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guzhogi

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Wherever my feet take me…
I'll believe it when I see it.

If it's real, I wouldn't mind it having a camera to play games like Xbox Kinect, as long as privacy is respected, of course.

I seriously doubt it'll happen, but I wouldn't mind it having a touch display, too. I work in a school, and all the classrooms have SMART boards (smarttech.com) where it's basically a big, 60"+ touchscreen for your computer. Helps with games & educational apps. Like I said, I doubt it'll happen. Even then, the ones my school has are thousands of dollars each (we have a very generous PTO), and need a separate LCD projector to actually show the picture on it. Add in the Apple Tax, and you get prohibitively expensive.
 
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Shlooky

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I wonder if they would incorporate the Apple TV box within the TV, making it an Apple Smart TV if you will.
 
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lockhartt

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There are no VESA mount holes on the back of this thing. Who would buy a 60" TV and not want to mount it on the wall (or at least have the option)?

Seems weird to me... though I suppose a prototype may lack such amenities. But the overall construction of this device does not seem like it would lend itself to adding VESA mount holes as the depth seems to shallow (and placing them in the thicker component area at the base would be awkwardly offset).

Stranger (and dumber) things have happened, but this looks more like something designed to be a computer monitor, size aside; though I'd still expect to see VESA mount holes on a monitor.

I'm intrigued, but skeptical.
 
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Bigsk8r

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Nov 28, 2011
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No. Whatever that is it's on a wooden table for EMC testing. This is the standard setup for ALL electronic equipment & goods. You use a wooden table, as it is inert in an EMC test, and it is placed on a turntable so that you can scan for emissions or test for interference from all angles and heightsThere is a pneumatically controlled antenna at the other end of the chamber.



Yes, you are correct. The first three photos show the device inside the chambers for radiated emissions and radiated immunity testing. The final one looks to be conducted immunity testing. Whist you're correct that it is normal to have the unit fully badged & serial-numbered when going for the official certification & report, there's nothing to stop you doing multiple (even hundreds) of pre-compliance runs with various stages of prototyping/development/pre-production/etc.

If that logo is a piece of plastic built into the rear case, they would want to test with that in place as early as possible, as this would be one of the potential areas for EMC issues.

As an Electromagnetic Compliance Engineer myself, I can verify the validity of the statements made by Gaspode67 and Arran with regard to the testing.

Also - as Gaspode67 points out - given Apple's propensity for wanting to embed their metal products with plastic logos and openings (AKA... RF noise emitting apertures), it is hard to determine how close to "final" this product might be. Having said that though, as a person waiting for something better than the 24" LED Display he has now and did not see the extra 3" that were offered before as worthy of a $1000 investment, this does interest me and I hope it's a product that makes it out eventually.

There is also the possibility that this is another companies product with an Apple log skillfully photoshopped in.
 
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Gaspode67

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As an Electromagnetic Compliance Engineer myself, I can verify the validity of the statements made by Gaspode67 and Arran with regard to the testing.

Also - as Gaspode67 points out - Given Apple's propensity for wanting to embed their metal products with plastic logos and openings (AKA... RF noise emitting apertures), it is hard to determine how close to "final" this product might be. Having said that though, as a person waiting for something better than the 24" LED Display he has now and and did not see the extra 3" that were offered before as worthy of a $1000 investment, this does interest me and I hope it's a product that makes it out eventually.

There is also the possibility that this is another companies product with an Apple log skillfully photoshopped in.

Nice to get the back-up, Bigsk8r! While I'm not an EMC Compliance Engineer myself, I've been an electronics engineer for 26 years, and I've spent many hours with guys like yourself, testing products we've developed. It was always nice going to a couple of the test houses I used to go to, as it guaranteed a decent Country Pub Lunch as a perk!;);)
 
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Bigsk8r

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Nice to get the back-up, Bigsk8r! While I'm not an EMC Compliance Engineer myself, I've been an electronics engineer for 26 years, and I've spent many hours with guys like yourself, testing products we've developed. It was always nice going to a couple of the test houses I used to go to, as it guaranteed a decent Country Pub Lunch as a perk!;);)

Nice... I work for ETS-Lindgren now and we used to have an office in Stevenage that I was fortunate enough to go to in December, 2015.
 
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Erdbeertorte

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This is almost certainly an 8K 60-inch Cinema Display with a docking option for the new Mac Mini on the back.
 
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teamgibbs

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Aug 14, 2008
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Love the "fact" that even when they are super early in prototyping, they still manage to put a clear and easy to recognize Apple logo on the back. Right in the middle of it.

I call BS! :D

If it is indeed real, for all we know they have been sitting on this literally for years. My point is the project could be very mature at this stage. They probably develop and chase all kinds of ideas and products that never see the light of day.
 
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alphaod

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What's going to happen sooner or later is these testing facilities will have metal detectors and people who go there will be permitted to bring inside any electronic devices.
 
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brock2621

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Jun 8, 2007
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This was posted yesterday in the forums and I took it into photoshop and found it was faked (there was a box over the apple logo). It looks like the poster actually deleted the entire original thread and then took the photos and blurred them a ton MORE and reposted them to try and hide the fact it was faked. The ones posted yesterday were much more clear.

Here's the less blurry original version and here's what shows up when running error level analysis:
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Ghost31

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Oh God... Now they are getting into TV? Can't think of why they would get themselves into such a saturated market.
"Why is Apple making a phone? There are billions of them. They won't even make a dent"

Because tvs are boring and the innovation is about as exciting as your grandmas stamp collection. Just like Steve jobs said when he was asked and excitedly told us what could happen with the tv industry, the user interface needs to be completely redone for a seamless experience. With apple coming strong with the homepod this year, they clearly want to make a play for being in everybody's living room. The tv USED to be what everybody looked at before staring at your phone like a zombie became the norm. If anybody can make watching tv on a real tv exciting again, it's apple.

Check it. Jobs' vision for tv CLEARLY wasn't the current gen Apple TV box you hook up.

 
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jgdeschamps

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They are testing 3D Virtual Reality without glasses for desktop use, and they came up with this huge monitor for the future modular Mac Pro. You have to place the display in front of you at no more than 12" away from you. It features self-focusing pixels that achieve a 3D effect depending on where you are looking at and the way you rotate your head. It also features 3D Touch compatible with Unity or Unreal Engine out of the box. Expandable audio for up to 7 HomePods for surround sound. And that's my Wall Street-level analysis...
 
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zoomp

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In so far behind in the tv thing. I still haven’t upgraded to 4K. I just don’t see the difference that I did when we jumped to HD. I realize technically the pixel jump is even higher, but I just can’t get myself to pull the trigger.
Actually the percetual resolution gain is no so obvious. Tons of hollywood films are still being finished in 2k (tad more than HD).

Good actual evidence by a very well informed and positioned DoP (next star war film will be shot by him):
http://yedlin.net/ResDemo/ResDemoPt2.html
 
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jtrenthacker

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If this is true (a big IF), then I assume Apple will have all the latest specs and goodies like 4k, OLED, HDR10 & DolbyVision. Add a metal (aluminum?) enclosure and maybe things like a FaceTime camera & mic, built in TVOS and most likely decent speaker system (for a flat panel) and there is no way most people are going to pay what Apple is going to ask. I figure 55" $4999 and 60" $5999.

I'd rather pay less than half that for bleeding edge performance from the likes of LG, Samsung and Sony.
 
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Ghost31

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I won't even bother checking it out if it's not 3D.
Haaaaaa. Thanks for the laugh
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I think the human mind is an interesting thing. Like how people take the internet and what it tells them SO seriously that they're ready to believe things based on nothing.

Apple has said no to things that we are currently using right this second.
 
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melancholy

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Blurry photo's make the photograph all the more believable though. No one wants to get caught, so it has to be quick, hence motion blur.

This could be believable. We saw iOS 7 taken from a blurry shot by another phone. It was like taken by a phone by another phone. And it was only iOS 7 with some minor changes. Game Center icon with the circles confirms this
 
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Relentless Power

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Metal body, thin bezels. Around 60-inch. Design Looks decent. This is going to be really exciting September event, Apple will introduce new devices.

As Another forum member already indicated to you , You do realize this was in testing, right? There is no sufficient evidence this is launching in September. Furthermore, how are you able to decipher the design looking "Decent" off a blurred photo?
 
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