Camping Out for the iPhone 4: The Line Starts Here

[tbobmccoy]

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"I do not work due to the fact I am disabled with a seizure disorder"

I dont mean to sound insensitive, but wow. Too disabled to work, but not so disabled that you can't setup a tent and camp out for a week in the Texas heat in June?

Neurological disabilities are oftentimes called unseen disabilities. I myself have multiple sclerosis and fortunately for me, it is not severe enough (yet) for me to not be able to work, but most people that look at me would have no idea that I have a disability.

 

[Consultant]

What, no 3g iPad? And you call yourself an Apple fan?

 

[gazzrenn]

Still going.....10 pages. At least he's got plenty to read.

 

[s502291]

Good for him. There was going to be a "first" person in line nationally anyways, and just because he doesnt work, you people rip him? I dont get it.

 

[doctor-don]

Oh look, it's the political correctness crowd.

Think logically about this for a second, how the hell can someone be so disabled that they physically can't work, yet they can manage to camp outside for a week in a city, in the heat, with the danger of all sorts of potentially dangerous people walking around outside at night?

I have a physical disability, I drag my ass around on crutches and yeah it's hard, but I don't use it as an excuse. In his case I can't think that it's anything but one.

Why are YOU bashing this guy with a seizure problem?

My concern would be that he is probably breaking a law or two by camping out on a public street.

And, a week prior to release? That's just ridiculous.

 

[tbobmccoy]

Wow... I just read the tip of the iceberg in the first page in terms of this man's disabled condition...apparently a lot of the readers have no idea how diverse disabilities can be. I hope for your sake that you never have to find out.

 

[doctor-don]

Arnold Kim, no known medical problems but 'cointune'?

 

[Shaych]

wow... just wow

Wow people... when was the last time anyone did something stupid and silly just for the hell of it?

It's a small adventure for the guy who is having fun doing it, so why does anyone care? If no one had reported one word about it, he probably would still be having fun doing it.

Some of you guys really need to find the fun in the simple and stupid things in life again.

 

[sishaw]

As if waiting for Beatles concert tickets on their first American tour is any different?

Yes, it is different. This is simply a consumer product, and there will be tens of millions produced, and everyone who wants one will get one. The Beatles were one of the greatest musical groups ever, and there were only limited tickets, and the Beatles had only a limited life as a touring group, so if one didn't line up, one simply would not ever get to see them.

If you can't perceive the difference, I feel bad for you.

 

[s502291]

Wow people... when was the last time anyone did something stupid and silly just for the hell of it?

It's a small adventure for the guy who is having fun doing it, so why does anyone care? If no one had reported one word about it, he probably would still be having fun doing it.

Some of you guys really need to find the fun in the simple and stupid things in life again.

Agreed. Doesnt sound like he was doing it for the press, he was doing it for self-enjoyment.

 

[zin]

Yes, as long as the government is taking from me, and redistributing my money to others who they deem in need, I have the right to question and know the facts.

And it says that he's collecting any sort of benefits from the government, where exactly?

 

[davidgrimm]

Your 15 minutes have officially started.

Hey, how can an unemployed guy afford an iPhone? Probably why he's unemployed, his callback for interview calls keep getting dropped...

 

[behrmon]

Wow, 11 pages and no "Wait, there's a new Iphone" post.

This thread sucks!

 

[davidgrimm]

And it says that he's collecting any sort of benefits from the government, where exactly?

Yeah, I forgot all those other agencies that give people money for not being able to work.

 

[Stately]

Why on earth are so many of you so insensitive? Did he tell you to sit out in the hot sun with him and share the little porta potty behind the Apple store and be a little fearful at night being the only two people out there? No. This is what the guy is choosing to do with his life at this time . . hold on, two seconds just passed . . . Did it change any of your lives that he's sitting out there? Didn't think so. The lack of compassion for each other has just gotten ridiculous. It may be a little eccentric, but just like someone pointed out, there are those who would do this and more for concert tickets. Not to mention, we have no clue to what extent his disability ranges, we don't even know if he has family close by coming to help out periodically. Stop judging people, sheesh. I challenge you al to take a look back at all the comments prior on this page, the negativity is unbelievable. I wouldn't want to share anything with this wave of posters. It's alright dude, you sit out there if you want. Live your life.

 

[Anonymouslives]

I can't believe the blatant idiocy of the forum users here. Unless you're the neurologist treating this patient, none of you are in a position to judge whether he "can or cannot" work. Furthermore, how many arrogant, ignorant people need to say the same exact thing, until it satisfies your need to judge someone else? "Loser, get a life, zomg camping one week early for a phone lol..lol", you people disgust me! None of you are in a position to judge anyone else and ALL of you who are judging this guy are fallible and have faults of your own that can and WILL be judged by others. Enjoy your failure, for YOU'RE the losers, YOU'RE the ones who need to "get a life"!

 

[Rafterman]

Agreed. As if being disabled is an excuse for something so silly. I can't believe we live in a world where camping out for a phone is supported.

It isn't a matter of whether we support it or not. Its his business and I have no opinion other than what I personally would do, so therefore I "support" his decision - the decision to do whatever the h3ll he wants.

The world would be a lot better off if people didn't spend so much time worrying about what others are doing and whether they should "support" it or not.

The phrase "its not my business" is too underutilized these days.

 

[cwg]

wow, I've been a reader of macrumors for years and finally felt compelled to register because... i'm truly shocked by the vitriol and judgment being thrown and this guy! how the mobs gather...

seriously shocking... all this on a site for MAC chat!

(I had always thought apple people were somehow more enlightened(?)... hmmm)

message to Justin: know that these comments here don't represent the majority... just have your fun and know that the anonymity of a web chatter can sometimes bring out the worst in people...

 

[kernkraft]

Get an iPod Touch and a job, for God's sake!

After reading the first couple pages of this thread, all I can say is: MacRumors, you disappoint me. People here are posting judgements about this guy based on a disability, not working for a week, and the picture posted of him.

You call him emo because of his picture? You ask how he can afford to pay his phone bill? You ask how he can camp when he is disabled? Seriously?

My god, I feel like I am back in Middle School. I am 22 years old, and none of my friends are this judgmental about people. Its disgusting. It doesn't take balls to sit behind a computer screen and pass judgement on someone you haven't ever met.

Haters in this thread, please grow up. Its really pathetic the way you are acting. Go back to Digg.

"Go back to Digg" - so much about being judgemental.

I don't think that anybody is attacking the guy because of his disability. There are two things that people feel strongly about:

1.) He hasn't got anything else to do or planned. There are so many other things in life - go to the park, go to the library, visit museums and see your friends/family. Build a freaking boat, set your fart on fire, learn a new software or language, get a bike and see your surroundings, get some voluntary work or just clean your place after you redecorated it. Record your own Jackass show, jump off buildings or read an effing book! You know what - read an effing cartoon, if you prefer.

Alternatively, sit on your ass whole day and play on your iPod Touch! The guy doesn't even need a cellphone, letting alone an iPhone with an expensive plan. This is pure gadget-addiction. He's only obsessed with things that are irrelevant in the end - first in line? Cameras on both sides? Come on!

Again, this has nothing to do with his disability.

2.) What has something to do with it is that if you have a disability or a condition, it is also your responsibility to make sure that you are not putting yourself into risk, in this case into the risk of having a seizure. Arguably, sitting outside in hot Texas (even worse, urban Dallas) for a week is a pretty risky move from somebody with a medical condition. If he's having a fit, I'll have no compassion to the man. You have to take responsibility to your actions. Generally speaking, even in the criminal law it is recognised that if you have a condition, that can be a mitigating factor or taken into account as a defence - UNLESS you make the decision of not taking your medication or putting yourself into a situation where your disability/condition is likely to limit your actions.

Some of us know people with disabilities or conditions. I know people with epilepsy and they work in decent jobs. Why? Because they prefer to be in control over their life, rather than living on payouts and feel sorry for themselves. I'd argue that some of us without any serious condition would not risk a day in the heat, letting alone camping outside a store in a hot and urban environment.

 

[nascimento]

As opposed to the "idiots" who spend every day reading through internet forums posting their opinions for the world to see as if it makes any difference in the grand scheme of things?

Since when are discussions/opinions useless? Maybe if people spent more time reading, discussing and emitting opinions they would not feel the need to spend their time lining up on the street waiting for a phone.

 

[brinycbri]

he's kinda cute

 

[tbobmccoy]

"Go back to Digg" - so much about being judgemental.

I don't think that anybody is attacking the guy because of his disability. There are two things that people feel strongly about:

1.) He hasn't got anything else to do or planned. There are so many other things in life - go to the park, go to the library, visit museums and see your friends/family. Build a freaking boat, set your fart on fire, learn a new software or language, get a bike and see your surroundings, get some voluntary work or just clean your place after you redecorated it. Record your own Jackass show, jump off buildings or read an effing book! You know what - read an effing cartoon, if you prefer.

Alternatively, sit on your ass whole day and play on your iPod Touch! The guy doesn't even need a cellphone, letting alone an iPhone with an expensive plan. This is pure gadget-addiction. He's only obsessed with things that are irrelevant in the end - first in line? Cameras on both sides? Come on!

Again, this has nothing to do with his disability.

2.) What has something to do with it is that if you have a disability or a condition, it is also your responsibility to make sure that you are not putting yourself into risk, in this case into the risk of having a seizure. Arguably, sitting outside in hot Texas (even worse, urban Dallas) for a week is a pretty risky move from somebody with a medical condition. If he's having a fit, I'll have no compassion to the man. You have to take responsibility to your actions. Generally speaking, even in the criminal law it is recognised that if you have a condition, that can be a mitigating factor or taken into account as a defence - UNLESS you make the decision of not taking your medication or putting yourself into a situation where your disability/condition is likely to limit your actions.

Some of us know people with disabilities or conditions. I know people with epilepsy and they work in decent jobs. Why? Because they prefer to be in control over their life, rather than living on payouts and feel sorry for themselves. I'd argue that some of us in a medical state that they would not risk a day in the heat, letting alone camping outside a store in a hot and urban environment.

How is "set your fart on fire" any more intelligent than waiting in line for an Apple product? What is wrong with you? Just leave the guy alone. If you want to, wish him well, but criticizing his life won't help anything at all. Weren't you people ever raised with the "Golden Rule"?

 

[uberamd]

Since when are discussions/opinions useless? Maybe if people spent more time reading, discussing and emitting opinions they would not feel the need to spend their time lining up on the street waiting for a phone.

What people do here is no more important or useful than what he is doing.

 

[Anonymouslives]

"Go back to Digg" - so much about being judgemental.

I don't think that anybody is attacking the guy because of his disability. There are two things that people feel strongly about:

1.) He hasn't got anything else to do or planned. There are so many other things in life - go to the park, go to the library, visit museums and see your friends/family. Build a freaking boat, set your fart on fire, learn a new software or language, get a bike and see your surroundings, get some voluntary work or just clean your place after you redecorated it. Record your own Jackass show, jump off buildings or read an effing book! You know what - read an effing cartoon, if you prefer.

Alternatively, sit on your ass whole day and play on your iPod Touch! The guy doesn't even need a cellphone, letting alone an iPhone with an expensive plan. This is pure gadget-addiction. He's only obsessed with things that are irrelevant in the end - first in line? Cameras on both sides? Come on!

Again, this has nothing to do with his disability.

2.) What has something to do with it is that if you have a disability or a condition, it is also your responsibility to make sure that you are not putting yourself into risk, in this case into the risk of having a seizure. Arguably, sitting outside in hot Texas (even worse, urban Dallas) for a week is a pretty risky move from somebody with a medical condition. If he's having a fit, I'll have no compassion to the man. You have to take responsibility to your actions. Generally speaking, even in the criminal law it is recognised that if you have a condition, that can be a mitigating factor or taken into account as a defence - UNLESS you make the decision of not taking your medication or putting yourself into a situation where your disability/condition is likely to limit your actions.

Some of us know people with disabilities or conditions. I know people with epilepsy and they work in decent jobs. Why? Because they prefer to be in control over their life, rather than living on payouts and feel sorry for themselves. I'd argue that some of us in a medical state that they would not risk a day in the heat, letting alone camping outside a store in a hot and urban environment.

1.) It's none of your concern the motivation or reasoning that has this guy camping out a week early for the phone. It's his life and you're in no position to judge him.


2.) There are SEVERAL different types of seizure disorders and SEVERAL types of triggers and symptom sets to go along with them. If you're not this guys personal neurologist, treating him and completely understanding his case, you have no clue what you're taking about and you should just shut it!

 

[skyehill]

Nope, I am critiquing what people have been saying. This guy said he was disabled and is camping and people are ripping into him making assumptions about his condition.

There is a major difference between me reading offensive things being said here and replying, and someone reading about a disabled guy camping and making fun of him without facts. If you don't understand that I feel sorry for you.

We're not reading about a disabled guy camping. That would be heartless. We're reading about a marginally "disabled" individual pitching a tent on a sidewalk a week in advance of a PHONE being released that he already has a pre-order for. That's just mock-worthy regardless of how many bleeding hearts like yourself say otherwise.