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He admitted a lot of circumstantial evidence against himself on that call, but nothing specific. While some of what he said could be taken as absolving Skyler, I think its a possibility that she can still be liable for her role in all of this. That is of course, if the pieces of the puzzle are ever discovered at the DEA. With Hank and Gomez dead, did anyone else really know what was going on? The APD weren't in on any of this so they should not be considered a factor.

All they have is Skyler and Marie at this point. But they don't know where the money is, or was. They don't know where Hank and Gomez are physically - they are beyond reasonably sure they're dead.

Despite Skyler turning against Walt, there is still a chance of Stockholm Syndrome I think. Once she gets Holly back, she may clam up and not talk to the police. <-- I kind of doubt that though.
 
the Stockholm defense may have been worked out in the event he got arrested . I realize she attacked him and that definitely was not planned . When push comes to shove , Walt will do anything to protect his family . he gave her a pass with the Ted situation . he understands why she freaked when she did.



Upon listening/watching that phone call again, why was he so vague? I believe Skylar will still be held responsible for many felonies.

he gave the police just enough to absolve his wife of any wrong doing . Enter Saul .
 
He was abusive on the phone call the make her look like a victim. He knew exactly what he was doing. When Holly said mama walt's heart broke and he decided to clear skylar's name and return holly. GREAT episode. Adios Hank, he played a great role.

Anyone else getting into Ray Donovan on Showtime? ANother fantastic series in the making. Right up there with sopranos and breaking bad
 
He was abusive on the phone call the make her look like a victim. He knew exactly what he was doing. When Holly said mama walt's heart broke and he decided to clear skylar's name and return holly. GREAT episode. Adios Hank, he played a great role.

Anyone else getting into Ray Donovan on Showtime? ANother fantastic series in the making. Right up there with sopranos and breaking bad

Yeah, I've really enjoyed Ray Donovan so far. Is it a 12 episode season like Dexter?
 
He was abusive on the phone call the make her look like a victim. He knew exactly what he was doing. When Holly said mama walt's heart broke and he decided to clear skylar's name and return holly. GREAT episode. Adios Hank, he played a great role.

Anyone else getting into Ray Donovan on Showtime? ANother fantastic series in the making. Right up there with sopranos and breaking bad

Sundays are Tough . BB then RD . Boardwalk has to wait till BB is over. RD has been just outstanding. this last episode was crazy. i gotta say , in this last episode of RD , the wifes mix messages was annoying
 
I agree with the above theory that Jesse helps Todd cook and the nazis don't kill him. I think Walt will try to come back and finish off Jesse but I have a feeling that Jesse will win the showdown, putting a close to Walt's madness.

I'm not sure that is how it's going to go down.

I think that Walt will find out Jesse is alive and cooking and probably figure out that it is against his will and come to save him. The reason I think Walt will save Jesse is because I think it is a real possibility that Walt is going is tired and alone (possibly because his family is dead) and Jesse is the only "family" he has left.

Also, apparently Vince Gilligan told Bryan Cranston that he was going to save someone in that flash forward at the beginning of season 5A.
 
This article sums up my opinions of Walter White almost perfectly. It's not so much that he's a good person with bad qualities, as he is a terrible human being with a few redeeming features.

One of the most brilliant things about Breaking Bad is how he's manipulated us, the audience, just as thoroughly as everyone else in the show. You can't help but root for the guy, despite the fact that he should be the last person anyone roots for. Everything he's done since season 1, every seemingly alturistic act on his part, has always had the underlying goal of stoking his own ego, of putting himself in a position of power over everyone else around him. Walt never does anything unless he can directly benefit from it.

Yeah, it's exciting watching someone transform from a seemingly meek underdog to someone who's taken the reigns of his own life, but the fact is he's only in the position we find him in at the beginning of the show due to his own bad qualities. He should be a billionaire, right alongside Elliot and everyone else involved with Grey Matters. He's got the intelligence. He's got the drive. But his own terrible quirks have kept him from any form of true success in his life. He doesn't want to share the spotlight, fights and sabotages everyone around him tooth and nail to get it, then blames these same people for being shortsighted and ignorant when everything starts falling apart around them. He has no one to blame but himself for how his life turned out. But he's too narcissistic and self centered to ever consider that, and instead finds ways to project the blame elsewhere.

We've seen enough of his past to realize what he's doing now isn't an entirely new experience for him. History is repeating itself, only this time the results are much more terrible and damaging because he's empowering himself after seething with resentment and nursing a persecution complex for a good couple of decades.

Walt's not a complete monster. Even though he's a terrible father, husband, and friend, he does care about the people around him in his own way. He's just too much of a bastard to ever be as good a person as he could be.

This is why I think the show's gonna end by somehow placing him in a situation where he finally comes to realize what kind of person he is, but then realizes it's far too late for him to do anything about it. All he can do is look at the lives he's ruined, thinking about he's the one responsible for all that destruction while the cancer slowly kills him off. For someone like Walt, who prides himself on his ability to act, and thinks himself capable of fixing any problem, it's be an absolute ironic hell to suffer through in the closing months of his life.

And he deserves it.
 
Walt is diabolical and manipulative, but some of that article is plain wrong in my opinion. Particularly this part:

Here's one more idea to put on the pile: A big part of the reason Walt was willing to let Skyler off the hook is because, in the scenario he laid out on the phone, he got to see himself as the winner. In that phone call, he had the upper hand (she would have gone along with anything to get Holly back), and he used it to get her to go along with him (again). But more importantly, the story he spun didn't just lead the police away from Skyler, it made them look like impotent losers who couldn't catch him. He turned the situation into a "win" by creating a useful narrative spun from things he really did think and feel.

The exact opposite is true. Walter does not see himself as the winner in this scenario. The reason he started all of this was to protect his family and their future. At this moment in the phone call, he realizes that that cause is lost, completely and utterly. Moreover, the love he has for his family to start it, isn't even recognized or cared about anymore. He's mourning the loss of his family. That's why the phone call takes place directly after the scene with Holly. He realizes he has to let go.

A lot of Walt's failings have been about how his intentions and plans failed. Not the successes of his plans to hurt. Do people miss Tuco or Gus? Did they not deserve death? Those were planned/desired. Mike, Hank, Gale-- none of that was planned. In my opinion the most heinous thing he planned and carried out was poisoning the little boy. The premeditated murder of Jesse is up there too.
 
The exact opposite is true. Walter does not see himself as the winner in this scenario. The reason he started all of this was to protect his family and their future. At this moment in the phone call, he realizes that that cause is lost, completely and utterly. Moreover, the love he has for his family to start it, isn't even recognized or cared about anymore. He's mourning the loss of his family. That's why the phone call takes place directly after the scene with Holly. He realizes he has to let go.

Yeah, I took some exceptions with that paragraph, too. I don't think it's wrong exactly, just a more cynical view of the character.

Walt's biggest weakness, the one reason he's truly doing what he does, is his constant need for affirmation and recognition. He's not a complete psychopath. He does love his family. But in a way he's still getting what he wants. I think everyone knowing he's Heisenberg will give him some cold satisfaction, even in this darkest of moments.

A lot of Walt's failings have been about how his intentions and plans failed. Not the successes of his plans to hurt. Do people miss Tuco or Gus? Did they not deserve death? Those were planned/desired. Mike, Hank, Gale-- none of that was planned. In my opinion the most heinous thing he planned and carried out was poisoning the little boy. The premeditated murder of Jesse is up there too.

I'd say it's around the time Walt started dealing with Gus and Mike that he went from being the good guy doing a bad thing, to being just as bad as everyone else. Gus was a threat to him, sure, but he was relatively calm, more indirect potential threat rather than a looming one that needed to be taken care of immediately. It was only through Walt's constant belligerance that Gus responded the way he did.

And Gale? It doesn't matter that his murder wasn't premeditated, it was that he went ahead with it, and didn't feel a single bit of remorse afterwards. In fact, he treated the whole ordeal as a victory, and kept that book Gale gave him as a trophy to remind him of it.

Mike? That was Walt at his most raw and petty. He died simply because he pissed Walt off.

Brock? That just goes to show how Walt is willing to treat people like chess pieces to be manipulated rather than...well...people.

Him ordering Jesse's death was pretty much old hat to him by that point. The only reason he did it with a heavy heart is because he thought of him as his surrogate son.
 
new spinoff ! starring Walt Jr

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Breaking Bad Series Finale Ratings

Im thinking that next Sunday's series finale of Breaking Bad might be the biggest night in the history of TV ratings. There have been a lot of great shows on TV in the past, and while some might not be into Breaking Bad, it has taken over Sunday nights. I find it nuts that when Im watching NFL games, and reading tweets, most of the tweets are about how many hours until the next episode of Breaking Bad begins, not Aaron Rodgers throwing for 400 years and 4 TDs. I think in the age of social media, its going to be the biggest night we've seen yet. Does it top President Obama, with his 320k tweets per minute when he was re-elected?
 
I don't think the record will fall. It will take a lot to beat M.A.S.H.

Superbowl XLVI was 168.8 million. MASH was 125.59 million.
 
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