I never said in any way that I was against the SE. I was only commenting on the idea that the A53 will lose it's updates "long before the SE".
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Budget Phone Comparison: Apple's iPhone SE vs. Samsung's Galaxy A53 5G
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The target audience are you children as in 8 and 9 years old. They'd be birthday gifts for my sisters kids. I wouldn't even buy one for a high school kid.
I just couldn't imagine anyone keeping a budget phone for that long.
On that first point, I'll acquiesce; I misattributed to you DEman's commentary. I'm still not convinced on the latter, but that probably goes without saying.
The bottom line to this discussion is actually pretty simple: We're all merely speculating on future events. We don't know how this 3rd Gen SE will fair in the market, as it was only just released less than a month ago. We have indicators which suggest that Apple had higher expectations initially, and those expectations had to be adjusted due to various events, not the least of which is the war in Ukraine -- but they still expect to sell millions of SE handsets. Even that is a speculation, though perhaps a slightly more informed one.
Time will tell, and if we're being quite honest, all of us will probably still hold roughly the same opinions a year from now, when they announce sales and follow that up by releasing the 4th Gen SE.
I do think, however, that we are mostly in violent agreement that we hope that next year's SE (if indeed there is one) finally sheds that perplexing front mounted home button... but on that, we'll just have to wait and see.
The battery is fine but not great. I have never run out of juice, and I typically just plug-in at night. I do have a portable charger ($19 on Amazon) that I take with me when I go sailing, since I might use the gps and navigation app for hours at a time. I just throw it into my duffel bag, so it is no hassle. Otherwise, the battery is sufficient for my use.
The SE 3 2022 is pretty sad but for those that want an iPhone with a fingerprint reader and a not so outrageous price it's the best that can be done.
Apple in March came out with the updated 2022 iPhone SE, a budget iPhone that's equipped with 5G. Samsung also recently came out with its own budget 5G smartphone, the Galaxy A53 5G, so we thought we'd compare the two to see how they measure up. In short, the A53 5G is offering up a better feature set, but it can't match the iPhone SE in terms of lifespan and build quality.
On paper, the Galaxy A53 5G offers a wide suite of features that the iPhone can't match. When it comes to the display, for example, the Galaxy A53 5G has a more modern edge-to-edge 6.5-inch 1080p AMOLED display with a 120Hz refresh rate, while the iPhone SE is sporting a smaller 4.7-inch display with thick, outdated bezels. The display is bright, vibrant, and at 1080p, noticeably better than the iPhone SE display.
Samsung has also equipped its smartphone with an ultrasonic fingerprint reader that's under the display and facial recognition, while the iPhone SE is using a standard Touch ID Home button, but Samsung's ultrasonic fingerprint reader is slower and less accurate than Touch ID, and the facial recognition is not on the Face ID level. It can be used for unlocking the smartphone, but not for making payments or authenticating passwords. Touch ID is being phased out from the iPhone, but it's still quick, responsive, and simple to use.
The Galaxy A53 5G is made from plastic, and it just feels cheaper than the iPhone SE, which is fully glass with aluminum siding. It's clearly made from better quality materials, and it has a more premium feel than the Galaxy A53 5G, which feels like your average budget Android device.
The A53 5G wins out when it comes to battery life because it offers almost double the capacity of the iPhone SE. The iPhone SE is, however, much, much faster than the A53 because it's using the same A15 chip that's in the iPhone 13. Samsung's smartphone is equipped with an Exynos 1280 chip that doesn't even come close to measuring up. Samsung does have the edge when it comes to storage, as the base model starts with 128GB and it can be expanded with an SD card slot (the iPhone SE starts at 64GB), plus it has more camera lenses.
Apple's iPhone SE has a single-lens 12-megapixel wide-angle rear camera, while the Galaxy S53 5G has a 64-megapixel wide-angle camera, an ultra wide lens, and a depth and macro sensor. Of course, more megapixels and more lenses does not equal better quality, and the iPhone SE has texture, detail, and HDR features powered by the A15 that set it apart.
Both phones have 5G and are equal in that department, and as for pricing, the Galaxy A53 5G is technically priced at $449, but it's available for $349 right now. That's cheaper than the iPhone SE, which is priced starting at $429.
Though the Galaxy A53 5G seems like the better phone right now, it's the A15 chip that makes the iPhone SE stand out. Apple will provide software updates, new features, and support for the iPhone SE for a good five to seven years, while Samsung is not going to support the A53 5G that long. The Galaxy A53 5G has a flashier set of features that may be immediately appealing, but those looking for a phone that's going to last for years to should check out the iPhone SE.
What do you think of the Galaxy A53 5G, do you prefer it to the iPhone SE? Let us know in the comments.
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Personally I'd opt for an iPhone 11 over an SE 3 2022 which carriers are still selling for around $300 for the 64GB model.
The A52 5G would also be good since it has a headphone jack, unlike the A53 5G.
Most tech sites and Youtubers suggest the iPhone 11 over the SE. In 2022, the SE is not a good phone. Even the 13 mini is suggested over the SE.
I haven't kept track of all the Android manufacturers, but it's good to hear that some of them are supporting phones for a reasonable amount of time. I've never understood the need to get a new phone so often.
You can keep a phone for years if you get a flagship phone. A phone such as the SE is already outdated from day one regardless of the A15 chip.
I barely use my phone most dats, its basically just an additional notification device for me 12+ hours a day, and music player/GPS when I'm out and about. I take the occasional video or photo (which it does perfectly adequately) and sometimes surf the web while I take a dump. The 12 is overkill, the 11 wont have the longevity or durability and I'm not switching to Android.
I use an ipad or desktop to do anything meaningful, I have a real camera if I want any more than "snaps".
Only outdated if it doesn't have the features YOU want.
IMHO, the IP11/12/13 are better media creation/consumption devices, whereas the SE2022 is a better phone.
Outdated.....
Fans deserve better than the new iPhone SE's dated design | Mixed Signals
The 2022 iPhone SE's design dates back to 2014's iPhone 6, so why has Apple decided to raise prices on what's meant to be its affordable iPhone?
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Keep citing random blog posts, it doesn't change the fact that this phone is perfect for a large number of customers who like touch ID and don't have any need (or desire) for edge to edge screens.Outdated.....
Fans deserve better than the new iPhone SE's dated design | Mixed Signals
The 2022 iPhone SE's design dates back to 2014's iPhone 6, so why has Apple decided to raise prices on what's meant to be its affordable iPhone?
You seem to just be pissed that Apple did not bring out the phone you wanted, at the price you wanted.
My primary phone is an iPhone 6s Plus which I adore. Until a month ago the only thing I was missing was the wireless charging.
I had also a second android phone very old with almost unusable battery. I decided to replace it with a medium range android phone and I chose Samsung A52s (350£ brand new from Samsung) which I believe is a better deal than A53 because it has a headphone jack and a snapdragon cpu. I would never buy A53 because it misses the headphone jack and I could easily find another better android phone without a headphone jack.
I did not have high expectations but to my surprise I use and enjoy more my Samsung phone. Great battery, amazing oled screen, two SIM card slots, it is very fast and the software is better than I thought.
Because of this unexpected pleasant experience I gave it a go and ordered a used Samsung Note Plus 5G for 320£ Because I would like to have a bigger screen and a stylus. I am not sure if I will keep the Note but for other reasons since it is used and the battery is not in such a good condition as I hoped. Surprisingly, the brand new A52s trade blows even with the 2 years old flagship Note!
I love the Touch ID and the headphone jack and I thought I could not live without an LCD screen but the Samsung changed my mind. I love the OLED screen and I even find it better than my wife’s iPhone 11 pro max screen.
The A52s is a surprisingly good phone, the A53 seems a step backward to me and the comparison with the iPhone SE in this article does not make any sense to me since in this case is not even a plus version but a smaller screen.
I will always need and use an iPhone, I am deep in the ecosystem too but now I am considering to have my iPhone as my second phone and the Samsung as my primary phone.
I always wanted an iPhone 6 Plus replacement with wireless charging more memory and a faster cpu but now I am not so sure if I want to pay decent money for an LCD screen.
I had also a second android phone very old with almost unusable battery. I decided to replace it with a medium range android phone and I chose Samsung A52s (350£ brand new from Samsung) which I believe is a better deal than A53 because it has a headphone jack and a snapdragon cpu. I would never buy A53 because it misses the headphone jack and I could easily find another better android phone without a headphone jack.
I did not have high expectations but to my surprise I use and enjoy more my Samsung phone. Great battery, amazing oled screen, two SIM card slots, it is very fast and the software is better than I thought.
Because of this unexpected pleasant experience I gave it a go and ordered a used Samsung Note Plus 5G for 320£ Because I would like to have a bigger screen and a stylus. I am not sure if I will keep the Note but for other reasons since it is used and the battery is not in such a good condition as I hoped. Surprisingly, the brand new A52s trade blows even with the 2 years old flagship Note!
I love the Touch ID and the headphone jack and I thought I could not live without an LCD screen but the Samsung changed my mind. I love the OLED screen and I even find it better than my wife’s iPhone 11 pro max screen.
The A52s is a surprisingly good phone, the A53 seems a step backward to me and the comparison with the iPhone SE in this article does not make any sense to me since in this case is not even a plus version but a smaller screen.
I will always need and use an iPhone, I am deep in the ecosystem too but now I am considering to have my iPhone as my second phone and the Samsung as my primary phone.
I always wanted an iPhone 6 Plus replacement with wireless charging more memory and a faster cpu but now I am not so sure if I want to pay decent money for an LCD screen.
I look at what I need and don't need very objectively. I don't rush into decisions about purchases lightly or based on emotions (with the exception of chocolate), and don't listen to people being paid to make headlines.
I also know that the iP11 / 12 /13 and certainly no android devices fit with what I need in a phone for a number of reasons.
A child would actually make use of an edge to edge screen for media consumption / gaming, I would not.
You're welcome to your opinion, but it's not for a non-existent demographic that spends $400 on a new phone every 2-3 years to jump to the latest chip.
It's for a demographic who has a 6-year-old iPhone 6S that now barely works and just want a new one. Most of them don't actually care that the new one has an A15 chip in it, but the new chip means that their new phone will be supported for a long time. Otherwise it would be a weird choice for Apple to put the same CPU as their top-of-the-line model in their ultra-budget phone--surely they could have gotten it to a much nicer-looking $399 by using an A13.
You don't need to believe that these people exist, but "nonsense" people who don't exist wouldn't be posting in this exact thread stating explicitly that they personally prefer the old form factor (for various reasons).
Here's an actual, living, breathing person that I know:
She's in her 70s and not technologically adept. At all. She's quite well-off and could easily afford any phone she wanted, every year if she wanted.
She had an iPhone 6. It broke a few years ago. She just wanted another one, but you couldn't just buy another one, so she ended up with an iPhone 8 and was satisfied because it worked the same. That 8 now has a cracked screen and is acting up, and she plans to replace it. When she does, she's going to get an SE 2022, and she'll be happy with it.
She's not buying it because it's cheap. She won't even look at the price tag. She's buying it because she doesn't have to learn anything new to use it. Heck, she doesn't even know the gestures available on the button-equipped form factor. She knows how to open the apps she needs and press the button to make them go away. That's sufficient for her, and she just wants to keep doing that.
Most change-averse people aren't as well off as my particular example--some are also quite price-sensitive--but there are a lot of older folks in the world who fall into that category.
with all of that being said, the SE is not meeting expectations.so Apple has slashed production. Feel free to spin it any way that you want. It still doesn't change the fact.
Would not say anyone. My sister kept her very old iPhone which was the same size I believe for 7 or 8 years. That SE will probably be her next phone if it still around in a few years as she prefer the small size. It's not because she is broke, she is a vp for some company and makes a very, very nice income.
Production has been slashed because there is very little demand. Feel free to spin it any way that you want. The facts still remains.
Not as much demand, and not necessarily due to the phone not being what everyone wanted (The primary reason is also cited in some of many blog articles).
Recap? 32million iPhones were sold in Russia in 2021 - its a massive marketshare thats been completely cut off and almost mirrors the "slash". Factor in the uncertainly with Chinese spending while there are ongoing citywide lockdowns and it makes perfect sense to reduce the orders by at least a fifth.
You keep saying this phone is a fail, when its mostly just global circumstance dictating the order reduction.
Your point is moot and makes no sense because they INCREASED 13 PRODUCTION. SE was slashed because it's a flop.So to make thing simple, the higher priced phones are selling better than the cheaper one.
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What you need to know
- Apple is said to have been surprised by the lack of demand for smaller iPhones, causing iPhone 13 mini to be the last such device.
- Apple is now reducing its orders of iPhone SE devices as a result of lower than expected demand.
- Increased iPhone 13 orders are being made.
Analyst says Apple is increasing iPhone 13, slashing iPhone SE production to meet demand
Apple is reportedly slashing its iPhone SE orders in an attempt to deal with unexpectedly low demand, according to a report. The company is said to be increasing iPhone 13 orders as a result.
www.imore.com
The A53 will get updates for 4 years. The SE will get longer updates, sure, but during that 4 years, users of the A53 will probably enjoy their phones more thanks to the larger OLED screen, better battery life, and dual lens camera, while also saving $200 from their wallet, vs the SE's smaller LCD screen, weaker battery, and single lens camera, and being $200 more.
That's not saying the SE won't sell. People looking for an iPhone will get an iPhone regardless. The SE top selling point is simply the Apple logo on its back.
Dude... could you just step out of the echo chamber for a second? You keep repeating the same opinions over and over again, to the point where now more than half of your entire activity in this forum is represented within this one thread. Haven't you figured out yet that you're not going to change anybody's mind on this? Let alone affect Apple's manufacturing plans.
Just answer me this: Why on earth does the very existence of the SE3 bother you so much? Why is it such a big deal to you?
It's just a phone.
Sometimes you have people who can't accept the truth, so you have to beat it into their head through repetition.