No it isn't. iOS allows no multitasking and no customisation. Once you've spent any decent amount time with Android you realise how pathetically outdated iOS is with it's grid of icons interface.
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Camera Comparison: iPhone XS Max vs. Samsung Galaxy S10+
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No it isn't. iOS allows no multitasking and no customisation. Once you've spent any decent amount time with Android you realise how pathetically outdated iOS is with it's grid of icons interface.
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You lent them your phone to take the pictures? How jolly nice of you!
You really like your own pictures, don’t youMeanwhile, the undisputed champ of blurry imagery, my Nokia 8210, gets no comparison videos…
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I find a lot of my snapshots (family/travel/street) are done in low light. I also find the lack of phone camera setup speed a factor in missed shots as well.
I'm looking at the GR III to help out. With its very small size, APS-C sensor, great optics and custom setups will get me those shots I'm missing.
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/
I'm looking at the GR III to help out. With its very small size, APS-C sensor, great optics and custom setups will get me those shots I'm missing.
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/
Agreed. Why Macrumors did not use Raw Power with the iPhone is mystifying. Hiding behind the statement "straight from the camera" is disingenuous. They should have consulted their own Forum and asked how to do a proper comparison. Or better yet, collaborated with the guys at DPR. If the Samsung has a raw capability and an app then that should have been used for the comparison as well. This is the only way to truly compare the capabilities of the cameras. Processed jpg is generally speaking garbage. Jpg is really only useful for getting a representation of what you shot to check composition, focus and lighting. Moreover, you cannot do any serious post processing with jpg images. I realize for some people jpg is enough. But seriously, if you want to compare cameras you need to look at the capability of the enitre eco system and pick the components that generate the best photographic outcomes for the comparison.
Also, regarding the comments about low light. This is why there is still a market for full frame cameras. You get what you pay for. The physics and optics of a phone camera limit the light gathering capability to orders of magnitude less than a full frame camera. That is why low light is difficult for a phone camera. I appreciate the convenience of a phone camera and take advantage of that all the time. It is going to be a while though before a 2mm sensor can match the subjective capability of a 35mm full frame sensor. There is good news though. It is likely that the performance of the small sensors will continue to improve. Using Moore's Law, we can probably predict when the subjective cross over point will be. After that point in time, full frame sensors will still have better performance but that will be irrelevant. We are still a long long way from that point in time. Articles like this do not help us to understand how much we have closed the gap and how much farther we still have left to go.
Yikes, all the posts on the first page of people stating there is really not much difference or that they prefer photo A by a mile. Cringey to read! Look at the halo’ing effect on the sun in the clouds in the iPhone photos vs. the solid white outline of the sun with Samsung’s phone. Look at the brightness of the snow in Samsung’s photos vs. the cold blue-tinted look in the iPhone photos. Even look at the color temperature in the cup and desk photo - it’s much more natural in the warm tones rather than the cold tones used from the iPhone software. Yuck.
Tried watching the video but sorry the way we’re rating these photos is poor. As a photographer these phone cameras are poor, the exposure, White balance, auto focus and noise handling is not up to scratch. Especially as phones could easily find room to hold a sensor to compete with micro 4/3 systems these days. The only company pushing phone cameras right now is Huawei, friend has the Mate P20 Pro and the 40mp dear camera with all the controls blows these systems out of the water. The Huawei actually destroys the iPhone in ability and features and has me seriously considering a move if iOS13 and the next phones aren’t a monumental jump.
So much this. And it isn’t “taste”, the blue photos look unnatural, filtered and vintage almost. The Samsung’s photos are yes, warmer, but the highlights and shadows tend to be more natural and better algorithm’d and it shows. Crisper, warmer photos with brighter and less washed and blue’d out snow etc. Samsung is the clear winner I don’t know what the author of this article was thinking choosing A.
Agree it will be a very long time until I feel a phone can challenge my actual camera, but a 4/3 system could be challenged with the right effort. There are 10x optical zooms now and 40+ mp sensors.
I agree, Yuck. Taking all of the nit-picking details into account as I myself have been interested n photography since the Kodak Brownie, 3 out of the 5 iphone photos are better. You can pick the nits either way, but that is my subjective opinion. (edit: as far as photo #4 pick lens flare vs blown out highlights...your choice)
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Agreed. Starting with the composition of the first set of shots. They are obviously shot at different angles. The relative position of the gold android in background to the gold rim of the cup in the foreground is what made the rim of the cup disappear. If you look closely at the Samsung photo, the same jog artifact is there as well but because of the perspective, the jpg artifact doesn't eliminate as much of the photo.
Say what? I multitask regularly on my iOS devices (esp doing music on my iPad).
My Windows 10 desktop is also a grid of icons. Yet I’m pretty sure I can do far more than any Android (or iOS) device ever could.
Why is it that all comparison have to do with day-time photos and video and that determines which camera is better? Why aren't there any low-light or night-time photos in this comparison? I think that is probably where Samsung beats iPhone, but I would like to see a comparison.
I think this review process for the "which has the better camera" is a dirty comparison. You're not comparing cameras, you're comparing cameras + software. FACT is these cameras don't do depth of field. It's simulated-- through software. Therefore, it's not depth of field at all, but simply a blur to trick the masses. Ask any reasonably intelligent photographer, they will readily agree.
Other reviews I’ve seen say that low light is where the S10 lags the competition. Though I agree a full suite of pics under all conditions would have been nice. As would a test of the video quality.
You also have to turn off Apple's broken bokeh. Shame they spent all that time focussing on it with their funny adverts.
good point
maybe the readers/posters here need to move beyond jpegs, then the articles can move to focal lengths
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All of these comments are ridiculous to me.
The vast, overwhelming majority of people use the camera app on their phone, stock settings, and take photos as-is from there. This comparison lets the average user know which phone camera is going to produce results they like more and it honestly looks like kind of a wash, which is awesome for everyone.
If you want custom app RAW output reviews there are sites who do that for the people who would care, but all of that would mean nothing to a parent of mine who basically just wants to point and shoot and know they will be happy with the results.
Honestly all these comments just feel like a vehicle for photography elitists to lord over everyone that THEIR method of testing would be superior and it’s grating.
The overwhelmingly majority of the people do not post with regards to photography/jpeg outputs and are pleased with their phone cameras. I'm not posting to them. I'm posting to you and the others replying here about jpeg/heic outputs.
And why not shoot RAW? then custom preset the jpeg outputs "automatically" using software with settings tailored to your preferences. When unhappy with the jpeg output on those special pics (regardless of what camera brand you use), go back to the raw file and make it perfect. very easily.
Not elitist, just giving a solution to all those here complaining about jpeg outputs from phone cameras.
Thanks
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