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Can we please remove the vote buttons?
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Don't worry. The "voting button" experiment only lasted about 2 years, so we should have an answer shortly.
"Guess what! You guys get a voting system! But you only get to vote for one thing."
That logic makes no sense. Removing the down-vote arrow is kind of stupid honestly. Just because it has a "negative" connotation to it doesn't make it bad. Sometimes posts need to be down voted. I don't mind the voting arrows at all (in fact, I like them), but leaving only an up-vote arrow completely ruins the benefits of having a voting system in the first place.
That logic makes no sense. Removing the down-vote arrow is kind of stupid honestly. Just because it has a "negative" connotation to it doesn't make it bad. Sometimes posts need to be down voted. I don't mind the voting arrows at all (in fact, I like them), but leaving only an up-vote arrow completely ruins the benefits of having a voting system in the first place.
Downvoting doesn't explain why you disagree with a post. Is the content not factual? Is there a better solution? Does the solution posted not work? Or do you just have some issue with the poster, that you're expressing by downvoting? An explanation is appropriate.
If this is true then it applies equally to the up-votes. Why did a particular post get an up-vote? I don't know, maybe someone just likes that guy.
I can live with having both buttons or having none. But I can see no rational reason for having just one.
Voting for any post, up or down, should be based on the merits of the post, and not the poster. You may dislike someone, but that doesn't mean that everything they post is wrong. Likewise, you may like someone, but that doesn't mean everything they post is right.
With that in mind, upvoting a post based on its merits requires no further explanation. Downvoting a post based on its merits does.
I agree that since not everyone votes based on a post's content, the vote buttons should be removed completely, which will force people to justify their position by communicating.
I don't understand this.
If I have to explain a down-vote why don't I have to explain an up-vote?
The same rule should apply to both.
what are we facebook? Bring back the down vote. I hated when facebook did away with dislike. Why do we have to be positive all the time? I agree with what the op is saying but it doesnt hurt anyone when that extreme case happens but its rare. for the most part people use the down vote to let people know if they are wrong.
If someone asks, "Is the RAM in the MacBook Pro - Retina soldered to the logic board?" and someone posts a reply, "Yes, it is.", if someone upvotes that post because they agree, it's equivalent to a "+1", which gives the OP some assurance that the response is not just someone's opinion, but fact. Nothing more needs to be said. If, however, that post is downvoted, the reason isn't evident. Would that mean that it's not soldered to the logic board? Or does it simply mean that the downvoter just doesn't like the poster who answered the question?
Wasn't this topic already discussed ? I believe it was. So now it's being discussed again with a new twist. Only an up vote .
I find myself scrolling through the posts that have zero votes and reading the ones that have an up vote .
I find myself scrolling through the posts that have zero votes and reading the ones that have an up vote .
Is this a move for the new "you can't fail" generation?
Any negativity is bad, you can't fail in school, you can't lose in soccer now, you get a trophy even if you're the worst team/player out there. You can't even get downvoted.
Please spare my feelings, It might put me in a depression and I'll have to go whine on Facebook so that my friends can "like" my self loathing posts.
Any negativity is bad, you can't fail in school, you can't lose in soccer now, you get a trophy even if you're the worst team/player out there. You can't even get downvoted.
Please spare my feelings, It might put me in a depression and I'll have to go whine on Facebook so that my friends can "like" my self loathing posts.
Fair enough. What's your reason?I am downvoting this comment (the new way).
I miss the ability to downvote people. As far as making the forum more negative as a whole, didn't particularly see that. There were a few times I saw people get into arguments about downvotes, but mostly in more extreme circumstances (say >25 downvotes).
Pretty much. Can't have you hurting anyone else's self-esteem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ
Because your logic is flawed. Neither need an explanation 100% of the time and both can require an explanation some of the time.
Up and down votes can be used for an infinite number of reasons and questions.
Reasons to up vote:
- Agree with comment.
- Comment is factually accurate.
- Agree with someones OPINION (i.e. Soldered ram is a bad idea).
- Comment is funny, witty, clever, etc.
Reasons to down vote:
- Disagree with comment.
- Comment is NOT factually accurate.
- Disagree with an OPINION.
- Comment is offensive.
- Comment is a troll.
- Fanboyism
I agree that both can require an explanation some of the time. I disagree that a downvote never needs an explanation.
Now, see how much more information was exchanged by you voicing your disagreement, rather than simply clicking a downvote button? That illustrates my point perfectly.
I also think we should have both up and down voting, or no voting at all. Yes, there are some abuses of down voting, where someone down votes a post simply because they disagree with the opinion in that post, but those are usually counterbalanced by people up voting posts they think have been unfairly down voted. As for posts accumuating extreme down votes, they are usually those that are seen as trolling or are extremely disorganized and incoherent -- posts that espouse an unpopular opinion but are not trolling and are coherent and well-stated generally accumulate very few down votes.
Incidentally, this very thread is an example of how having only up voting can skwer perception. I've up voted every post I agree with, but because no one can down vote those posts, people who disagree with them have no direct way of expressing their disagreement. Their only recourse is to post their disagreement in separate posts, then hope others up vote those posts. This strikes me as unfair -- so I think we should have votes in both directions, or no voting at all.
Incidentally, this very thread is an example of how having only up voting can skwer perception. I've up voted every post I agree with, but because no one can down vote those posts, people who disagree with them have no direct way of expressing their disagreement. Their only recourse is to post their disagreement in separate posts, then hope others up vote those posts. This strikes me as unfair -- so I think we should have votes in both directions, or no voting at all.
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