, I find it annoying that Apple doesn't think I'm aware of what I'm doing. Sinking to the lowest common denominator without any choice (or notification) is not innovation, it's laziness.
only apple could do this: the shortcut button to turn the wifi off, doesn't turns the wifi off!
It just disconnects from the network. You have to go to the settings menu to turn it off.
It just disconnects from the network. You have to go to the settings menu to turn it off.
No, it'll reconnect if it re-enables itself from any of those conditions being met, which include "You walk or drive to a new location." I mean, it's not a big deal, just don't see why they did this.
On, Off, and Apple OnOff. "We invented a new standard and we think you are going to love it..."
What the hell is going on these days at the spaceship?
What the hell is going on these days at the spaceship?
So people begged for control center so they could turn off wifi and Bluetooth without going all the way to settings. So now we have pretend buttons that require us to go back all the way to settings again. Good times.
This is a PITA. My iphone has random issues with various wifi networks (particularly mesh) and I generally just flip the wifi off and then back on. After the update, it didn't seem to work anymore and was pretty irritated yesterday. I had to turn my phone off and back on to be able to change the music for my sonos as few times. This is a ridiculous "feature".
Now I understand why the battery goes down fast...
When I leave my iPad in an area just out of range of wifi, and I leave wifi on by accident, the battery runs down to 0% overnight. The next day my iOS experience is null until I can plug it in to shore power.
This can't be a feature, if you turn off bluetooth, it should be off, sounds more like a bug
I like the new way of doing things.
Reason? Temporarily disable wifi to take me off some crap wifi until I get back home or another place with a known network, at which point it'll join as normal. Temporarily turn off bluetooth to stop any devices connecting while still keeping the Apple ecosystem (handoff, Watch, Pencil thing) connected.
The good points: (1) The above. I like it. If you want wifi or bluetooth actually off, 3D touch settings or ask Siri.
The bad points: (1) Should be able to 3D touch in control centre to turn them on/off properly (2) The icons are rubbish and trick people into thinking the radios are off, leading to (3) most people won't know how it works now. The 5am thing? Where was that published anywhere for example?
Reason? Temporarily disable wifi to take me off some crap wifi until I get back home or another place with a known network, at which point it'll join as normal. Temporarily turn off bluetooth to stop any devices connecting while still keeping the Apple ecosystem (handoff, Watch, Pencil thing) connected.
The good points: (1) The above. I like it. If you want wifi or bluetooth actually off, 3D touch settings or ask Siri.
The bad points: (1) Should be able to 3D touch in control centre to turn them on/off properly (2) The icons are rubbish and trick people into thinking the radios are off, leading to (3) most people won't know how it works now. The 5am thing? Where was that published anywhere for example?
We know whats good for you, and how to best use your device
-Apple
Add a switch in the control center settings menu to reverse this behavior if you want to? Why in the world would we do such a thing?
-Apple
-Apple
Add a switch in the control center settings menu to reverse this behavior if you want to? Why in the world would we do such a thing?
-Apple
In regards to the buttons, there is a difference if it turned off or just not allowed to connect. The former has a slash through it, the latter is just grayed out.
Yes well believe it or not technology advances pretty fast and phones today do a thousand things more than 10 years ago.