CANADA — iPhone X — Pre-Orders and Dispatch Thread

[fischersd]

USA will get the most, but we won't be 'sharing' with them. Apple allocates a certain percentage to each country and none of us know what those percentages are.

Are you sure about that? I'm thinking in North America for pre-orders it's first come, first served. The SKU that we're getting will be the same as what's being sold by T-Mobile and AT&T (the delta being that the Americans are forced to activate them with a Carrier contract, so it's SIM locked).

 

[LoveToMacRumors]

Are you sure about that? I'm thinking in North America for pre-orders it's first come, first served. The SKU that we're getting will be the same as what's being sold by T-Mobile and AT&T (the delta being that the Americans are forced to activate them with a Carrier contract, so it's SIM locked).

75% of stock for NA is probably going for US

 

[fischersd]

Yea, Canada demand should be lower than, UK, USA, many countries in Asia. I've never seen someone with Airpods yet, and even AW is rare, maybe seen once a month.

Heh....you don't think that's because how "dorky" AirPods look when you're wearing them? Yes, I have a pair. No, I don't wear them anywhere except maybe walking in the park. (love having them at home for conference calls though).
They're no good for me at the gym - I sweat too much - so I use my PowerBeats 2's at the gym.

A friend of mine that also has an Apple Watch also just upgraded to the AW3 (yesterday) - he said the staff at the Apple Store said it's insane how many Apple Watches they're selling right now. So, I'd expect to see a lot more of them out in the wild very soon!!!
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75% of stock for NA is probably going for US

That's just because of their population. It's luck of the draw. Our shipments come out of the US for the most part (either broken up in Alaska or their distribution centre in Tennessee).

They're still almost 10x our population....I'd expect the majority of the orders to be south of the border.

Edit: The only thing that should really be set should be the numbers that they're shipping to each store. I'm sure they have those ratio's locked in (it'll be based on store volumes - the busiest stores will get more allocation) - and that will likely vary based on the number of pre-orders they get tonight (but, they'll definitely have a minimum number they're allocating to the stores).

 

[haqsha23]

Are you sure about that? I'm thinking in North America for pre-orders it's first come, first served. The SKU that we're getting will be the same as what's being sold by T-Mobile and AT&T (the delta being that the Americans are forced to activate them with a Carrier contract, so it's SIM locked).

Oh i absolutely wouldn't know either way for sure. I would just think that under those circumstances (given how hungry the demand is in the US), there may be a scenario where Canadians get next to none at launch. You may be right though, i honestly have no idea how they distribute their product geographically.

 

[fischersd]

Oh i absolutely wouldn't know either way for sure. I would just think that under those circumstances (given how hungry the demand is in the US), there may be a scenario where Canadians get next to none at launch. You may be right though, i honestly have no idea how they distribute their product geographically.

Well, in recent times, it seems that it's first-come, first-served for device shipments (in North America at least). Regions that have different SKU's than the US have a tougher time of it. We've had threads with people comparing order times with shipping dates and it seems we're given the same priority as the Americans.

I think the iPhone is less popular up here due to what happened with BlackBerry and that BB went Android. I think that sent a lot of people Android's way (and I think a lot of people, mistakenly, blame Apple for the demise of BlackBerry).

 

[more fps]

Well, in recent times, it seems that it's first-come, first-served for device shipments (in North America at least). Regions that have different SKU's than the US have a tougher time of it. We've had threads with people comparing order times with shipping dates and it seems we're given the same priority as the Americans.

I think the iPhone is less popular up here due to what happened with BlackBerry and that BB went Android. I think that sent a lot of people Android's way (and I think a lot of people, mistakenly, blame Apple for the demise of BlackBerry).

I see much more iPhones users than Android, I don't think people care that much about bb. Many bb users I know switched to ios instead of Android. This might depend on regions also.

 

[haqsha23]

Well, in recent times, it seems that it's first-come, first-served for device shipments (in North America at least). Regions that have different SKU's than the US have a tougher time of it. We've had threads with people comparing order times with shipping dates and it seems we're given the same priority as the Americans.

I think the iPhone is less popular up here due to what happened with BlackBerry and that BB went Android. I think that sent a lot of people Android's way (and I think a lot of people, mistakenly, blame Apple for the demise of BlackBerry).

That would be great as we'll have access to the largest number of stock worldwide (by a significant margin). I've noticed that iPhone's are more popular among the older and younger generations, both of which i see having a hard time stomaching the cost of the phone and all that goes along with it. Remember, most smartphone plans in Canada start at $100 after tax nowadays, its insane. Luckily I'm on a business plan.

 

[fischersd]

I see much more iPhones users than Android, I don't think people care that much about bb. Many bb users I know switched to ios instead of Android. This might depend on regions also.

Heh....very true. Here in Waterloo, there's much more Android (and still a lot of people sporting BlackBerry devices...even though they haven't been made by them for a few years now).
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That would be great as we'll have access to the largest number of stock worldwide (by a significant margin). I've noticed that iPhone's are more popular among the older and younger generations, both of which i see having a hard time stomaching the cost of the phone and all that goes along with it. Remember, most smartphone plans in Canada start at $100 after tax nowadays, its insane. Luckily I'm on a business plan.

Yeah, I'm lucky I have a loyalty plan I squeezed out of Fido. Unfortunately, I can't light up the LTE side of my watch until Rogers enables eSIM provisioning on their network (next year it seems).

Rogers seems to be on a big anti-Apple kick lately - not launching the Apple Watch 3 and not launching the X on Fido.

 

[haqsha23]

Heh....very true. Here in Waterloo, there's much more Android (and still a lot of people sporting BlackBerry devices...even though they haven't been made by them for a few years now).
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Yeah, I'm lucky I have a loyalty plan I squeezed out of Fido. Unfortunately, I can't light up the LTE side of my watch until Rogers enables eSIM provisioning on their network (next year it seems).

Rogers seems to be on a big anti-Apple kick lately - not launching the Apple Watch 3 and not launching the X on Fido.

Rogers executives have often said that they don't like having to discount iphones as part of only a 2 year contract. The other phones are given to Rogers on way better pricing terms whereby they make a ton more money off of it.

 

[fischersd]

I wish the carriers would let Apple bring the iPhone Upgrade Program to Canada. That would take the sting out of our exchange rates for a lot of people.

(Eg. iPhone X 64GB with Apple Care+ and HST is $1772 - but that's only $74 a month on IUP)

 

[haqsha23]

I wish the carriers would let Apple bring the iPhone Upgrade Program to Canada. That would take the sting out of our exchange rates for a lot of people.

As long as the oligopoly continues to exist, that is a pipe dream that's never going to happen.

 

[LoveToMacRumors]

I wish the carriers would let Apple bring the iPhone Upgrade Program to Canada. That would take the sting out of our exchange rates for a lot of people.

(Eg. iPhone X 64GB with Apple Care+ and HST is $1772 - but that's only $74 a month on IUP)

Only $1772? It's $1804 for me . . .

 

[fischersd]

Only $1772? It's $1804 for me . . .

Ah, you're getting the 256, but not getting AC+.

I'm going to run it naked....so pretty much have to get AC+

Be the first time since my 3Gs days that I'll not have a case on my iPhone.

Edit: A little concerned over the 64GB of space though. I heard one minute of 4k video on the 8+ takes 1.5GB. That's going to limit a lot of people's ability to enjoy the capabilities of this camera for video with the smaller storage footprint.

 

[LoveToMacRumors]

Ah, you're getting the 256, but not getting AC+.

I'm going to run it naked....so pretty much have to get AC+

Be the first time since my 3Gs days that I'll not have a case on my iPhone.

No I'm getting the 64GB with AC+ , it's just the f tax, we have 15%

 

[iSayBoourns]

Yea, Canada demand should be lower than, UK, USA, many countries in Asia. I've never seen someone with Airpods yet, and even AW is rare, maybe seen once a month.

I see people with AirPods on a nearly daily basis in Alberta. Lots of AW’s too.

 

[fischersd]

No I'm getting the 64GB with AC+ , it's just the f tax, we have 15%

Wow! I didn't realize that the HST wasn't standardized across the board. That's just nasty!!

If stock of this phone wasn't a problem, I was going to wait and do a road trip to Delaware (one of the states with no sales tax). Between the premium that Apple charges for exchange and the lack of sales tax, I was looking at a 20% savings when our dollar was 80 cents.

But, I don't think there's going to be stock of these until the spring by the sounds of things.

 

[haqsha23]

Ah, you're getting the 256, but not getting AC+.

I'm going to run it naked....so pretty much have to get AC+

Be the first time since my 3Gs days that I'll not have a case on my iPhone.

Edit: A little concerned over the 64GB of space though. I heard one minute of 4k video on the 8+ takes 1.5GB. That's going to limit a lot of people's ability to enjoy the capabilities of this camera for video with the smaller storage footprint.

I would love to keep the phone naked but I'm completely OCD and hate even the most minimal hairline scratches on my devices. Also I would like to save the money on applecare as i plan to sell the phone in August, so case it is for me.

Regarding the space, it is completely individual-dependent. I barely use any storage on my 16GB as is right now (still have 8GB open space), so 64 for me is good enough. If I start taking a lot of videos I'll just transfer them to my hard drive or put them in a cloud and delete them from the phone.
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Wow! I didn't realize that the HST wasn't standardized across the board. That's just nasty!!

If stock of this phone wasn't a problem, I was going to wait and do a road trip to Delaware (one of the states with no sales tax). Between the premium that Apple charges for exchange and the lack of sales tax, I was looking at a 20% savings when our dollar was 80 cents.

But, I don't think there's going to be stock of these until the spring by the sounds of things.

No, HST is for Ontario. Harmonized sales tax is the combination of the federal tax rate (5%) along with the applicable provincial tax rate (which in Ontario is 8%). Lovetomacrumor's province must have a 10% provincial tax rate.

 

[iSayBoourns]

Ah, you're getting the 256, but not getting AC+.

I'm going to run it naked....so pretty much have to get AC+

Be the first time since my 3Gs days that I'll not have a case on my iPhone.

Edit: A little concerned over the 64GB of space though. I heard one minute of 4k video on the 8+ takes 1.5GB. That's going to limit a lot of people's ability to enjoy the capabilities of this camera for video with the smaller storage footprint.

An hour is about 10,200mb (pretty much 10gb) of 4K 30 (according to what it tells me what 1 min equals on my 7+) So 4K 60 should be a considerable increase from there.

If 4K is of interest, then 64gb would not really suffice.

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I wish the carriers would let Apple bring the iPhone Upgrade Program to Canada. That would take the sting out of our exchange rates for a lot of people.

(Eg. iPhone X 64GB with Apple Care+ and HST is $1772 - but that's only $74 a month on IUP)

I could see Canada getting the IUP program finally in 2018. Since carriers will no longer be allowed to lock devices.

 

[fischersd]

I would love to keep the phone naked but I'm completely OCD and hate even the most minimal hairline scratches on my devices. Also I would like to save the money on applecare as i plan to sell the phone in August, so case it is for me.

Regarding the space, it is completely individual-dependent. I barely use any storage on my 16GB as is right now (still have 8GB open space), so 64 for me is good enough. If I start taking a lot of videos I'll just transfer them to my hard drive or put them in a cloud and delete them from the phone.
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No, HST is for Ontario. Harmonized sales tax is the combination of the federal tax rate (5%) along with the applicable provincial tax rate (which in Ontario is 8%). Lovetomacrumor's province must have a 10% provincial tax rate.

I've liked the smaller phones (had a 5s for the longest time) - didn't know what Apple was going to do for the SE, so I finally caved and got a 6s. But, I've really resented Apple putting the better camera in the + sized phone. I don't want a damn iPhad!!! GRRR!!!

With the X, I plan on being much more of a shutterbug again. Used to be a lot more into photography, the convenience of having a great camera in your phone will be pretty awesome again.

As for the HST...yes, I know what it stands for....and what the intent was....but I was under the impression that rates were being standardized as a compromise (to boost the economy of provinces that previously had higher rates).
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An hour is about 10,200mb (pretty much 10gb) of 4K 30 (according to what it tells me what 1 min equals on my 7+) So 4K 60 should be a considerable increase from there.

If 4K is of interest, then 64gb would not really suffice.
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I could see Canada getting the IUP program finally in 2018. Since carriers will no longer be allowed to lock devices.

Well, it's not just the FPS, it's also the bitrate used for the encoding. Pretty sure these support H.265 encoding, so that should help immensely. I guess it would be somewhat ironic if Apple did use a high bitrate for their iPhone video encoding, considering how low their iTunes bitrates are.

I am really surprised that Apple hasn't pushed the IUP out globally....it would make a massive difference in their market share.

 

[profets]

FWIW regarding recording at 4K - the iPhone 8 shows 1 minute of video at 4K60 to be 400MB.

 

[LoveToMacRumors]

An hour is about 10,200mb (pretty much 10gb) of 4K 30 (according to what it tells me what 1 min equals on my 7+) So 4K 60 should be a considerable increase from there.

If 4K is of interest, then 64gb would not really suffice.
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I could see Canada getting the IUP program finally in 2018. Since carriers will no longer be allowed to lock devices.

256gb would cost me over $2000 that is a barrier i do not wish to go past

 

[fischersd]

FWIW regarding recording at 4K - the iPhone 8 shows 1 minute of video at 4K60 to be 400MB.

Thanks! Found an article on it - same value you've given.

A quote from the article on iMore: "In fact, 60FPS 4K is such a space hog that Apple won't let you shoot in it without turning on HEVC to save your storage."

The full article if anyone wants to peruse: https://www.imore.com/how-shoot-trim-edit-and-share-4k-video-iphone

So, I don't quite understand why someone posted that 4k on the 8+ took 1.5GB for 1 minute. That's obviously not true!! (and now I'm breathing a huge sigh of relief on my choice to get a 64GB)

 

[iSayBoourns]

FWIW regarding recording at 4K - the iPhone 8 shows 1 minute of video at 4K60 to be 400MB.

So roughly 24gb per hour
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256gb would cost me over $2000 that is a barrier i do not wish to go past

In Alberta I’ll be able to get (with trade ins included) two 256gb iPhone X’s for less than the full cost of a 64gb iPhone X.

That’s with a 2 year contract. Not everyone is willing to sign up for those though. Personally doesn’t bother me, because I’m paying for cell service anyways. Might as well pay less upfront on the phones.

 

[fischersd]

So roughly 24gb per hour
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In Alberta I’ll be able to get (with trade ins included) two 256gb iPhone X’s for less than the full cost of a 64gb iPhone X.

That’s with a 2 year contract. Not everyone is willing to sign up for those though. Personally doesn’t bother me, because I’m paying for cell service anyways. Might as well pay less upfront on the phones.

You guys get WAY better pricing on cell plans out there though (if Alberta's anything like Saskatchewan and Manitoba).

Those of us here with really good plans have to hold onto them for dear life (the carriers are always trying to get you to make a change and "Whoops, your plan isn't offered anymore" Sneaky bastages.

 

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I might get 256 GB Space Grey