PPC is also an advertising method and a shooting sport. It's all about the context. If someone says "I bought a PPC mac!" it's kind of obvious what he/she meant, no?
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Buying PowerPC Macs In 2012
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PPC is also an advertising method and a shooting sport. It's all about the context. If someone says "I bought a PPC mac!" it's kind of obvious what he/she meant, no?
There's an application called CorePlayer. It's very very VERY well optimised for PPC Macs, I never wanted to get it myself because it cost $20 and I couldn't find any... trial... copies floating around online, but today I finally decided to give it a go, and it's AMAZING. Seriously, it's incredible how much more it can handle than VLC. Only problem is that the interface sucks.
Unfortunately, other peoples day to day activities are a lot more demanding than yours. If you're fine with an eMac as your main machine, more power to you, nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But these "Bells and Whistles" are honestly must have features for a lot of people. And there's nothing wrong with people wanting the latest and greatest. Why should people have to get along fine/settle for less when they have other, better options? That's what's great about computing, you upgrade on your schedule. I'm sure many people will be hanging onto their Pentium 4 and G5 machines for a few more years, while other will move on to the latest and greatest, either just because they can, or because they need the features the latest and greatest brings. And there's nothing that should be "sickening" about that. I also doubt that people "throw away" their working machines. Most of the people I know either sell them or keep them as a secondary machine. Even for people who upgrade every year or two, throwing away perfectly good machines is a lot for most people to swallow. I upgrade every 2-3 years because I have to for the things I do and because I have to be at least semi up to date for what I do.
Why dont you give it a try. They have downloads.
Thanks. I was on the Euro site which had less details.
Try VLC 2.0. MPlayer OSX Extended is another good one but I've really moved onto VLC since it's re-haul for it's UI.
This should be reported then. After all, it is a hanging offense.
I have a 12" Powerbook G4 1.5ghz and it works fine. It may not do some things a brand new computer could, but it does enough. As long as it does what YOU need it to, that's all that matters.
Other than use the app store, what can I not do on my G5 that I can do on my Mac Pro and assorted MacBooks running the various flavors of OSX from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion DP2. There thing I can think of is use the latest xCode.
Can someone advise if following is possible on PowerPC machines:
- Use iCloud
- Photo Stream
- is iLife 08 the highest supported version?
- Use iCloud
- Photo Stream
- is iLife 08 the highest supported version?
Again and again,almost all those questions answered in the faq on my sig and with a search on this forum.
The latest ilife supported is 09.
Gotta say I agree with this, big time.
I think if you can use PowerPC as your main rig for every day stuff, I think its great. More power to you. But for most users, they need something new.
And don't even go off on my about how I hate PowerPC, I am new to Mac, I got my G5 for a great price and I LOVE IT. But if I could have ONE computer, I'd take a 500 dollar Windows machine over it any day. Not because of hardware, I think G5's can still hold their own, but just for support. Because I've been looking around a ton, and I just don't see it for PPC.
I'd take an old mac over any 500 dollar windows box simply because I can buy all the old software I need to do the jobs I need to do. But I can't fix windows. I know windows is way better nowdays. I still would rather not though thanks. Just my two pennies.....
I wouldn't leave OSX for a $500 windows box..
I think that most users need something less than powerPC. Most users would be good with an iPad.
Exactly. I know I'm just stuck in the past, with what I know and like. But at this point, I can't really see most people needing something more than what PPC can still offer.
My G5 Quad doesn't so much as hiccup on anything I do every day. I'm running two 1920x1080 displays, one of which is running a DVD right now and my Quad is still running completely smooth. My Quad may be "outdated" but I'm not gonna upgrade until I absolutely have to.
See I'm kinda the same way. I'm considering upgrading to a faster G5 if I can find one I can afford. Maybe a 2.7 G5 hmmm....
Finally someone said it. Totally agree!
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The latest iPad has the equivalent raw proessing power of a dual 867Mhz G4 MDD.
Well for what its worth I've tried the newest iPad this week and I've owned a dual 867mhz G4 MDD last year (mine, before I upgraded it). The MDD totally runs circles around the iPad. The iPad is a very slow machine if you compare it to a "real" computer. It just has way more eye-candy...
The latest iPad has the equivalent raw proessing power of a dual 867Mhz G4 MDD.
you missed my point completely..
most users for most task's won't tax any computer until I rip and transcode a movie I don't need the power afforded to me by my G5 let alone the MP or MBP. Surfing the web the G5 rarely goes above 10% cpu usage that's with multiple 3 instances of Safari, with 4 or 5 tabs per instance. Currently it's bouncing between .48 and 4.97 percent cpu usage.
Computers in the last 5 years have gotten so powerful that most users will never max out their capabilities..OS in the last 5 years have gotten so resource hungry you'd never know it..My G5 feels like my MBP and MP for general usage. For example, if I'm playing with a family photo in raw (PS CS4) on the G5 I can go through 4 GB or RAM if I try. In MBP with lion I can go through 4GB of RAM with the Mail, Safari, and Evernote. If I open the same photo with CS5 on MBP I'll go through all 8GB and start to swap doing the same thing. The G5 will use half it's available RAM and the MBP will take it all and need more.
People are not doing more programmers are using HP instead of finesse to get the same job done. It's sad really, people think they need to upgrade because the geek can't remember how it was when the HP wasn't there.
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So what are you saying Chris?? Its all about the software and how well its written??? :GASP:
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Well for what its worth I've tried the newest iPad this week and I've owned a dual 867mhz G4 MDD last year (mine, before I upgraded it). The MDD totally runs circles around the iPad. The iPad is a very slow machine if you compare it to a "real" computer. It just has way more eye-candy...[/QUOTE]
A lot of people are delaying their personal computer upgrade in favor of buying the latest smartphone or tablet. So it really depends on what the definition of "slow" means. Touch based computing is different than mouse driven and a lot of computing speed is not only computer raw power based, but rather on how much friction is there on the user interface. Touch based interface presents much less friction than mouse driven, which is the reason why many people are buying these tablets. Not only it is eye candy, it is functional.
I have an iPad 1 and I never thought I would do some basic photo manipulation with Photogene and Camera Bag which I would traditionally do with Aperture and Photoshop. I also do word processing and spreadsheet with both Pages and Numbers and use Notetaker HD for taking notes with a stylus. For reading news, I use Zite and Flipboard. The amount of time I would need to find and pool all the news into one presentable interface manually would take longer and slower than what an iPad can do. I would like a new iPad, but I want the one that is faster on the CPU side that currently selling.
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Well for what its worth I've tried the newest iPad this week and I've owned a dual 867mhz G4 MDD last year (mine, before I upgraded it). The MDD totally runs circles around the iPad. The iPad is a very slow machine if you compare it to a "real" computer. It just has way more eye-candy...[/QUOTE]
A lot of people are delaying their personal computer upgrade in favor of buying the latest smartphone or tablet. So it really depends on what the definition of "slow" means. Touch based computing is different than mouse driven and a lot of computing speed is not only computer raw power based, but rather on how much friction is there on the user interface. Touch based interface presents much less friction than mouse driven, which is the reason why many people are buying these tablets. Not only it is eye candy, it is functional.
I have an iPad 1 and I never thought I would do some basic photo manipulation with Photogene and Camera Bag which I would traditionally do with Aperture and Photoshop. I also do word processing and spreadsheet with both Pages and Numbers and use Notetaker HD for taking notes with a stylus. For reading news, I use Zite and Flipboard. The amount of time I would need to find and pool all the news into one presentable interface manually would take longer and slower than what an iPad can do. I would like a new iPad, but I want the one that is faster on the CPU side that currently selling.
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Easy on me Chris.
I agree that software is what dictates people needs with their computers.
But traditional computers are a dying breed. If you look at YOY sales for computers, they virtually remained flat. The reason they haven't nosedived was because of yearly speed bumps and improvements on the CPU front. There is no reason for most people to be keeping up with the Jones so to speak. And with the poor economic and money being tight across the board, people stop to ask, what am I doing with my computer.
However, I do not agree with you that most people are not using the horsepower their machines are capable of, unless they are not taking digital photos and digital videos and editing them or batch process them. Not all software are created either. Some software have their inherit intrinsic friction to work with legacy OS and platform (32bit vs 64bit), but others are basically sloppy programming of not taking advantage of the multi-cores. Faster machines help cut down the time batch processing hundreds of RAW images and 720p or 1080p AVCHD videos and that's what my Quad Core Windows PC and Mac do. I deal with many clients (institution as well as normal folks) and they always ask me, which computer is the fastest to process their unique digital media requirements. Sometimes, you need an Octo-core Mac Pro, sometimes a Core i5 or i7. I no longer recommend a PowerPC G5, because even a normal Joe or Jane would be well served with the fastest Sandy Bridge or soon Ivy bridge can offer. It is digital media and their importance in the cloud is what drives the current need for faster computing to dwell with the media and tablets to reduce the friction of the user interface that makes a mouse passe. This is similar to when a mouse interface was replacing the CLI (Command Line Interface) of the old DOS or Pro-DOS on the Apple II era.
I am the same way. My quad has 10.5GB of RAM and a Radeon X1900 graphics card and I really don't feel like I need any more than this. If it weren't for dwindling software support, I don't see any reason why I would replace this system anytime soon. I have a feeling this thing still has lots of life left in the hardware. Its a shame such a fantastic system really had its "life" cut short by Apple at least in comparison to how long lots of G3 and G4 systems remained supported. (think Blue and White G3 being supported from Mac OS 8.5 clear through 10.4.11).