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Can we please remove the vote buttons?
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The changes to just allowing +1 are much better. It's now akin to a 'Like' on better forum systems (aka XenForo). There is simply no need for a downvote option.
Now all that needs to be done is a 1 line piece of code to check if you are voting for your own post, and not allow it.
Now all that needs to be done is a 1 line piece of code to check if you are voting for your own post, and not allow it.
Yes. And there is quite the discussion about it going on in the pages above this post.
This is genuine....I DIDN"T NOTICE until I read the thread...A great move though...Thanks arn....Shows how you can actually train your eyes to avoid the thing though!
I came to this thread because I noticed.
Based on something I saw on another forum, I could see the down-voting system made practical.
Instead of a -1 arrow, the voter would have to deal with a pop-up menu of reasons, like "Trollery", "Offensiveness", "Nonsense", etc. The selections would not be tallied but would be hilited if one were to click on the pop-up. At a threshold number of votes, a down-voted post would be collapsed in the thread, with an explanation (which reason caused its collapse) and a button allowing it to be expanded in place.
Instead of a -1 arrow, the voter would have to deal with a pop-up menu of reasons, like "Trollery", "Offensiveness", "Nonsense", etc. The selections would not be tallied but would be hilited if one were to click on the pop-up. At a threshold number of votes, a down-voted post would be collapsed in the thread, with an explanation (which reason caused its collapse) and a button allowing it to be expanded in place.
Generally speaking, it seems to me that proponents of keeping the downvote buttons are phrasing their discontent in terms of how it has affected them and their interaction with other people, whereas those advocating for and supporting the removal of the downvoting buttons are taking a wider view of the effect on the community and the quality of discussion.
Let me be clear, though. I never supported their introduction in the first place, noticed that the rationale for introducing them in the first place was never clearly explained, was suspicious of the potential implications that the voting data could be used in far more ways than just flagging content for the front page... and so after trying them out for a day or two, just stopped using them, ignoring them for the most part.
In all my years here: as forum member, contributor of many hundreds of dollars, and as moderator... there has never been a groundswell of public opinion clamouring for their introduction in the first place. Fundamentally, from the very start, the entire exercise has come across, to me at least, as a top-down initiative with a cloudy purpose and hoped-for outcomes that were never publicly specified.
Let me be clear, though. I never supported their introduction in the first place, noticed that the rationale for introducing them in the first place was never clearly explained, was suspicious of the potential implications that the voting data could be used in far more ways than just flagging content for the front page... and so after trying them out for a day or two, just stopped using them, ignoring them for the most part.
In all my years here: as forum member, contributor of many hundreds of dollars, and as moderator... there has never been a groundswell of public opinion clamouring for their introduction in the first place. Fundamentally, from the very start, the entire exercise has come across, to me at least, as a top-down initiative with a cloudy purpose and hoped-for outcomes that were never publicly specified.
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Weird. I came here thinking someone had revoked my down voting abilities...
I actually like it this way. As someone else said people are quick to down vote something, which often belittles the OP.
Except trolls. It's nice to have for trolls.
I actually like it this way. As someone else said people are quick to down vote something, which often belittles the OP.
Except trolls. It's nice to have for trolls.
Now every post is going to need a certain number of up votes to be taken seriously...the stupid posts stay at "0".
No, the damn up/down buttons prevent a lot of crap from being posted. Otherwise, an entire new post would have to be created to expose minor satisfaction or displeasure with a post.
But if we are to create a little garden to nurture easily swayed people (OMG! a minus means you HATE me! But now you get to TELL ME TO MY FACE! ), then so be it.
But if we are to create a little garden to nurture easily swayed people (OMG! a minus means you HATE me! But now you get to TELL ME TO MY FACE!
), then so be it.
So people would actually have to have a discussion (or simply ignore a post) if they want to express something negative? The horror.
Wait, isn't that the point of forums?
If someone disagreed with me, I'd much rather a short post explaining why then being left to wonder why I have a negative.
Closed for clean-up. Will be opened once off-topic posts have been removed.
EDIT: Done! Keep it on-topic now
EDIT: Done! Keep it on-topic now
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What if the reader is dumber than the poster? I saw that a lot more.
If a comment is dumb, you can reply. If it is offensive, report.
I realized there is no more downvote a few minutes ago, and instantly felt like this message board became a much more civil place.
Keeping only a vote up buttons is better. This way if someone suggests something as a solution and a lot of people vote it up then others will know they can trust this solution and that it's been tested by others. Just my 2 cents.
We collect data of your voting habits and sell it to the highest bidder. What else would we do? Haven't you noticed that ads you're seeing are chosen based on your votes?
An upvote button is a simple way for people to say "I agree" which is often all that needs to be said.
A downvote though doesn't say everything. It doesn't explain why you disagree and that's quite important. Now, people will be encouraged to explain why in a new post and then people can upvote that post in agreement.
A downvote though doesn't say everything. It doesn't explain why you disagree and that's quite important. Now, people will be encouraged to explain why in a new post and then people can upvote that post in agreement.
Sweet, I sent a message asking about removing the -button and had a response yesterday saying it'll happen soon, but they don't know when. It happened today
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