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Buying PowerPC Macs In 2012

LeoTheLion89 said:
i beileve its a single it dont say it isnt
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Even 480p can sometimes be a little choppy on my dual G4 when streaming with Flash. I suspect that 240p and 320p will be fine and 480p will be somewhere between watchable to fine in Flash. Of course, the better YouTube experience would be with MacTubes set to QuickTime.

A 9600XT is plenty for 2D video. It's not the video card that'll be holding you back.

Unless you're getting a great deal, I'd hold out for a dual CPU machine.
 
ThunderSnake said:
Even 480p can sometimes be a little choppy on my dual G4 when streaming with Flash. I suspect that 240p and 320p will be fine and 480p will be somewhere between watchable to fine in Flash. Of course, the better YouTube experience would be with MacTubes set to QuickTime.

A 9600XT is plenty for 2D video. It's not the video card that'll be holding you back.

Unless you're getting a great deal, I'd hold out for a dual CPU machine.
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I noticed at least with Youtube, on Mac Tubes, if you change the setting to Quicktime, you get massive better performance.

Thats the problem with PPC G5s Imo, no decent video cards out there.
 
G51989 said:
I noticed at least with Youtube, on Mac Tubes, if you change the setting to Quicktime, you get massive better performance.

Thats the problem with PPC G5s Imo, no decent video cards out there.
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The 7800 gs is a good vid card. You will get enough performance for any ppc games. Or maybe you can track down Bliss and flash it and have a 20 pipe vid card with 512 mb of vid ram.
 
ThunderSnake said:
Even 480p can sometimes be a little choppy on my dual G4 when streaming with Flash. I suspect that 240p and 320p will be fine and 480p will be somewhere between watchable to fine in Flash. Of course, the better YouTube experience would be with MacTubes set to QuickTime.

A 9600XT is plenty for 2D video. It's not the video card that'll be holding you back.

Unless you're getting a great deal, I'd hold out for a dual CPU machine.
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around 50 bucks free shipping
 
LeoTheLion89 said:
around 50 bucks free shipping
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That's a great deal. You'll be able to do a lot with it. Frankly, I never have any desire to stream YouTube in HD even when I'm on a machine that's capable of it. It ties up too much bandwidth.

Playing from local drives, you should be able to play 720p by tweaking some settings in VLC or with CorePlayer.
 
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All of my PPC macs are gone. I stopped buying them because I like to have all the updates to everything and can't do that with PPC anymore. RIP PPC you served me well over the years.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
True, but the early (pre 7.5.3) versions were very fast performers on contemporary 68k machines. Later versions suffered from feature creep.

I had (still have actually) a Quadra 610, and it ran fastest with 7.1.x.
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7.X was fast, but it was built with duct tape and toothpicks. System 7's issues were what first lead to Apple deciding that Mac OS was unsustainable and lead to the Copland project.

Copland failed but at least Mac OS 8 borrowed some components from it while Apple was buying time to work on OS X.

If you're looking for speed actually on a PowerPC Mac, System 7 is not a good choice because of the lack of PowerPC native code. On the flipside, System 8 can drag on a 68k.
 
ThunderSnake said:
That's a great deal. You'll be able to do a lot with it. Frankly, I never have any desire to stream YouTube in HD even when I'm on a machine that's capable of it. It ties up too much bandwidth.

Playing from local drives, you should be able to play 720p by tweaking some settings in VLC or with CorePlayer.
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i never play YouTube above 480p even my quadcore windows 7 cant handle it itll skip all i want is to know i can watch videos ON youtube above 280p
 
is a 450MHz G4 Cube worth it? will LeopardAssist let me run Leo? how well would Leo run on 450MHz?
 
LeoTheLion89 said:
is a 450MHz G4 Cube worth it? will LeopardAssist let me run Leo? how well would Leo run on 450MHz?
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A Cube is a collectors item now really, they're very underpowered and overpriced if you're thinking of using it on a daily basis to do pretty heavy tasks and run Leopard.

Go with the $50 G5, or if that's gone, maybe look at some MDD's, IMO they have the best bang for buck.
 
goMac said:
7.X was fast, but it was built with duct tape and toothpicks. System 7's issues were what first lead to Apple deciding that Mac OS was unsustainable and lead to the Copland project.

Copland failed but at least Mac OS 8 borrowed some components from it while Apple was buying time to work on OS X.

If you're looking for speed actually on a PowerPC Mac, System 7 is not a good choice because of the lack of PowerPC native code. On the flipside, System 8 can drag on a 68k.
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I agree. If I decided to run my IIci or Quadra 610 again I'd start with 7.1.x, and maybe move to 7.5.3. But with my 6100 I'd use 8.1 or better.

On the Quadra, and with the applications I ran back in the 90s (basic stuff), 7.1.x was fastest.
 
I watched most of that video and really, I think the value of PowerPC Macs is what they are worth to you. It's like my iMac G4, its almost 9 years old but it makes a great secondary machine, the only problem it has is with sites like youtube, etc (but thats expected). I didn't buy the machine thinking that I could do everything on it that I could do on my MacBook, I bought the machine knowing and fully understanding its limitations.

Yes, software support is getting extremely limited now, but at the current time these machines are still recent enough that they can do most things that the average user would need them to do. G4's can run Office 2008 (which has .docx/ .xlsx compatibility), run iLife '06, browse the internet, etc. Obviously its not going to be as fast as a new Intel Core i7 iMac, but it gets the job done.
 
i got the AirPort Exteme card for my eMac today and i had a questions the APE card uses the Broadcom 43xx chipset so my question is my Compaq laptop has a B43xx chipset same chipset so how come when i hackintosh install Leopard on my laptop the wifi wont work? its obvious that OS X has native broadcom support.
 
LeoTheLion89 said:
i got the AirPort Exteme card for my eMac today and i had a questions the APE card uses the Broadcom 43xx chipset so my question is my Compaq laptop has a B43xx chipset same chipset so how come when i hackintosh install Leopard on my laptop the wifi wont work? its obvious that OS X has native broadcom support.
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The Broadcom 43XX chipset doesn't have firmware on the card itself. The firmware has to be loaded from the OS. Mac OS X allows a very limited range of cards to work. These cards are limited by the maker ID and the product ID on the card itself.
 
Intell said:
The Broadcom 43XX chipset doesn't have firmware on the card itself. The firmware has to be loaded from the OS. Mac OS X allows a very limited range of cards to work. These cards are limited by the maker ID and the product ID on the card itself.
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so can i modify a ktext file to add the maker and product IDs to OS X?
 
LeoTheLion89 said:
so can i modify a ktext file to add the maker and product IDs to OS X?
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I'm not sure as I am not much of a hackintosher, but I think that is one way. The other more common way is to use an EFI string to change it in the ram so the system sees it as an Apple one. The last way is not done very often and can lead to problems, but it involves reflashing the card with new values.
 
G51989 said:
PS: Maybe I'm out of touch, or don't know enough about Macs, but I see alot of people using G4's and G3s in here, do they have enough power to do modern tasks?
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The dual 1.42 ghz G4 MDD in my sig is faster on some tasks than a 2012 MacBook Pro. Thats because of the SSD as boot drive. It compensates a lot for the lack of ram. That 2 GB feels like a lot, lot more. For example, photoshop CS4 opens instantly. My graphics card isn't bad too... Nvidia 7800 GS 256 MB. I can play HD movies on my computer. I even watch youtube in HD streaming. Bet you'd call this a modern task?... I have 96 khz audio surround output, too, cause of my PCI audio card. My computer is like the "monster G4" on the video, but faster.

Of course not all G4s are like that... mine is probably more like a G5 in terms of power... G4s are still good machines though. G3s are too old, thats for sure.
 
does anyone know how to make a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy SE, Linksys WMP54g Wireless PCI (RT61 chipset) and a ATI Radeon 9550 work on a hackintosh? i have instailled the Radeon 9550 and 9600 ktexts on OS X but the graphics are stuck at 1024x768 problem is i have a 19" monitor with 1280x1024 resolution.
 
Its kinda funny to me how many people ask how a g5 or g4 tower plays you tube videos. Kinda like thats the measuring stick for how out dated your hardware is.
 
LeoTheLion89 said:
does anyone know how to make a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy SE, Linksys WMP54g Wireless PCI (RT61 chipset) and a ATI Radeon 9550 work on a hackintosh? i have instailled the Radeon 9550 and 9600 ktexts on OS X but the graphics are stuck at 1024x768 problem is i have a 19" monitor with 1280x1024 resolution.
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Hackintosh: isn't that non-Apple hardware running an illegal Apple operating system?
You are obviously not aware that this is an Apple Hardware forum.
 
jbarley said:
Hackintosh: isn't that non-Apple hardware running an illegal Apple operating system?
You are obviously not aware that this is an Apple Hardware forum.
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The legality of Hackintoshes is a rather gray area. They are allowed to be discussed on MacRumors, the the Hackintoshes community here isn't very big.
 
jbarley said:
Hackintosh: isn't that non-Apple hardware running an illegal Apple operating system?
You are obviously not aware that this is an Apple Hardware forum.
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hey i cant even get the answers on InsainlyMac or the OSx86Project website and i have read alot on this site with Hackintosh systems seems people here know bout it plus the legality of running OS X on non apple hardware is a grey area only thing you are breaking is the EULA.

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Intell said:
The legality of Hackintoshes is a rather gray area. They are allowed to be discussed on MacRumors, the the Hackintoshes community here isn't very big.
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sorry if it seems i copied your post infact yours did not show up until after i posted mine.

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Goftrey said:
A Cube is a collectors item now really, they're very underpowered and overpriced if you're thinking of using it on a daily basis to do pretty heavy tasks and run Leopard.

Go with the $50 G5, or if that's gone, maybe look at some MDD's, IMO they have the best bang for buck.
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eh i decided i wont get a G5 my eMac is good enough and ill just Hackintosh my Linux box once i can either get help on here on getting my cards working or buying compatible ones.
 
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