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Glassbathroom said:
:) Its great to be in the UK!!! Apple can just charge anything they like. :)

Actually the difference is only about $7 ( ) if look at the UK price excluding VAT. Which is of course the only fair way to compare prices.

US- $69
UK- $76

Although I would like to know why it is not exactly the same (excluding tax) price as in the US. The when you live in the UK you get used to paying more for everything ! , which is one of the reasons why I don't live there anymore :)
 
Chundles said:
£49 = AUD$120, we pay AUD$109.

However US$69 = AUD$92

British price includes VAT, US price doesn't include the varying state taxes, now, if we take the GST off the Aussie price (I really wish the US would cotton onto the idea of displaying the full price for a good or service) we get AUD$99.09.

The cheapest decent quality wireless (RF) Laser mouse I could find today was MS's new one and it was AUD$99, it has four buttons. For $10 extra you get Bluetooth and a much nicer design - not to mention the integration into OSX, MS's Intellipoint software is both terrible and intrusive.

So we're not really getting shafted all that much.

I like your style Chundles, however I think it is still a bit unfair.

If you were buying a Quad Powermac, it is cheaper to fly to the US buy it there and then fly home and pay the UK VAT on it, than it is to buy it from the UK Apple Store. This can't be fair.

UK Price - £2,299

US Price in Pounds - £1,793
UK VAT - £314
Budget return flight to US - £180
 
Removed Mac Mini wireless keyboard + wireless mouse option

Apple removed from it store the option to buy the mac Mini directly with a wireless keyboard an a wireless mouse as it was still possible yesterday.
 
Glassbathroom said:
I like your style Chundles, however I think it is still a bit unfair.

If you were buying a Quad Powermac, it is cheaper to fly to the US buy it there and then fly home and pay the UK VAT on it, than it is to buy it from the UK Apple Store. This can't be fair.

UK Price - £2,299

US Price in Pounds - £1,793
UK VAT - £314
Budget return flight to US - £180

Hmm, Quad PowerMac you say...

Australian Price = AUD$5299 ($4817.27 ex GST) = £1970 (ex. VAT)

US Price (ex. Sales Tax) = US$3299 = AUD$4381 = £1791 (ex. VAT)
Budget return flight to US = ~AUD$1500+taxes = £613+taxes

Way cheaper just to buy it here.

Oh, Um, Mighty Mouse is priced evenly, if not better than competitors in Australia - just to keep this post on-topic.
 
BrianPeppers said:
Just curious if anybody here has popped into the Regent St Apple Store to see if they have the mouse in stock?

Yes, I bought the first two there last night.
 
Glassbathroom said:
I like your style Chundles, however I think it is still a bit unfair.

If you were buying a Quad Powermac, it is cheaper to fly to the US buy it there and then fly home and pay the UK VAT on it, than it is to buy it from the UK Apple Store. This can't be fair.

UK Price - £2,299

US Price in Pounds - £1,793
UK VAT - £314
Budget return flight to US - £180

The trouble is you won't have warranty coverage.

Apple One (1) Year Limited Warranty

Please access and review the online help resources referred to in the documentation accompanying this hardware product before requesting warranty service. If the product is still not functioning properly after making use of these resources, please contact the Apple representatives or, if applicable, an Apple Authorized Service Provider located using the information provided in the documentation. An Apple representative or Apple Authorized Service Provider will help determine whether your product requires service and, if it does, will inform you how Apple will provide it. Apple or its Apple Authorized Service Providers will provide warranty service on products that are tendered or presented for service during the Warranty Period, as permitted by law. If the product is portable, meaning that it can operate independently without a power cord, you may obtain warranty service worldwide. However, service will be limited to the options available in the country where service is requested. If the product is not portable, warranty service may be restricted to the country where the product is purchased. Service options, parts availability and response times will vary according to country. You may be responsible for shipping and handling charges if the product cannot be serviced in the country it is in. In accordance with applicable law, Apple may require that you furnish proof of purchase details and/or comply with registration requirements before receiving warranty service. Please refer to the accompanying documentation for more details on this and other matters on obtaining warranty service.
 
Chundles said:
Low power drain, it can run on one battery but runs longer on two. Might also be nice for those who found the old ones too heavy.

that's cool but it seems like with one battery, the circuit wouldn't be complete. will it?
 
sam10685 said:
that's cool but it seems like with one battery, the circuit wouldn't be complete. will it?
No the circuit would be complete with just one battery, otherwise they wouldn't advertise this as a feature. Either one or two batteries would either way complete a circuit and provide power.
 
When I bought the powermac mighty mouse was included. I was using it for about two months and I was really trying to get used to it. But guess what. I just couldn*t dealt with left and right clicks, and that annoying button on the bottom. I guess it*s just me but I am really happy with my regular optical wired logitech mouse. One thing I really liked about the mighy mouse is the scroll ball, but at the end of the day it didn*t really matter that much to me.

...
 
Glassbathroom said:
:) Its great to be in the UK!!! Apple can just charge anything they like. :)

I'm gonna buy mine on apple.com/ca - oddly, we dont have to pay any import tax in South Africa to bring in computer bits 'n bobs.
 
Greebazoid said:
I'm gonna buy mine on apple.com/ca - oddly, we dont have to pay any import tax in South Africa to bring in computer bits 'n bobs.

You'll have to ship to a Canadian address. They won't take orders from abroad! Bit of a shame really.
 
Chundles said:
...British price includes VAT, US price doesn't include the varying state taxes, now, if we take the GST off the Aussie price (I really wish the US would cotton onto the idea of displaying the full price for a good or service)...

Since we have no federal sales tax, if prices included state and local sales tax, you would have a mess of hundreds of prices on the same item, depending on where in the US it's located. You very quickly learn to do the math in your head when buying something locally, and you don't even have to worry about it at all when buying online (yeah, yeah, I know, there's use tax you have to pay, but not at time of purchase, and if you do actually pay it, hats off to you). It's much better this way. We like our lower taxes. As a matter of fact, I think we fought a war about them in about 1776 or so. Anyone know how that turned out? ;)

Anyway, not having federal sales tax creates competition between states and counties to lower sales tax to bring in customers. For example, NJ has a lower sales tax in general than NY does, to lure NY customers. So many people from NY go to NJ to buy stuff and save money. So recently, NY has offered "tax free" weeks to keep those customers in NY, and there is a general trend in NY now for lower sales tax. Groovy, smashing, yay capitalism!

With a federal sales tax, the government has few repurcussions for passing higher taxes (besides for disgruntled voters). If you're an Australian and want to buy a computer, where you gonna go? Papau New Guinea?
 
Chundles said:
Low power drain, it can run on one battery but runs longer on two. Might also be nice for those who found the old ones too heavy.

Check-in lady: "Sir, I'm sorry, but your carry-on bag is overweight by 23 grams. You'll have to find some way to reduce the weight."

Flyer: "Damn! How will I EVER manage to get my bag down by 23 ENTIRE grams??"

:)
 
It's not just the tax man that makes it more expensive to buy from Apple outside the USA, it's Apple. The tax is of course another factor.

Anyway I think we have done this to death previously. I am sorry that I contributed again on this. I still buy Apple products and probably will for the forseeable future.

There are other advantages to living outside the US :D :)

Anyway, quite excited about getting a new wireless mouse at some point soon. Way to go Apple!
 
Its €69 in Ireland regular store and

€62 with EDU discount here.

Strange there is no edu discount for others????
 
DTphonehome said:
Check-in lady: "Sir, I'm sorry, but your carry-on bag is overweight by 23 grams. You'll have to find some way to reduce the weight."

Flyer: "Damn! How will I EVER manage to get my bag down by 23 ENTIRE grams??"

:)


Did you go and weigh a battery, or is this the kind of information you retain?
 
DTphonehome said:
With a federal sales tax, the government has few repurcussions for passing higher taxes (besides for disgruntled voters). If you're an Australian and want to buy a computer, where you gonna go? Papau New Guinea?

I don't think a federal sales tax is even constitutional. They'd be dealing with intrastate commerce which is a power left to the states. That's why there is often no sales tax on internet purchases unless there is a presence by the company in your state.
 
airmac said:
When I bought the powermac mighty mouse was included. I was using it for about two months and I was really trying to get used to it. But guess what. I just couldn*t dealt with left and right clicks, and that annoying button on the bottom. I guess it*s just me but I am really happy with my regular optical wired logitech mouse. One thing I really liked about the mighy mouse is the scroll ball, but at the end of the day it didn*t really matter that much to me.

...
It's not just you. I hate the mighty mouse. The inability to right click while a finger rests on the left click region is a fundamental flaw. If they fix this with the BT version, I'll consider one. Otherwise, my Microsoft optical mouse functions perfectly.
 
guffman said:
I don't understand what you're saying at all. What is the advantage of 2 physical top buttons? I've never had an issue getting either button to function correctly...

Well, some people do...
I guess not every MM were born equal! ;)
 
I think you guys are all forgetting something. Apple produces some things in the US and some in Asian countries. It's probably easier to ship to the US, than other countries as we would be closer. It would also be easier to ship to Australia. The UK is much farther away.

Also, since shipping from a foreign company, they probably charge heavier fees upon importation. In the US, the shipments may come from another country, but the company that produces it is not foreign, so our importation taxes are either very small or non-existant.

State taxes, as you have been saying, are not included. Here in Florida, my mouse is going to cost me $73.83. That would be (according to your calculations) AUD$98 and £40.20. The actual prices are AUD$109 and £49. That's not that bad when you take into account the charges of importation.

For some reason my PowerBook came without paying tax, but lately I've had to pay tax on all orders through the online Apple Store. It's kind of annoying :D

I wish we had something similar to VAT, it was nice going to Ireland and knowing exactly how much stuff cost without having to do any math in my head. Of course the VAT is really high compared to US taxes. It's only 7% here (used to be 6% in my county but they raised it :().

Also, as someone said, we have other stupid things to deal with here that you guys don't, like having our TV censored even though it's cable because the FCC oversteps its bounds. And not to mention our dumbass president.

Someone mentioned that some states offer tax free weeks...just to clarify that's generally for back to school, as far as I know, so don't go thinking it's everything that can be sold. It most certainly doesn't apply to computer products. It's generally for clothes, school supplies, and sometimes things that should be on it aren't, and things that are (like ski equipment) are. And yes, I'm serious about the ski equipment. Ski equipment is tax free in Florida, or at least it was back when I worked in retail during the last tax free week.

This has become too long. Good luck to all in your mighty mouse purchases!
 
Multimedia said:
Unsung Feature - May Run On ONE AA Battery or Two, You Decide. I believe that would be a first among all consumer electronics. Anyone know of anything else that lets the second AA or AAA battery be optional? So while running on one rechargable, a second one can be in your recharger or case already recharged. Brilliant! :eek: :cool: ;) :D :)

I've been using the RF-USB Wireless Kensington Turbo Mouse Pro for two years.

I have a Logitech V270 bluetooth mouse. When I read this about the new Apple mouse, I decided to try and remove one of the batteries from my mouse and see it works. Well, it does! It works perfectly with a single AA battery, and it's sensibly ligther and more comfortable to use (that's the main advantage, in my opinion).
 
One or Two Batteries Is A Consumer Electronics Second

Gil_Grissom said:
No the circuit would be complete with just one battery, otherwise they wouldn't advertise this as a feature. Either one or two batteries would either way complete a circuit and provide power.
I believe this is a consumer electronics second. The most exciting thing about it to me. I use Kinsington wireless RF-USB Turbo Mouse Pro since 2004. :D Must have TWO AA batteries installed.
scretico said:
I have a Logitech V270 bluetooth mouse. When I read this about the new Apple mouse, I decided to try and remove one of the batteries from my mouse and see it works. Well, it does! It works perfectly with a single AA battery, and it's sensibly ligther and more comfortable to use (that's the main advantage, in my opinion).
Oops! :eek: Wonder why Logitech didn't publicize it as a feature. I think that is a very big deal.
 
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