MY hubbys iPhone 6s is still supported (7 years this year) and my friends android phone of two years is not….do the math plus ALL iOS updates arrive at the same time whereas android updates at the behest of the phone manufacturer ….
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Budget Phone Comparison: Apple's iPhone SE vs. Samsung's Galaxy A53 5G
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Last I checked antiques ( (when the the term js nit beeing used as a slur fir somthing being outdated) are actually rather pricy and may even be a sign of wealth and status, so maby the wird antique is not as negativly loaded as you think, might I sudgest the woed outdated or severely outdated instead, at any rate, have a nice day.
ok this might be because english is no my native language but, does budget countios mean and individual that only cares about price of purchase ( Ie minimising it) or could it allso mean an individual that cares about rco over a lroducts luftine ( in this case until the lroduct stops geting securety oatches, because running a pn un batchet internet connected deveice ( esp alhone spwhich today idps used for evryrhing including but not limited to banking) is a horribly bad idea
That's one way to leave out that Samsung is supporting the A53 5G for longer than even Google does it's own phone. The A53 get's software updates for 4 years and security updates for at least 5 years. Samsung is setting the bar very high for the Android world here.
Actually I like the home button. Paying for stuff using Face ID is an absolute pain with covid shields and being over 6ft.
But we don't need to take your word for it at all... What other manufacturers do has nothing to do with what Samsung does, and fact is that they support their phones well into an acceptable time range of 4 years of feature updates and 5 years of security updates. Yeah Apple goes a year longer on average, but you're then ignoring that *a ton* of things that Apple has to put in iOS updates are not OS updates on Android, built-in apps, API services, etc. are all just updated through the store, often far over 7 years after release. Every device running Android 4.4 from 2013 is still receiving Play Service updates, with 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3 only being dropped late last year.
This article is purposefully leaving that support life span out for no reason other than to put the A53 in a bad light, despite 5 years of support being a very acceptable time span. Especially in this price range. Actually, the reason is very obvious: updates and the SoC are the only arguments pro iPhone SE here, and updates are simply not that much of a difference and very few people will care for an A15 in this price range, especially on a device like this.
So, you get a bigger, better screen, you get more storage, and you can even expand it, and you get a ton of cameras which are better at least on paper. Fair enough, and if that's what defines a good smartphone for you then Samsung's value proposition is much, much better. Really, if that's what you are in the market for then the A53 probably is one of the best offers you can get.
However: what does a 120hz screen really do for you if the SoC struggles to drive it? Do you actually "feel" the value if what you are holding is cheap plastic? Does a phone really satisfy you when it vibrates like it's from the early 2000's? Is your browsing experience really that much enhanced when your pages take notably longer to render? Is face recognition that is actually so much of a security concern that you can't use it for anything else than unlocking your phone - and that at your own peril - even a feature? Is having to notably wait for your fingerprint sensor worth the additional screen real estate?
If you can answer those questions with "yes" then I guess this is the phone for you, but I also guess we diametrically disagree on what makes a good device - and I'm happy Apple see's it my way as these are corners Apple is not willing to cut. Is the SE design dated? I would argue it's ergonomically still the best Apple has come up with, but hell, yes, it is. Could Apple have done a better job with it, like taking a 10 or 11 series chassis with a power button fingerprint sensor? Clearly. Could they sell it for 300 bucks and still make a healthy profit? You bet. But I actually dare competing smartphone manufacturers to get the above mentioned points right and still deliver that at 400 bucks. And I'm rather confident you'll see them then compromising on similar things Apple does with the SE, most notably cameras and screen quality and size.
So, with all the anti-hype surrounding the SE and what other phones do better at similar price points I would like people to consider the overall product and what the SE actually still does notably better than competing models and not forget about that in face of shiny on-paper specs that hardly translate to real world use.
That being said: Someone owning a 2020 SE has no reason to upgrade, and if all you want is a phone with the 6/7/8 form factor you might consider buying a used 8 for half if not less the price. So Apple really needs to up their game if they actually want to sell the SE 2024 - if there ever will be such a device. Because a point well taken is that Apple has no clear intention to even sell the SE to that many customers when what they really want is for you to buy the iPhone 14 Pro Ultra Max Duo Gigachad Edition. And I think Apple should follow this path at their own exceptional peril. A lot of the appeal of the Apple eco system is that it is well supported despite iOS being a proprietary island solution. And this support would eventually wane if Apple has no attractive entry level offering and hence will lose overall user share.
However: what does a 120hz screen really do for you if the SoC struggles to drive it? Do you actually "feel" the value if what you are holding is cheap plastic? Does a phone really satisfy you when it vibrates like it's from the early 2000's? Is your browsing experience really that much enhanced when your pages take notably longer to render? Is face recognition that is actually so much of a security concern that you can't use it for anything else than unlocking your phone - and that at your own peril - even a feature? Is having to notably wait for your fingerprint sensor worth the additional screen real estate?
If you can answer those questions with "yes" then I guess this is the phone for you, but I also guess we diametrically disagree on what makes a good device - and I'm happy Apple see's it my way as these are corners Apple is not willing to cut. Is the SE design dated? I would argue it's ergonomically still the best Apple has come up with, but hell, yes, it is. Could Apple have done a better job with it, like taking a 10 or 11 series chassis with a power button fingerprint sensor? Clearly. Could they sell it for 300 bucks and still make a healthy profit? You bet. But I actually dare competing smartphone manufacturers to get the above mentioned points right and still deliver that at 400 bucks. And I'm rather confident you'll see them then compromising on similar things Apple does with the SE, most notably cameras and screen quality and size.
So, with all the anti-hype surrounding the SE and what other phones do better at similar price points I would like people to consider the overall product and what the SE actually still does notably better than competing models and not forget about that in face of shiny on-paper specs that hardly translate to real world use.
That being said: Someone owning a 2020 SE has no reason to upgrade, and if all you want is a phone with the 6/7/8 form factor you might consider buying a used 8 for half if not less the price. So Apple really needs to up their game if they actually want to sell the SE 2024 - if there ever will be such a device. Because a point well taken is that Apple has no clear intention to even sell the SE to that many customers when what they really want is for you to buy the iPhone 14 Pro Ultra Max Duo Gigachad Edition. And I think Apple should follow this path at their own exceptional peril. A lot of the appeal of the Apple eco system is that it is well supported despite iOS being a proprietary island solution. And this support would eventually wane if Apple has no attractive entry level offering and hence will lose overall user share.
Although I totally agree with you with the touch ID -versus- Face ID argument in terms of Apple Pay, the Apple Watch eliminates both of those issues from both biometric security options, because it’s right at your wrist when you need it. And the fact that the Apple Watch by far is the one of the most popular smart watches, Apple Pay really should be the primary on your wrist, and your phone serving as a secondary payment method.
You can buy a brand new iPhone 8 for £200 on ebay, so if you're in the market for an iPhone 6 class phone, I don't know why you'd buy a brand new version.
I hate this notion that Apple creates SEs to please some sort of abstract, non-existent demographic that prefers old tech but somehow also also spends several hundred dollars every 2-3 years to jump to the latest chip.
Stop this nonsense!
You'd all go for for iPhones 13 or 13 mini if you could get them for $400, or even just $500.
You're just being wise with your money or can't afford more. That's why you're going for the SE. That's all it is.
Nothing wrong in that. But stop this narrative of the SE 3 being exciting or some sort of cool, vintage offering that Apple makes to cater to those who're long for the good old days of 2014.
The SE is nothing more than Apple's way of saying "We know you all want our industry-leading SoC and premium brand products so bad that you're willing to settle with paying $400+ for a 5-year-old iPhone, with a design that debuted in 2014".
Exorbitant profit margins from predominantly dated and very, very inexpensive components is the reason Apple keeps doing SEs. And to underline the reasons why you're not getting anything worth getting excited about unless you go above $499.
You know you've stuck your head too far up your own when you're arguing that the SE 3 is a great product and that you want the 720p display over an 1080p one, prefer single camera, prefer the small battery, prefer all the 2014/2017 components, etc.
HELLO! You don't have to lie about what you want just because Apple doesn't give you more for $429.
Stop these white lies and just admit you're being smart with your money or don't have more to spend on consumer electronics.
HELLO! You don't have to lie about what you want just because Apple doesn't give you more for $429.
Stop these white lies and just admit you're being smart with your money or don't have more to spend on consumer electronics.
I’ll still take the well-balanced 32 year old over hyper-fashionable talented in some areas but but kinda messed up at the core wanna-be 21 year old.
Apple has a big concern. Imagine Apple builds a new SE with full screen covering LCD or OLED, integrated ultrasonic fingerprint reader and a decent camera. Just a good camera, maybe only two sensor instead go 3 or 4 and no FaceId.
NO ONE (nearly no one) would still buy those >= $1000 iPhones.
NO ONE (nearly no one) would still buy those >= $1000 iPhones.
Apple was wrong that's why they slashed production of the SE and has ramped up production of the !3. People prefer the 13 over the antique SE.
Apple reportedly cuts production of its new iPhone SE by 20%
The company reportedly aims to lower production of its iPhone SE, its first 5G capable phone costing $429, by about 2 million units to 3 million.
Apple reportedly cuts production of its new iPhone SE by 20%
The company reportedly aims to lower production of its iPhone SE, its first 5G capable phone costing $429, by about 2 million units to 3 million.
With all this talk about screen size when I watch this video in landscape mode I have huge black basils on both sides of my Pro Max, almost mimicking the iPhone SE 3 screen size. If I double tap the video then peoples heads are cut off, why can’t they just produce the video at the pro max size from the beginning?
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With the speeds of 5G and large data plans, storage should not be an issue anymore with Apple‘s iPhone.
I’m surprised they don’t have an iPhone device that has zero storage and everything is stored on iCloud. (maybe a small amount of ram for caching apps and current boot iOS) This could reduce the cost of the device and the starting price could be $299 but requires a minimum of $0.99 a month iCloud account upon activation.
I’m surprised they don’t have an iPhone device that has zero storage and everything is stored on iCloud. (maybe a small amount of ram for caching apps and current boot iOS) This could reduce the cost of the device and the starting price could be $299 but requires a minimum of $0.99 a month iCloud account upon activation.
Calling and texting and some basic work stuff - I guess I don't understand why you needed an iPhone at all.
Don't be fooled with the high refresh rate panels of the mid-range Android. They're non-adaptive, meaning most of them it's either high refresh rate all the time (which is not good for the battery), or not. On and off only.
The fancy LTPO panels that Apple used are only used in highest Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra and S22 Ultra models.
It's called aspect ratio. The tall aspect ratio of modern phones are still new, and not as common as the widescreen 16:9 standard. More and more youtubers are adapting to the wider phone aspect ratio (eg. 20:9), but considering majority of laptops, monitors, and TVs are in 16:9, 16:9 will still be the standard.With all this talk about screen size when I watch this video in landscape mode I have huge black basils on both sides of my Pro Max, almost mimicking the iPhone SE 3 screen size. If I double tap the video then peoples heads are cut off, why can’t they just produce the video at the pro max size from the beginning?
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Of course, for content creators, best way is to shoot in 16:9 but with consideration of 20:9 aspect ratio when framing the scene. So when the video is zoomed in, no significant content is lost.
Samsung A53 definitely looks far better than the outdated design of iPhone SE. But iPhone SE is a good phone performance wise. It will be getting software updates for many years.
Software updates are good if they didn’t cripple battery life. But same thing happens in the android world as well. And to be very honest here, I really don’t know what the updates provided other than more emojis. ?
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Slashing production as needed is nothing foreign in just-in-time productions. It may not have any correlation with demand.Apple was wrong that's why they slashed production of the SE and has ramped up production of the !3. People prefer the 13 over the antique SE.
Apple reportedly cuts production of its new iPhone SE by 20%
The company reportedly aims to lower production of its iPhone SE, its first 5G capable phone costing $429, by about 2 million units to 3 million.www.cnbc.com