I DO backup my stuff. Multiple times, in fact. The problem is that a service of this significance used by this many people should NOT fail like this. At least for Dropbox and OneDrive, there's recycle bin where you can presumably find files that are deleted. With iCloud, once your documents are gone, they're just gone. That's horrendous design, in my opinion.
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Bug in iOS 8's 'Reset All Settings' Option Also Erases iCloud Drive Documents
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I DO backup my stuff. Multiple times, in fact. The problem is that a service of this significance used by this many people should NOT fail like this. At least for Dropbox and OneDrive, there's recycle bin where you can presumably find files that are deleted. With iCloud, once your documents are gone, they're just gone. That's horrendous design, in my opinion.
What really pisses me off about BS like "bend-gate" is that it steals attention from the real issues people should be getting on Apple about like this. So many people whine and complain about the little stuff that's either not true, not worth whining about, or just flat out trivial. Apple's cloud issues provide so much more cause for concern than dumb people sitting on their iPhones and wanting to blame someone else for their stupid decision.
what? I thought if you turn off iCloud on your mac it just deletes everything from your mac and not iCloud. Since when and why does it now delete everything from iCloud and why would it delete everything from the origin? If it's deleting the original data then how are we to use iCloud for syncing to any new devices?
It feels weird to say it, and it's not to say that I fully trust Microsoft either, but I trust them more than Google, that's for damn sure. I'm a loyal Dropbox user though for most things, though I use iCloud as well, though I'm only comfortable doing so due to having two Macs that both have their own separate Time Machine backups that cover my important iCloud documents.
But that is not a good solution for the "Post-PC" era.
Looking at trend in iOS issues last few months, I tend to agree. I have been using google drive since it was launched. I thought of transition to iCloud so that i can have smooth access to documents across all devices and mac.
But as you put it right, I will stick to google for now.
This is why I didn't rush to get to iCloud Drive.
Staying with Dropbox for the foreseeable future. It has never failed me in many years at this point.
And this bug sucks for many people because of the Bluetooth issue. The way to fix it is to use "Reset All Settings." Thank God I never enabled iCloud Drive yet.
Staying with Dropbox for the foreseeable future. It has never failed me in many years at this point.
And this bug sucks for many people because of the Bluetooth issue. The way to fix it is to use "Reset All Settings." Thank God I never enabled iCloud Drive yet.
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Oooooh Noooooo!!!!!!
I don't use iWork a lot but I got some documents in there. I just remembered 2 days ago I did reset my iPhone 5 because the night before was updated to 8.02. While at work most of my non-Apple stock apps starts acting weird and when I start the apps it just quit and sometimes just white blank. When I got home what I did first reset my iPhone it didn't solve the problem. I also downgraded to 8.0 still did't work, and then upgraded to 8.02 again still didn't work. Finally did the restore and everything works just fine. Now that I read this article decided to look at my documents and they're all gone. I thought iCloud is the safest place to save my documents. I was wrong I don't know what Apple would do to my documents. Are they permanently gone or Apple would be able to restore them. If there's a news worthy to talk about all over the web or just a tv news. Then this is it worst than bend gate or antenna gate, people losing something valuable and irreplaceable unlike the hardware.
I don't use iWork a lot but I got some documents in there. I just remembered 2 days ago I did reset my iPhone 5 because the night before was updated to 8.02. While at work most of my non-Apple stock apps starts acting weird and when I start the apps it just quit and sometimes just white blank. When I got home what I did first reset my iPhone it didn't solve the problem. I also downgraded to 8.0 still did't work, and then upgraded to 8.02 again still didn't work. Finally did the restore and everything works just fine. Now that I read this article decided to look at my documents and they're all gone. I thought iCloud is the safest place to save my documents. I was wrong I don't know what Apple would do to my documents. Are they permanently gone or Apple would be able to restore them. If there's a news worthy to talk about all over the web or just a tv news. Then this is it worst than bend gate or antenna gate, people losing something valuable and irreplaceable unlike the hardware.
You mean you don't have a backup of the documents? You saved them to Apple's servers and figured they were safe?
Wow. Just wow.
I agree. People who misuse you're and your should be allowed only one post per day.
And people who do the "you're [doing something] wrong" meme should be suspended for a week. Just for being lame.
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Bill Gates hasn't been Microsoft CEO since 2000. That's over 15years. It may be time to disassociate him with that position and join us in the twenty-teens...just saying.
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All my naked photos that I had stored in iCloud are missing!! At least, I will now be able sleep peacefully at night without having to worry about hackers stealing my treasured nude selfies and sex pics and posting them all over the internet. Finally some progress at Apple!
Not to mention the po-po and all the President's men!
I guess I was affected by this. I purchased an iPhone 6+ that I reset and returned.
All of my notes from college are gone. Last time I trust the cloud.
Is this stuff stored in Time Machine?
All of my notes from college are gone. Last time I trust the cloud.
Is this stuff stored in Time Machine?
OMG, ResetGate!!! :O
Right after BendGate, WilliamsGate and CellGate!!!
Poor Steve Jobs. He would never have allowed this!!!
MobileMe, at activation crashing nationally when the West Coast started selling the 3G, the iPhone 4 leak, antennagate, ping. All on his watch. So don't act like he was some mistake free God. He wasn't
Could it be?
I am wondering that this is not a misunderstanding. I switched back to the iPhone and got a iPhone 6 and I remember their being a warning about iCloud settings being chosen when setting up my iPhone 6. It has something to do with "upgrading" my icloud, and that if I did so that files might not be accessible on all devices.
What I am betting is that the "default" is to not use the upgraded drive or the opposite of whatever the guy in the OP had.
So I bet going into the icloud settings and tinkering with them, or doing a factory reset on the device and setting it up again will show the documents again.
I am wondering that this is not a misunderstanding. I switched back to the iPhone and got a iPhone 6 and I remember their being a warning about iCloud settings being chosen when setting up my iPhone 6. It has something to do with "upgrading" my icloud, and that if I did so that files might not be accessible on all devices.
What I am betting is that the "default" is to not use the upgraded drive or the opposite of whatever the guy in the OP had.
So I bet going into the icloud settings and tinkering with them, or doing a factory reset on the device and setting it up again will show the documents again.
Got a replacement phone and it deleted all my files in Filer. nothing too important just the adult entertainment. Haha.
Yes but it's 2014. You can't trust anything with your data. That's why you keep an extra backup.
Don't have the patience
Hi,
I don't have the patience to read through over four hundred messages. Use Dropbox! Never had a problem with them. Since I moved a few very simple spreadsheets to the cloud I constantly have to deal with inconsistent versions. This is for very minor changes. I really scratch my head about those messages. I am really thinking about moving those files back to Dropbos where I never had a synchronization issue.
PS: I don't have any financial interest on promoting Dropbox. Perhaps some other similar services are as good as this one. However, I am just saying that I have just had issues since I moved these files to iCloud. I never had issues before. Pretty straightforward. I just modify the file, save it, go to another computer, wait to sync and that's it. Latest version available. It seems that some Apple engineers lack this easy concept. Before you think I am a troll. I am a long time Mac user, iMac, Mac Pro, iPad, iPod, iPhone, etc.
Thanks
Hi,
I don't have the patience to read through over four hundred messages. Use Dropbox! Never had a problem with them. Since I moved a few very simple spreadsheets to the cloud I constantly have to deal with inconsistent versions. This is for very minor changes. I really scratch my head about those messages. I am really thinking about moving those files back to Dropbos where I never had a synchronization issue.
PS: I don't have any financial interest on promoting Dropbox. Perhaps some other similar services are as good as this one. However, I am just saying that I have just had issues since I moved these files to iCloud. I never had issues before. Pretty straightforward. I just modify the file, save it, go to another computer, wait to sync and that's it. Latest version available. It seems that some Apple engineers lack this easy concept. Before you think I am a troll. I am a long time Mac user, iMac, Mac Pro, iPad, iPod, iPhone, etc.
Thanks
I'd love to hear how a user like myself who strictly uses an iPad and iPhone for all iWork documents can create a backup of iCloud documents.
Jesus. This bug, ALL of the bugs in ios 8, icloud goes down today, and now this...?
Come on Apple. testing for this sort of software glitch is very rudimentary stuff...I love Apple and I have defended iOS 8 vociferously but I am really starting to get sick of this instability.
Come on Apple. testing for this sort of software glitch is very rudimentary stuff...I love Apple and I have defended iOS 8 vociferously but I am really starting to get sick of this instability.
told ya
And this is why the "cloud" idea is the stupidest idea mankind has come up with in the last century. It's neither safe nor reliable. Doesn't matter who the provider is.
Cloud service are nice as a temporary transport for information, but that's all. Your data is only safe in your own hands - maintain, backup, secure it.
Creating an ecosystem that is *dependent* on the "cloud" is fraught with danger, as so many have just learned.
And this is why the "cloud" idea is the stupidest idea mankind has come up with in the last century. It's neither safe nor reliable. Doesn't matter who the provider is.
Cloud service are nice as a temporary transport for information, but that's all. Your data is only safe in your own hands - maintain, backup, secure it.
Creating an ecosystem that is *dependent* on the "cloud" is fraught with danger, as so many have just learned.
What next after this.With all the bugs and lack quality checking, people will be very scared using the payment system when it rolls out...
I think it's a disaster. We're in agreement on that. I was just giving a good natured reminder that comparing software releases before, during and after Forstall's tenure doesn't really imply Forstall was the reason for the distinctions. I should have put an emoticon there to indicate a smile.
I'm trying to find a causal link between Forstall and iOS success/failure, and I'm hoping that one of the people who keep coming to his defense knows something about how he operated in the company-- because I don't. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just making sure I'm not selling Forstall short based on media reports when I shouldn't be. If he's the reason, there's something to learn here.
The problem with relying on correlation is you can fall victim to confounding variables. For example, there is significant overlap between changes in Forstall's influence and that of other prominent executives at Apple. He arrived with Jobs, for example, so was the transition from "before" Forstall to "during" Forstall because of Forstall or Jobs or some combination of other NeXT employees that tagged along.
Forstall didn't stay around past Job's death and the year in between included the Maps debacle. So was the transition from "during" Forstall to "after" Forstall because of Forstall, the loss of Jobs, the rise of Ive and Cook, general mourning and malaise within the company after losing Jobs, or some other combination of factors?
Is it all just a matter of iOS getting increasingly complicated and crufty, and therefore more difficult for anyone to manage and therefore caused by time and not people?
Did Forstall's departure make room for the critical QA manager to get promoted from their role leaving the job to a less qualified person-- meaning Forstall's presence didn't make the difference, but his departure started a series of events that led to iOS8?