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Bruce Willis Considering Lawsuit Against Apple Over iTunes Store Music Transferability [Updated]

This has to be a joke?

First off this must be just a way to get his name in out in the headlines?
I share my iTunes account with my wife, daughter & my son so I really don't get what the bonehead is after other then getting some publicity!
Give us a break:cool:
 
longtimelurker said:
So last week I bought a twenty song playlist from iTunes, and it was added to my new MBP and iPhone. All good until I tried to burn it to a disc so I could play it in my truck. Oops, the error message says that can't be done. WTF? So I can't even use my own purchased music??? :(
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You can. Millions do that. Somewhere along the line either you made some mistake, or there is some software bug, or some hardware broken. You should post as precisely as possible what error message you got, and I'm sure someone will post something helpful.


rsocal said:
I share my iTunes account with my wife, daughter & my son so I really don't get what the bonehead is after other then getting some publicity!
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What you do is illegal. I fully agree that it should be legal, but it isn't. And that is what this "bonehead" is after: Allowing his children to use his music collection _legally_. Or allowing his heirs, or anybody's heirs, to sell someone's music collection after that person died.
 
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ArcaneDevice said:
I'm actually more surprised that musician and music fan Bruce Willis has a large enough iTunes collection to care about. I would be expecting him to have vinyl and CDs. If you are a fan of a band then having physical copies is part of the experience.

My CD collection never expires (and don't bother bringing up disc rot) and I can rip it into any DRM-free format I like for as many devices as I like, for less than or equal to the price of any content on iTunes and it's always available. Not to mention all the unique packaging and signed copies I have.

If you want to leave CDs to your kids you just put them in a box and slide them across the floor. You don't have to piss around with DRM and licensing.

One of the many, many reasons why a digital-only music collection is for those who really don't care about music, or suckers.
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Now the bad side is that you have carry all that physical stuff around. Takes up space in apartments and stuff to carry when moving.

This was the reason why I felt I could never expand to over 200 DVDs. CDs of course are a bit smaller.

The other thing is that you can't change music easily and fast like you can with digital music.
 
I was interested until I read "the sun" and "the daily mail"... This is likely to be just plain made up. They do that a lot in these 2 newspapers.
 
Hey Bruce,

Turn on Home Share and authorize your account on her iTunes. Copy. Done.

Crisis averted.
 
Rot'nApple said:
You didn't purchase music, you just purchased DIGITAL rights to the music. Burning it to a disc would make that PHYSICAL, thus the error message. You own nothing, well, but a bunch of 0's and 1's.
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Right. I "bought" music, but don't have rights to the music because of legalese that iTunes employs to prohibit my use of what I should own. That is more than a bunch of 0's and 1's, its BS. :eek:
 
omenatarhuri said:
Now the bad side is that you have carry all that physical stuff around. Takes up space in apartments and stuff to carry when moving.

This was the reason why I felt I could never expand to over 200 DVDs. CDs of course are a bit smaller.

The other thing is that you can't change music easily and fast like you can with digital music.
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Carry it?

My CD and vinyl collection never moves once it's been ripped. It sits in CD cabinets and the only space it takes up is the same space a picture on a wall takes up.

After that it exists on iPods and a NAS where every device I have can access it.
 
ValSalva said:
Apple doesn't care what happens to one's individual music collection. They just want to sell everyone more hardware.

He should sue the record companies who dictate these kinds of greedy terms to Apple.
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Apple is much worse than the record companies.

Hense the legal action for price fixing books in the US and the EU
 
Good thing I buy physical albums. I was never really a fan of digital music. I am but I rip them through my CD.
 
Marcode said:
Without authorising my partner's iTunes to play tracks that I buy from Apple, they won't play. You can only authorise 5 machines using your iTunes ID.

Each track we buy from Apple comes tagged with our Apple ID. The last time I tried converting them to a DRM-free mp3, I got a message saying that it's not allowed.

I would use DRM-free very loosely for tracks bought from Apple
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I'm calling BS on this.

I just tried this with an iTunes Plus (.m4a) song, and it converted from AAC to MP3 just fine.

The only tracks you can't convert are the original FairPlay DRM'ed (.m4p) iTunes music at 128kbps bit rates.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Carry it?

My CD and vinyl collection never moves once it's been ripped. It sits in CD cabinets and the only space it takes up is the same space a picture on a wall takes up.
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That's a mighty thin cabinet. Must be from Ikea. I guess it also magicly moves itself when you move from one location to the other.
 
Apple will probably point him to the record companies and tell him that he should have just read the t&c more carefully, i think... Now if he would sue some record companies that would be a different story.
 
Welcome the Apple's Ecosystem Bruce! You have taken your first steps out of the reality distortion field. Careful, you'll run into a lot of blind loyalists who will call you all sorts of childish names as you make your way out.
 
But where does it end? If your able to pass it on to your next of kin, then that means that person can too. How many vinyls or CD's really last that long. If you play a record every few days, it does stop working after a while. Just like these physical items do not last, neither should digital music. At the price you pay, it's one of those things you make a CHOICE to give up. Do I pay $16-$20 for an album and be able to pass it on and have to take care of it to make sure it makes it or do I pay $3.87 to buy the only 3 songs I really like on that album by digital download and have the freedom of carrying it in my pocket or wherever else and play it at any time and save money?

I know people who have passed on music collections. It's a physical gift. I'm big on technology and own lots of gadgets but I know if I want to pass something on, I have to buy it physically to do that. If Bruce "wins" then we will all lose with higher prices on digital content.
 
Glad he's doing it because at some point, someone had to bring this up. What really does happen to your digital belongings when you die?
 
The question is even if they do limit transfers in the terms and conditions. Does the First Sale Doctrine override such terms? You can put whatever you want in a contract however any terms that are illegal can be invalidated. Such as Autodesk getting slapped down when they tried to limit resale in their EULA.

This needs to be revisited for all downloadable media. Such as not being able to transfer Steam purchases. Even when you buy a physical copy of a game yet it requires Steam to play. The question needs to be answered once and for all who is the owner of digital content the distributor or the buyer.

To me just bacause you downloaded it makes it no different than if you got physical media from a store. You bought so you own it.

Also how come this is even an issue in the first place? People would be going apes**t if say the auto manufacturers slipped in terms saying you cannot resell your car, it can't start without being activated or stopped working after losing it's Internet connection. What makes a virtual product different in customer rights to a physical product?
 
One can't just hand over ones apple ID. You have to be alive to have an apple ID. Read the fine print, as someone suggested Bruce to do.
and talking about fine print. Only because the T&C say so, doesn't mean it's legal. So go for it, Bruce. I hope you make them change this.
 
gnasher729 said:
You can. Millions do that. Somewhere along the line either you made some mistake, or there is some software bug, or some hardware broken. You should post as precisely as possible what error message you got, and I'm sure someone will post something helpful.
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OK

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