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Buying PowerPC Macs In 2012
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If I'm "wrong" then point out how. Lets please get a technical description of how I am wrong and how a single G5 will be faster. Show us how much you really know.. here is your perfect chance.
Before this gets out of hand again.
I said, downstairs, the family computer is a dual 1.25 with 2gb RAM & two 80gb hard drives, running Tiger. To be completely honest, it outperforms my single 1.6 G5 running Leopard. Not by much, but by a noticeable margin (If the G5 was running Tiger or vice versa the outcome may be different.) I got the G5 for the reason of having one
and even though it's not the fastest, it's still a nice system. But all in all, the dual 1.25 seems quicker.
Now stop arguing.
I said, downstairs, the family computer is a dual 1.25 with 2gb RAM & two 80gb hard drives, running Tiger. To be completely honest, it outperforms my single 1.6 G5 running Leopard. Not by much, but by a noticeable margin (If the G5 was running Tiger or vice versa the outcome may be different.) I got the G5 for the reason of having one
and even though it's not the fastest, it's still a nice system. But all in all, the dual 1.25 seems quicker.Now stop arguing.
I am not arguing at all. Anthony loves to invent facts out of thin air and I was simply correcting him so that others are not mislead by his incorrect claims. He constantly claims to know things about computers he has never used and since the goal of this forum is not incorrect or invented facts I felt the need to point out what I did.
I work with and work on G5's every single week and he knows this yet tries to claim better knowledge than I? You see my point here? Anything I say against him are valid retorts and not insults.
I have no personal vendetta against him at all. Truth is truth.
I work with and work on G5's every single week and he knows this yet tries to claim better knowledge than I? You see my point here? Anything I say against him are valid retorts and not insults.
I have no personal vendetta against him at all. Truth is truth.
I said, downstairs, the family computer is a dual 1.25 with 2gb RAM & two 80gb hard drives, running Tiger. To be completely honest, it outperforms my single 1.6 G5 running Leopard. Not by much, but by a noticeable margin (If the G5 was running Tiger or vice versa the outcome may be different.) I got the G5 for the reason of having one
Your single 1.6 G5 is certainly a big boost over the single 867 G4 in your PBG4. It's also one of the more reliable G5 towers. If you really wanted a G5 then thats a valid reason to get one and it's still a great upgrade over your PB.
I was just pointing out you chose the slower one since you mentioned earlier that you chose it over a dual 1.42 MDD. As you know now from actual real world experience that is indeed the case as you claim yourself.
What's going wrong here that we need a thread lock and you've been a bad boy/girl PM?
We don't need a thread lock. This is one of the more informative powerpc threads we have had. We have had some drama sure but we need some good hard discussion and we are getting some. Some folks may assume that because its a g5 and its newer than the g4 then automatically its faster. I for one am happy to be able to discuss the old g4's and 5's. Thats just my two pennies.....
I get the feeling that most G5 Power Macs that remain working today are reliable enough, if their capacitors were going to blow then they would have ages ago.
Anyway, I agree that a single 1.6GHz G5 will be molested by a dual 1.42 MDD, though I'd have a hard time believing that any G4 could outperform my dual 1.8 G5 (not that I have any experience with a nicely upgraded G4, though I hope to change that later this year)
Anyway, I agree that a single 1.6GHz G5 will be molested by a dual 1.42 MDD, though I'd have a hard time believing that any G4 could outperform my dual 1.8 G5 (not that I have any experience with a nicely upgraded G4, though I hope to change that later this year
)Well after playing around with my old G5 from work that was given to me. I am going to turn it into a Hackintosh i5. PowerPC is dead, I can't even use this beautiful Mac as a media center for HD.
I look forward to the project.
Dude, how come you can't use it as a media center????
What are specs?
If my G4 plays 1080p, I don't see why you should dump your computer instead of using it as a media center.
If you're using quicktime or itunes.... OK... this just won't work. Get VLC and/or CorePlayer depending on computer specs.
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I have an MDD and I have to say I totally agree with zen on this one. To say a single 1.6 ghz G5 is better than an MDD and to say an MDD is worse than an iPad is bul*******. I tried an iPad this week. I've seen loads of benchs and the single G5 just cant cut it vs the dual MDD.
OK how about you guys Geekbench your computers and post screenshots.
Pics or it didn't happen
So let me see if I understand.. you state that you know a G5 1.6 will be slower yet now you want proof? So you doubt your own opinion?
No, it's more for the benefit of the haters. i.e. the people who think the single 1.6 G5 is faster than a fast dual G4
The geekbench site is full of peoples benchmarks from thousands of systems. A single 1.6GHz scores in the low 900's. A dual 1.42 MDD is in the mid 1200's.
In real world use the difference is even bigger than the numbers. Those massively high bus speeds in G5's simply don't translate into much actual real world gain.
I saw some silly high g4 geekbenches and some that were oddly disappointing. Single 7448's 2.0 scoring about 1070 then some 1.8 dual 7447a's scoring high 1400s. G5 systems are only 100 to 150 points higher than the 7447a's. Thats clock for clock. I can totally see why you are a G4ite Zen.state. All I can say is wow.
Geekbench is alright but it often doesn't really show real world performance as it just runs a few different tasks on only the CPU and RAM. My single 1.8GHz 7448 scores 1127-1178 but this is mostly the 100MHz bus and memory to blame. A dual 1.42 MDD scores about 100 higher but in the real world I find my Sawtooth a tad faster.
The dual 7447's getting up in the 1400's certainly doesn't relate to running normal apps as they get trounced by the 7455 and 7448. Even the 7400 had more performance per MHz than the 7447 but it just doesn't go up high enough to compete with it. I often refer to the 7447 as the Celeron of the G4's.
But yes when it comes to early G5's any 7455 or 7448 can compete with or surpass. Later G5's like the dual 2.3 and up are much better performers.
This is amazing, I hope to be able to do something similar on my G5 when I get it in. Just won a bidding on one yesterday for 130 dollars.
2.0 GHz Dual Processor
2 GB RAM
160 GB Hard Drive
Not sure what else, just OS 10.3 is loaded on it.
I'm also in the process of buying a G5! But I will have to pay quite a lot more (a bit over $250 I believe), but that's how it is over here.
The specs I know of are dual 2 GHz, 4GB RAM, 2 TB hard drive, a SuperDrive and ATI Radeon 9600 XT. I know nothing about graphics cards but I guess anything is better than the best I have at home at the moment (which is ATI Rage 128 Pro).
The specs I know of are dual 2 GHz, 4GB RAM, 2 TB hard drive, a SuperDrive and ATI Radeon 9600 XT. I know nothing about graphics cards but I guess anything is better than the best I have at home at the moment (which is ATI Rage 128 Pro
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Even while as good as that is, it appears to be a bit flawed. No web pages loaded, no Adobe apps... and games that are like 7 - 8 years old from the date the video was uploaded... well, WoW is 2004 but it's hardly a taxing game.
I never knew as long as you get a Broadcom adapter it's airport ready. Anyone know any good USB WiFi N adapters thats Broadcom?
Kind of agree, although UT2004 (when playing with actual bots) maxes out one of my 1.8GHz G5 CPUs.
You can find some one eBay for $5-20, depending on if you want 150Mbps or 300Mbps, although they're Ralink chipsets. Ralink's site has OS X drivers. I've recently ordered one myself so I'll see how it goes.
For what its worth here is what I have experienced:
I have a PowerMac G4 450 MHz DP which is noticeably faster than my Quicksilver G4 733 MHz. Although the Quicksilver has faster (133MHz) Bus and faster Graphics card, when both systems are running Tiger, the G4 450MHz DP IS FASTER.
So I do believe that any PowerMac with single processor G5 can be underpowered compered to any high end DP MDD.
Just my thoughts....
Sure but from my experience, you couldn't do that with a Pentium 4 of the same vintage. Not from my experiences anyways.